Savatgy on JGR/Suzuki?

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11/21/2019 8:14 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/21/2019 8:15 AM

Just getting some speculative opinions on how you think Joey will do in the 2020 Supercross season aboard the JGR Suzuki.

He looked seriously uncomfortable during the overseas events, although to his credit...he probably hadn't had much time on the bike, and it was basically bone stock from what Weege said. It looked like he was a click away from crashing out in the whoops each time he headed into them.

I hope he does well enough to rub Kawasaki's nose in it, frankly...but, how do you think he'll do in such a stacked 450 class this coming season?

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11/21/2019 8:19 AM

I don’t see him winning any mains but is very capable of top 5’s.

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11/21/2019 8:20 AM

Not good.

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11/21/2019 8:20 AM

Maybe a podium but I say top 10 guy most races. This year is STACKED

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11/21/2019 8:24 AM

top 5 guy. fields stacked now but injuries will take out a few. If he's healthy he'll be in the mix.

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11/21/2019 8:29 AM

I have him in the 8th - 11th range in terms of speed, But I think injuries and his consistent starts will push him a few slots higher.

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11/21/2019 9:26 AM

Considering the fact that he is one of the riders that makes that field “ STACKED “ I’d say he will do just fine.

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11/21/2019 9:50 AM

Did you see AC at mec?

They are happy with their decision and long term investment.

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11/21/2019 9:56 AM

Excaliburbmx wrote:

Did you see AC at mec?

They are happy with their decision and long term investment.

This.

I honestly doubt there will be any noses rubbed at Kawi by bringing on AC and letting Savatgy go. AC's future, potential and charisma is 10x.

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11/21/2019 9:56 AM

davistld01 wrote:

Just getting some speculative opinions on how you think Joey will do in the 2020 Supercross season aboard the JGR Suzuki.

He looked seriously uncomfortable during the overseas events, although to his credit...he probably hadn't had much time on the bike, and it was basically bone stock from what Weege said. It looked like he was a click away from crashing out in the whoops each time he headed into them.

I hope he does well enough to rub Kawasaki's nose in it, frankly...but, how do you think he'll do in such a stacked 450 class this coming season?

Rub their nose in what. He signed a 1 year deal. He knew the situation.

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11/21/2019 10:04 AM

I agree that Joeys bike looked unsettled in these last few races he has done.
I hope he puts his nose down and tests tests tests to find a good base setting because if he sticks with this setup it won’t end well.

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11/21/2019 10:05 AM

7-12 no matter what he is riding. Just rember the people that said he would beat AC.

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11/21/2019 10:43 AM

How short our memory’s are

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

11/21/2019 11:26 AM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

How short our memory’s are

I think there's a huge difference in confidence being in the Monster Kawasaki rig vs the solo rider on JGR. Kawasaki is one of the best teams in the sport and he was able to sit and watch tape with the fastest rider on the track. There's going to be a lot of pressure on Joey since he's the lone JGR 450 rider and it'll be interesting to see if he rises to the occasion or makes mistakes like he did in 250s. I think he struggles this year considering the state Suzuki is in at the moment.

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11/21/2019 11:29 AM

Likely 6 wins and 2020 champion.whistling

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Did i do that?

11/21/2019 11:31 AM

davistld01 wrote:

Just getting some speculative opinions on how you think Joey will do in the 2020 Supercross season aboard the JGR Suzuki.

He looked seriously uncomfortable during the overseas events, although to his credit...he probably hadn't had much time on the bike, and it was basically bone stock from what Weege said. It looked like he was a click away from crashing out in the whoops each time he headed into them.

I hope he does well enough to rub Kawasaki's nose in it, frankly...but, how do you think he'll do in such a stacked 450 class this coming season?

mxb2 wrote:

Rub their nose in what. He signed a 1 year deal. He knew the situation.

That doesn't mean he can't make them regret getting rid of him.

Im sure if he comes out and wins both championships, Kawasaki won't be saying "ya know what, we're so glad we got rid of Joey.."

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11/21/2019 12:25 PM

davistld01 wrote:

Just getting some speculative opinions on how you think Joey will do in the 2020 Supercross season aboard the JGR Suzuki.

He looked seriously uncomfortable during the overseas events, although to his credit...he probably hadn't had much time on the bike, and it was basically bone stock from what Weege said. It looked like he was a click away from crashing out in the whoops each time he headed into them.

I hope he does well enough to rub Kawasaki's nose in it, frankly...but, how do you think he'll do in such a stacked 450 class this coming season?

mxb2 wrote:

Rub their nose in what. He signed a 1 year deal. He knew the situation.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

That doesn't mean he can't make them regret getting rid of him.

