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People are individuals and have different levels of fear. It’s not for you or Ryno to decide. Some people are afraid of heights some aren’t, some people like to go fast some don’t and some people are afraid to get to get hurt, some aren’t. It’s called risk assessment and we are all different.
I would like to believe that everyone that rides or buys a dirt bike knows the consequences before hand and if not can quickly learn the second they wrap the throttle.
It’s not the tracks job to access riders as you can be Billy Badass early in the day but be Bronco Billy later in the day when it gets rough. How do you assess who belongs out there and who doesn’? Nevermind, how many CC’s they should be allowed.
WTF, so when you sign in in the morning there is a questionnaire asking how many times you trained this week, do you have a coach, are you qualified to be on “X” cc’s, before you get on the track I have to see you ride, etc. etc. talk about killing the sport....
Meh, I digress
The Shop
At Cahuilla Mx track giving lessons...A couple weeks ago...friend knows him ...he never responded so thinking he is not in
Need of money 💰He sure knows how to
Ride a Mx Bike! Maybe not the Best Communication Skills....
I’m just learning so I’ve been watching as many videos as I can thinking it is helpful🤓
Last week a car drifted and hit a Husqvarna 401 motorcycle coming the other way. Rider down. Drove right past it. Week before that, about a mile further down the road, another car drifted and hit a Ducati Multistrada, killing the rider. This is happening A LOT out here.
How about you stop fucking filming videos while driving Ryno before you drift across the lane and kill a rider. Maybe you should take a driving school eh?
But it’s bad timing for sure, and the reality is, it’s dangerous in spite of competency, some times when you do something dangerous shit happens. Sounds like Chris was an enthusiast and had an idea, but war taken too soon. Rip and prayers to his family. Truly awful.
He has zero details on this riders abilities but sure does go on a senseless rant making a lot of assumptions.
Some of you see passion? I see a classless ex-pro who thinks he knows it all and thinks very very highly of his opinion.
How’s that old saying go... “better to keep your mouth closed and be thought ignorant then to open your mouth and remove all doubt”
That fits perfectly here.
Thank you Ryan for removing all doubt.
Modern bikes have better brakes, suspension, tyres and user friendly motors, safety gear fits and actually protects you, while tracks in general are groomed with purposely shaped jumps to lower risks.
Maybe you’re just confusing difficulty with your own development as a rider, or the maturing of your mind, so that you’re now more conscious of the risks?
What exactly has gotten harder???
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Ryno's post was irrational and jumps around a bit no doubt but honestly I appreciate that raw emotion cause that's how I feel when I hear about a rider passing. Mad, scared, searching for solutions... Put yourself in his position though, as a teacher. The guy is laying there passed on the infield and he hears someone say "Are they gonna let us ride again?!?" Then looking around seeing everyone on their cell phone while waiting for the track to get cleared.
Just the way it is right now I guess. It is kind of sad that people are so out of touch with each others situations though.
I will carry it just a bit further and suggest that it has gotten easier, perhaps too easy.
If we think back to when a lot of us got started back in the late 70s/early 80's you had to learn some decent skills before you could go fast enough to suffer some of the catestrophic injuries that seem to be becoming way to common now.
You had to have your cornering down and really hit a section right to think about clearing an obstacles on a 125.
Go too fast into a rough section and you would quickly find the limits of your suspension.
Now with the modern bikes anybody can come out of a corner on a 450 (and even a 250f) and get into some serious trouble.
The tracks have changed into groomed roadrace courses with a few big jumps thrown in. The average speeds and top speeds are just ridiculous.
I am hoping that when the transition happens to electric that some kind of programming limitations can be considered to limit the speeds at certain skill levels instead of compounding the problem by trying to make an E-bike that can out perform a 450.
Ryan seems like he thinks we are all students at one of classes. His crazy unhinged preaching turned into white noise years ago.
Get a coach! But don’t cheap out and get a half-priced coach. Also, I give free coaching. -Ryan Hughes.
My first 125 probably had 20 horsepower. My 2021 450 has upwards of 60 horsepower. A rider on a local average track can experience up to 7 G’s each lap.
So to answer your question, holding on has become harder, not only for crusty old farts like me, but for every human that rides these machines.
Pit Row
You can get yourself in a LOT of trouble on a 450 if you don’t have the skills AND fitness to control it when things don’t go according to plan.
And to be honest, I feel fitness might be even more important than skills.
Your first 125 also weighed SIGNIFICANTLY less than a new 450, which adds to the forces and inertia involved now.
Older bikes also as mentioned somewhere in this thread limited your ability to ride above your head. You needed a lot more skill, corner speed, and bike control to be able to go for the big jump out of the corner, or to get the speed to make certain sections.
Now with the broad power delivery, more traction, more power ; you don’t have to shift, carry any speed, or have much of any talent and you can get the speed needed to clear sections way above your abilities, which no doubt leads to some consequences.
I also love the awesome power I have available on my 350 and 450.
But if you go to a track like glen helen or pala, you need similar skills and fitness to ride any size displacement.
You still have to endure the same g forces that are built into the track design regardless if you are riding a 125 or a 450.
Local public tracks nowadays feature many more jumps and bowl corners than even 10 years ago, and hitting all those obstacles at speed is more physically demanding.
I’m not complaining about anything, I love the challenge of hard tracks- if I can clear all the jumps and hold on for a 20 minute moto with consistent lap times, that’s my personal victory.
The power-to-weight ratio of machines is getting pretty damn crazy, and the suspension is allowing people to feel very confident.
But when things go wrong, suspension still rebounds, bike still swaps and tires can only hang on for so much traction.
Edit: I’m sorry for the loss of your friend.
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