Should Eli race MXGP 2020

He should do what he wants. And i'm 99% certain that he wants to race SX and US nationals since he can live in his own country and he can make more money.

With that said, i would love to see him race a season or two in the GPs.

Would I like to see it? Yes.

Will it happen? No.

DeStouwer wrote:

Would I like to see it? Yes.

Will it happen? No.

DeStouwer wrote:

Would I like to see it? Yes.

Will it happen? No.

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No.

He will make a long career, he is like good wine but he will not move from the USA imo.

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

Man it's a pipe dream but I honestly wish he would go this year. As a fan, watching our best guy win the same old series again feels almost empty. Ideally it would be perfect to have indoor supercross here in the US over the Winter, and then a smaller USA national series on the off weekends of a shortened MXGP season. I can't think of another sport that has two separate series that both consider themselves the top series. It seems counterproductive for the sports growth. Let's figure out a way for these guys to compete against each other without costing them any money. 12 supercross and 12 MXGPs? With 4-6 US Nationals on off weekends?

As much as I dream of a full MXGP series with Tomac and Herling going at it I also think it would be a stupid decision for Tomac to do so. He makes a tone of cash racing in the US and gets to live the way he appears he wants too. Thats not to say I don't believe he would be competitive in Europe if he committed 100%.

No.

By 2020, Eli is going to be kicking back looking at the equivalent of the snowcapped Alps in his back yard shooting deer and elk and barbequeing some chow and counting money.
Because of this, I got a lot of respect for guys like Cairoli who dont need to do this shit anymore.

Mxgp isnt the next step after sx?? Lol dude sx IS the top. Eli will stay here where he makes more money.

kb228 wrote:

Mxgp isnt the next step after sx?? Lol dude sx IS the top. Eli will stay here where he makes more money.

kb228 wrote:

Mxgp isnt the next step after sx?? Lol dude sx IS the top. Eli will stay here where he makes more money.

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Maybe he should try to win a SX title first.... and I'm sure he doesn't want his ass kicked every other week by Herlings, so he better stay in the US.

I'd like to see him race the last couple of GP's and MXoN in 2019 first.

How many of you would shell out the $150 for the MXGP TV pass if he were to do it? Money would be the only reason for him to go over there. Spare me the " No, he would so he could prove he's faster!" Eli has a 10-12 year window to make enough money to last him the rest of his days. Living overseas away from home racing a 7 month series would need to make cents

Moto96 wrote:

No.

By 2020, Eli is going to be kicking back looking at the equivalent of the snowcapped Alps in his back yard shooting deer ...more

Moto96 wrote:

No.

By 2020, Eli is going to be kicking back looking at the equivalent of the snowcapped Alps in his back yard shooting deer and elk and barbequeing some chow and counting money.
Because of this, I got a lot of respect for guys like Cairoli who dont need to do this shit anymore.

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So what you're saying is that 2019 will be Eli's last year? Don't think so.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

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Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

That’s where the best are. Depends if he wants to be considered one of the best or not.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

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DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

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2020 when Tomac goes over to Europe? Like an exchange program

crusty_xx wrote:

No.

crusty_xx wrote:

No.

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Why ?

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

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DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

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X2. Herlings needs to race sx. Prove himself in both. Tomac has.

chadder44 wrote:

Man it's a pipe dream but I honestly wish he would go this year. As a fan, watching our best guy win the same old series again ...more

chadder44 wrote:

Man it's a pipe dream but I honestly wish he would go this year. As a fan, watching our best guy win the same old series again feels almost empty. Ideally it would be perfect to have indoor supercross here in the US over the Winter, and then a smaller USA national series on the off weekends of a shortened MXGP season. I can't think of another sport that has two separate series that both consider themselves the top series. It seems counterproductive for the sports growth. Let's figure out a way for these guys to compete against each other without costing them any money. 12 supercross and 12 MXGPs? With 4-6 US Nationals on off weekends?

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What about boxing? There are at least more than 10 championships that call themselves worldchampionships and the top series in boxing.
And no , i'm not talking about the different weight divisions.

dutch_rider wrote:

What about boxing? There are at least more than 10 championships that call themselves worldchampionships and the top series in ...more

dutch_rider wrote:

What about boxing? There are at least more than 10 championships that call themselves worldchampionships and the top series in boxing.
And no , i'm not talking about the different weight divisions.

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Basketball, Hockey, Baseball... etc... etc.