Im sure if he comes out and wins both championships, Kawasaki won't be saying "ya know what, we're so glad we got rid of Joey.."

Ok but that won’t happen.

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11/21/2019 12:29 PM

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

That doesn't mean he can't make them regret getting rid of him.

Im sure if he comes out and wins both championships, Kawasaki won't be saying "ya know what, we're so glad we got rid of Joey.."

I am sure if I win both championships they will be pissed they did not answer my emails too. But come on now.... I mean Joey is a badass but I don't think anyone expects Joey to beat AC.

As to the OP. I see him in that 5-10 for sure. But that top 5 is awefully crowded....

Webb
Roczen
Tomac
Anderson
Musquin
AC
Barcia
Stewart
Brayton
Osborne

shit...i mean ten!!!! smile

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11/21/2019 12:43 PM

I don't know that Kawasaki "got rid of him". He was hired to ride the bike for a year while they waited for their protégée to advance to the 450s. If he had set the world on fire with his performance it might have been different.

I don't put much on off season races on a stock bike. 4 or 5 races into the season are a better indicator.

I don't think JGR is the best set up for a guy like JS, but it really was his only option. Due to the circumstances with riders and money, JGR is way behind on development of the current RMZ450. JGR's suspension guy left to start his own business and I don't know that he was really that good to begin with. I don't believe they have a strong database of supercross information on the current Suzuki. They don't have a have an experienced test rider to help develop the bike. The Suzuki factory has no racing department or other race teams to help provide information. Also JS won't have a teammate to help the testing. We will find out how good of a test rider JS is and how good the JGR team is. I don't know if he is the type of rider that can win on bike that is not 100%. I hope he proves everyone wrong and does well.

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11/21/2019 12:46 PM

Excaliburbmx wrote:

Did you see AC at mec?

They are happy with their decision and long term investment.

Long term? AC has one year on his contract, doesn’t seem long term to me.

Unless they are willing to shell out serious clams, he’ll be riding a different bike in 2021.

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11/21/2019 12:49 PM

Hard to say. Recent podcasts would suggest he whines a lot and is far too worried about "showing people they were wrong". This could work to his favor, but not likely especially with his history of choking.

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11/21/2019 12:51 PM

Hopefully he’ll make all the mains

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11/21/2019 1:54 PM

UpTiTe wrote:

Long term? AC has one year on his contract, doesn’t seem long term to me.

Unless they are willing to shell out serious clams, he’ll be riding a different bike in 2021.

Really? Hadn't heard that one. Care to elaborate?

Who is he going to? I thought Honda was set with Sexton and Roczen. You think Yamaha are going to put up the big coin to get him?

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11/21/2019 2:10 PM

Joey is getting all the the bugs our by doing these pre season races.
Joey only needs to find that little bit extra to be up with top few guys on a more regular basis.

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11/21/2019 2:44 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/21/2019 2:45 PM

I encourage everyone to go listen to the latest RacerX podcast with Joey, it just got put up today. It’s a good listen and makes me respect Joey allot more too.

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11/21/2019 3:55 PM

mxb2 wrote:

Rub their nose in what. He signed a 1 year deal. He knew the situation.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

That doesn't mean he can't make them regret getting rid of him.

Im sure if he comes out and wins both championships, Kawasaki won't be saying "ya know what, we're so glad we got rid of Joey.."

Kevin852 wrote:

I am sure if I win both championships they will be pissed they did not answer my emails too. But come on now.... I mean Joey is a badass but I don't think anyone expects Joey to beat AC.

As to the OP. I see him in that 5-10 for sure. But that top 5 is awefully crowded....

Webb
Roczen
Tomac
Anderson
Musquin
AC
Barcia
Stewart
Brayton
Osborne

shit...i mean ten!!!! smile

he was already beating half that list last year. and no buddy expected webb to win last year, thats why they actually line up and race. joey has shown he has the ability to race with the best in the sport. give the guy some respect

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11/21/2019 4:10 PM

I don’t think he’s been seen on a JGR bike at race...

Yet.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

11/21/2019 4:14 PM

TeamGreen wrote:

I don’t think he’s been seen on a JGR bike at race...

Yet.

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11/21/2019 4:19 PM

He looked good in paris i thought . Terrible in NZ . Neither of which he was riding a JGR bike . So the thread is a bit unfair to JGR . Which is the usual around here .

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11/21/2019 4:21 PM

TeamGreen wrote:

I don’t think he’s been seen on a JGR bike at race...

Yet.

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Your saying thats a full on JGR bike ? Looks like a stock one with a pipe and suspension to me

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