SPY PHOTO – Honda CRF450 Factory 2021

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#434 1/30/2020 1:20am
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Momus wrote:
It looks like a die casting, perhaps a forging, rather than machined.
#434 wrote:
No it doesn‘t.
Momus wrote:
You are looking at the milled Ti footpeg frame bracket right?
Dude, you can clearly see the milling marks on the lower part of the frame.

It makes sense (because it's very fast) to mill the first prototyps from a block to test differnet frame configurations. If they then decide on a general frame concept, they build a casting mould and cast the frame parts.

The only thing I wanted to say with my post was: Look, milled frame --> one-off works frame which is not in production yet!
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#434 1/30/2020 1:35am
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Can you see the milling marks now?

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Patrick461 1/30/2020 3:06am
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Two pipes kept me away from a new Honda for a while. I’m
A red rider always will be. Looks like I’ll be buying a 21 if they can drop a few lbs which looks like their goal kudos. Can’t wait. Plus it will be what the 2020 SX champ will ride next year!!
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Momus 1/30/2020 7:54am
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#434 wrote:
No it doesn‘t.
Momus wrote:
You are looking at the milled Ti footpeg frame bracket right?
#434 wrote:
Dude, you can clearly see the milling marks on the lower part of the frame. It makes sense (because it's very fast) to mill the first...
Dude, you can clearly see the milling marks on the lower part of the frame.

It makes sense (because it's very fast) to mill the first prototyps from a block to test differnet frame configurations. If they then decide on a general frame concept, they build a casting mould and cast the frame parts.

The only thing I wanted to say with my post was: Look, milled frame --> one-off works frame which is not in production yet!
I can see why you are saying machined #434.

It has a machine finished texture and looks like a casting or forging that has been coloured in- possibly by a cutter on a die grinder.

I'm not not convinced that it has been milled from solid.

Compare the work on the peg bracket to the finish on the frame.
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rjg 1/30/2020 7:58am
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They are both machined
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Momus 1/30/2020 9:22am
1/30/2020 9:22am Edited Date/Time 1/30/2020 9:23am
rjg wrote:
They are both machined
Evidence for your assertion that the frame member has been machined please.
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#434 1/30/2020 4:58pm
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rjg wrote:
They are both machined
Momus wrote:
Evidence for your assertion that the frame member has been machined please.
Evidence for your assertion that the frame member has been die casted please
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Momus wrote:
I can see why you are saying machined #434. It has a machine finished texture and looks like a casting or forging that has been coloured...
I can see why you are saying machined #434.

It has a machine finished texture and looks like a casting or forging that has been coloured in- possibly by a cutter on a die grinder.

I'm not not convinced that it has been milled from solid.

Compare the work on the peg bracket to the finish on the frame.
Oh look, the billet brake lever was also “cast or forged and then textured with a die grinder”.

Seriously dude. That’s absurd.


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Myke 1/30/2020 8:00pm
1/30/2020 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 1/31/2020 9:26am
Call me crazy but I thought the race the Honda bikes looked rigid in the rough compared to the Kawasaki's.
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kiwifan 1/30/2020 11:48pm
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Myke wrote:
Call me crazy but I thought the race the Honda bikes looked rigid in the rough compared to the Kawasaki's.
Crazy
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Momus 1/31/2020 1:24am
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#434 wrote:
Evidence for your assertion that the frame member has been die casted please
The irregular, angled burr cutter marks left after the part lines and shut marks were hand finished.
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grunkster 1/31/2020 6:17am
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they will need to drop more than a "few" pounds to be the lightest prod 450 in 2021
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tek14 1/31/2020 1:28pm
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grunkster wrote:
they will need to drop more than a "few" pounds to be the lightest prod 450 in 2021
About 6kg or 13 pounds.Great if they can shave that much.
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Cr4501 4/29/2020 8:03pm
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why does Exhaust looks like came off 2009 Crf450r Ugly
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Black Diesel Bomber 4/29/2020 9:37pm
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Patrick461 wrote:
Two pipes kept me away from a new Honda for a while. I’m A red rider always will be. Looks like I’ll be buying a 21...
Two pipes kept me away from a new Honda for a while. I’m
A red rider always will be. Looks like I’ll be buying a 21 if they can drop a few lbs which looks like their goal kudos. Can’t wait. Plus it will be what the 2020 SX champ will ride next year!!
I might be going red again too. The dual exhaust was super lame on a MX bike. I'm currently going through my photo library and just cringe every time I see the rear of a Honda with duals. Thank god they are getting rid of them.
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kiwifan 4/29/2020 10:25pm
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Cr4501 wrote:
why does Exhaust looks like came off 2009 Crf450r Ugly
Get used to it, most exhaust cans look ugly unless aftermarket
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kiwifan 4/29/2020 11:30pm
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Black Diesel Bomber wrote:
I might be going red again too. The dual exhaust was super lame on a MX bike. I'm currently going through my photo library and just...
I might be going red again too. The dual exhaust was super lame on a MX bike. I'm currently going through my photo library and just cringe every time I see the rear of a Honda with duals. Thank god they are getting rid of them.
Fair comment, personally I love the look however unlike those who would not buy one with duals, I would buy one without duals Smile Either way it doesnt worry me in the least, duals certainly polarized a lot of people. Maybe MXA might now put it first place in its shootout Smile lol
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303MX 5/9/2020 5:45pm
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Anyone got any guesses on how Covid-19 will affect when the 2021 bikes will be delivered?

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soggy 5/10/2020 6:43am
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303MX wrote:
Anyone got any guesses on how Covid-19 will affect when the 2021 bikes will be delivered?
id guess late summer early fall at best. right now is typically when ktm/kawi have announced new model years well see if that gets delayed.
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H4L 5/10/2020 7:10am
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kiwifan wrote:
Fair comment, personally I love the look however unlike those who would not buy one with duals, I would buy one without duals :) Either way...
Fair comment, personally I love the look however unlike those who would not buy one with duals, I would buy one without duals Smile Either way it doesnt worry me in the least, duals certainly polarized a lot of people. Maybe MXA might now put it first place in its shootout Smile lol
Yup. Was thinking something similar about MXA when I 1st seen this post. Not that it matters since I don’t put to much stock into shootouts.
I thought it was funny to see MXA continue to keep putting the orange bike in the top spot these last few years. When all the other shootouts had other brands at the top because of all the positive changes made to improve their bikes.
It will be interesting to see if Jody & the gang will actually pick this bike if it does live up to the hype.
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