Not that I am against AMA vs GP for a couple races but we can co-exist and the bragging rights of who is best outside can go back and forth.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

If he's not going to, I never wanna read anymore of this "FMOTP" bollox.

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DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

DailyMotoMedia wrote:

Likewise for Herlings then. Come do the full series here, US SX & MX. Then he can call himself FMOTP

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It's very peculiar to suggest that a world champion needs to win titles in a particular nation to prove himself. It takes a special kind of hubris to make such a suggestion.

Moto96 wrote:

No.

By 2020, Eli is going to be kicking back looking at the equivalent of the snowcapped Alps in his back yard shooting deer ...more

Moto96 wrote:

No.

By 2020, Eli is going to be kicking back looking at the equivalent of the snowcapped Alps in his back yard shooting deer and elk and barbequeing some chow and counting money.
Because of this, I got a lot of respect for guys like Cairoli who dont need to do this shit anymore.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:

So what you're saying is that 2019 will be Eli's last year? Don't think so.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

So what you're saying is that 2019 will be Eli's last year? Don't think so.

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It could be 2025. RV wouldnt have either if he didnt need to finish out a contract.

I believe Eli signed a 2 year extension last year. Maybe some money gets ponied up to bring him over for the 2021 series. If any company wants to get a race win in the near future this would probably be the best option.

I just think its a shame so many of you guys put so much focus on money.

An SX champ or MXGP champ will both be paid very well anyway.

Herlings will go down History as the best MX rider in the world at a given time. He's earned that. To me that is priceless,
one day when he's very old he will still be remembered for his world dominance. He will tell his grand kids so many amazing stories.

People remember, value & respect achievements, that's what stands the test of time. Not how much revenue you made.

Right now there is an opportunity of a elite US rider to earn that title, go down in history as an undisputed worlds best rider. How they can think riding comedy events where people pull over for cash bonuses comes anywhere near the legacy a world champion leaves is totally beyond me.

If you wanna be the best in the world, you have to race nowadays MXGP. Otherwise you are just a national champ, or blind, or stupid, if you consider yourself a best in the world How many national champs we have in MXGP? US national champ just one of them.That's it
Did you ever learned something from the last seven years from MXDN?
End of discussion.

While I respect Keinz's post and opinion, I think it illustrates a common misconception. Lots of MXGP fans consider the World Championships the highest level playing field on the planet, and more importantly, the AMA Nationals like any other national championship series.
Although it could be reasonably argued today that MXGP is the top series, it has not been the case for many, many years beforehand. The AMA Nationals were once (and will be again, I believe,) the hottest crucible of competition in the world. This is why we won so many MXDNs and why the best Europeans came here to race. There was the "World Champion," and then the "true" champion: the AMA National Champ.
That scenario is clearly not the case anymore, but even today any top-10 AMA rider would likely be considered a top contender - if not a sure thing - for the championship in any other country. It would be the same as if a top MXGP guy decided to race the British Nationals, Canadian Nationals or the German Nationals.
My point is that you cannot equate "AMA National Champion" with any other national series title. It is more on the same level as MXGP. Diminished in 2018 for sure, but still far above any other national series.

Anyone else's screen showing this??

Falcon wrote:

While I respect Keinz's post and opinion, I think it illustrates a common misconception. Lots of MXGP fans consider the World ...more

Falcon wrote:

While I respect Keinz's post and opinion, I think it illustrates a common misconception. Lots of MXGP fans consider the World Championships the highest level playing field on the planet, and more importantly, the AMA Nationals like any other national championship series.
Although it could be reasonably argued today that MXGP is the top series, it has not been the case for many, many years beforehand. The AMA Nationals were once (and will be again, I believe,) the hottest crucible of competition in the world. This is why we won so many MXDNs and why the best Europeans came here to race. There was the "World Champion," and then the "true" champion: the AMA National Champ.
That scenario is clearly not the case anymore, but even today any top-10 AMA rider would likely be considered a top contender - if not a sure thing - for the championship in any other country. It would be the same as if a top MXGP guy decided to race the British Nationals, Canadian Nationals or the German Nationals.
My point is that you cannot equate "AMA National Champion" with any other national series title. It is more on the same level as MXGP. Diminished in 2018 for sure, but still far above any other national series.

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You shouldn't have even had to type that. If these guys want to play it that way, it will come back to haunt them.

It's getting old.

I still chuckle at the "world" title when so many of our "national" guys have beaten them. It goes back and forth, both are amazing series. I am just happy the coverage for all 3 seems to be getting better year after year.