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Let technology go, or choke it back?
The Shop
period
Promoter says "but it aint what the fans want to see!!!!" Bullshit, its the same fans and their offspring for the last 100 yrs. Trying to draw in nascar fans and monster truck fans with huge jumps is 1% effective so give up on it already. People want to see a damn race for once! Better you are in the points the worse gate pick you get, keep em on the ground more so they can pass. Same ole circus show has as many tuning out as there are newbies tuning in.
Less CC's, lighter bikes.
9.5/10 the 250cc class trumps the 450s for action and interest. Not enough parity in lap times between 250s and 450s either, especially in SX where a 250 can and has matched or beat 450 lap times, which says something.
When you put in obstacles so difficult that only a few can do them, you either have the same guys winning or wannabees getting career ending injuries. Worse part it does not make for more exciting racing.
Restrictor plates in my mind make more sense than high dollar, high rpm, short fuse smaller engines.
The production rule is a farce, the GP bikes don't go one bit faster with "works" stuff.
Pit Row
There's quite a bit of feedback on the last 2 pages of this thread where I posted the following:
http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/ALTA-at-A1,1327270
Look!
Every freaking motor sport on the planet manages the overall speed of the vehicles as technology evolves.
When the top speeds start reaching a threshold, Indy lowers the maximum displacement. I believe Nascar does as well.
It allows the manufacturers to continue to innovate and compete on a level playing field while managing the risk to the athletes.
Let's face the truth. A crash at 50 mph is going to do more damage than a crash at 38 mph (for example).
In MX we've done the exact freaking opposite! As technology, HP, and top speeds increased on 125 and 250 2 strokes, we brought in 4 strokes and freaking increased the max displacement and maximum speed. Why? Where does it stop? When SX bikes go 0-100 in 4 seconds?
Now, electric bikes are coming in and some people are saying to let them go as fast as they want. Don't limit them.
I'm saying Hell No! Not even faster!
It's time for us to manage the overall speed of MX for the exact same reasons Indy and Nascar do it.
The 125 and 250 (and 80cc) 2 strokes should be the standard at this point in time to adjust ANY bike that is going to be approved to race, regardless of the engine, or motor type. I don't care if you race a bike running on nuclear power or fuel cells, they each need to have maximum specs, and be managed by the controlling bodies.
If at some point 2 stroke technology advances, 125 and 250 may need to be lowered as well (but not at this point).
I've proposed how to manage the speed, lower maximum displacement for 4T's and bring back 2T's into competition a few times already in a manner that is great for manufacturers, after market companies, and riders. I won't go into the details again unless asked, but it can and should be done, and phased in over a few years.
As for the electric bikes today, we cannot increase speeds beyond where they are now. There must be maximum specs that reasonably keep them at or below the current speed of the 250 and 450 classes.
We cannot allow what happened when 4 strokes entered MX and SX again. Speeds must not increase or more riders will have more serious injuries.
Again, it's not about whether a rider can handle a more powerful bike. It's that when crashes occur, it's simple physics that the faster the speed, the more intense the injury. We've reached a threshold that we have no business crossing.
That's my $.02, though it's probably worth more like a buck.
Radical
Nuff said!
The 450 is supposed to be the premiere class? Why? 250s do the exact same things on the track. I personally like watching 250s more because there are usually better battles.
If Roczen, Tomac and the rest were on 250s it would be just as exciting.
IF tracks had 100mph straights with 200' jumps and a rythym lane right after that if you timed it incorrectly you would possibly die, yea, that would be "too dangerous".
I can't for the life of me understand this fascination with detuning the bikes. I would like to see works bikes come back.
An exhaust restrictor plate at the outlet is simple to install, test, inspect and verify. Not to mention quieter.
It gets tougher with electrics for sure.
Lap times are another simple method to separate classes.
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