Savatgy?

Tarz483
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5/11/2018 5:11pm
I just listened to the pulp show with
AC and when they where talking about
PC re signing Marty
AC flat out Said Savatgy is out
1st I've heard that he was out for sure
Sorry if I've missed it being said before
But anyway
That brings the question
What Team do yall think he is going to ?
If they know for sure he is out already
My guess would be that he is already signed some where
Just a guess though.
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5/11/2018 5:13pm
He needs a change of scenery imho. I'd also like to see what he is capable of on a 450.
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5/11/2018 5:26pm
I think he meant he's out of the class. Pretty sure he pointed out. That would mean that he would be out at PC and on a 450 team.
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5/11/2018 5:30pm
Kawasaki 450 next season, 1yr deal, is the playground rumor.

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5/11/2018 11:58pm
How is jmart not pointed out?
He should be IMO. It’s a joke that a two time MX champ in his 6th(?) year pro can still race the development class.
5/12/2018 1:43am
Some riders have become 450 riders and just havent noticed it yet. See the Justin Hill case scenario. He was lost in the lites class goes to 450s boom he was upfront. All of a sudden Hill speculates rumors of being a very big thing. Joey has won and someone who has won once can do it again. He is capable
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How is jmart not pointed out?
TDeath21 wrote:
He should be IMO. It’s a joke that a two time MX champ in his 6th(?) year pro can still race the development class.
Martin Davalos just took his shirt off.
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5/12/2018 3:09am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2018 4:39am
Some riders have become 450 riders and just havent noticed it yet. See the Justin Hill case scenario. He was lost in the lites class goes...
Some riders have become 450 riders and just havent noticed it yet. See the Justin Hill case scenario. He was lost in the lites class goes to 450s boom he was upfront. All of a sudden Hill speculates rumors of being a very big thing. Joey has won and someone who has won once can do it again. He is capable
"Joey has won and someone who has won once can do it again."

That's not really accurate. Just because someone has won races or championships in the 250 class it doesn't automatically mean they'll adapt to the 450 and be as successful as they were on the little bike. A rider might have the potential to win races but it doesn't mean they will.

Here's a few examples.

Jake Weimer, 1 time 250 SX West champion. Moved up to the 450 class in 2012. He's had some podiums but has yet to win a race.

Christophe Pourcel, 2 time 250 SX East champion. Moved up to the 450 class in 2011. Has 2 podiums and no wins.

Dean Wilson, 2011 250 outdoor champion. Moved up to the 450's in 2014. Got 2 outdoor podiums last year and has yet to win a race.

Jason Lawrence, 1 time 250 SX West champion. Moved up to the 450's in 2009. 1 outdoor podium, 1 SX podium and no wins.

Some guys just ride the 250 better than the 450 just like some guys ride the 450 better than the 250. As for Savatgy we have yet to see what he can do on a 450 so he could end up being very successful in that class or struggle adapting to the big bike and never reach a podium again.
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5/12/2018 4:11am
Did Ivan Tedesco ever win on the 450, after his 250f championships with PC?
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5/12/2018 4:22am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2018 4:24am
kawasa84 wrote:
Did Ivan Tedesco ever win on the 450, after his 250f championships with PC?
Hot Sauce has 1 win. 2009 Thunder Valley he went 1-1.

2004 & 2005 250 SX West champion
2005 250 outdoor champion
5/12/2018 4:33am
Some riders have become 450 riders and just havent noticed it yet. See the Justin Hill case scenario. He was lost in the lites class goes...
Some riders have become 450 riders and just havent noticed it yet. See the Justin Hill case scenario. He was lost in the lites class goes to 450s boom he was upfront. All of a sudden Hill speculates rumors of being a very big thing. Joey has won and someone who has won once can do it again. He is capable
-MAVERICK- wrote:
[i]"Joey has won and [b]someone who has won once can do it again[/b]."[/i] That's not really accurate. Just because someone has won races or championships in...
"Joey has won and someone who has won once can do it again."

That's not really accurate. Just because someone has won races or championships in the 250 class it doesn't automatically mean they'll adapt to the 450 and be as successful as they were on the little bike. A rider might have the potential to win races but it doesn't mean they will.

Here's a few examples.

Jake Weimer, 1 time 250 SX West champion. Moved up to the 450 class in 2012. He's had some podiums but has yet to win a race.

Christophe Pourcel, 2 time 250 SX East champion. Moved up to the 450 class in 2011. Has 2 podiums and no wins.

Dean Wilson, 2011 250 outdoor champion. Moved up to the 450's in 2014. Got 2 outdoor podiums last year and has yet to win a race.

Jason Lawrence, 1 time 250 SX West champion. Moved up to the 450's in 2009. 1 outdoor podium, 1 SX podium and no wins.

Some guys just ride the 250 better than the 450 just like some guys ride the 450 better than the 250. As for Savatgy we have yet to see what he can do on a 450 so he could end up being very successful in that class or struggle adapting to the big bike and never reach a podium again.
Did Jake Weimer win 2 titles?
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5/12/2018 4:38am
Did Jake Weimer win 2 titles?
Sorry. 1 title in 2010.

I'll edit it.
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5/12/2018 7:17am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2018 7:25am
kawasa84 wrote:
Did Ivan Tedesco ever win on the 450, after his 250f championships with PC?
A lot of guys won On 250's and 125's that didnt do great on big bikes
Imo they are Both pro Classes
Just a little different style
It is Not a development class and shouldn't be
There have been some that
Didnt think they where ready to move up
But where forced (Trey was one )


5/12/2018 9:03am
How is jmart not pointed out?
TDeath21 wrote:
He should be IMO. It’s a joke that a two time MX champ in his 6th(?) year pro can still race the development class.
He’s been getting straight up smoked in SX for 5 of those 6 years.
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5/12/2018 9:26am
How is jmart not pointed out?
Easier to believe why J.Mart hasn't pointed out than Davalos that's been riding the 250 since 2006.

J.Mart turned pro in 2012.
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5/12/2018 10:42am
How is jmart not pointed out?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Easier to believe why J.Mart hasn't pointed out than Davalos that's been riding the 250 since 2006.

J.Mart turned pro in 2012.
Davalos & Osborne both turned pro in 2006. Everyone gives Davalos shit but not one word about Osborne.
5/12/2018 11:11am
B Gotti wrote:
Davalos & Osborne both turned pro in 2006. Everyone gives Davalos shit but not one word about Osborne.
Osbourne gets lots of shit for sticking around barely beating teanagers. Consider that both of these guys went pro before Dungey.
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5/12/2018 11:16am
avidchimp wrote:
Kawasaki 450 next season, 1yr deal, is the playground rumor.
He'll be a better bang-for-the-buck investment than Grant ever was.
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5/12/2018 3:58pm
How is jmart not pointed out?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Easier to believe why J.Mart hasn't pointed out than Davalos that's been riding the 250 since 2006.

J.Mart turned pro in 2012.
B Gotti wrote:
Davalos & Osborne both turned pro in 2006. Everyone gives Davalos shit but not one word about Osborne.
I totally get what you're saying and I agree. That said talking about supercross only Osborne hasn't raced as many seasons as Davalos since he left to go race overseas. If we're talking about both SX and MX than yes he's been in the 250 the same amount of time.

Davalos: 12 SX Seasons
Osborne: 9 SX Seasons
J. Mart: 5 SX Seasons

Crazy to think that Davalos still hasn't pointed out after 12 seasons. He's got the record for most 250 SX starts. I can't remember the exact amount but it was mentioned on the broadcast this season. I know it's over 70 starts.

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