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Copied from RacerX So why wasn't the same penalty handed out to Martin ?
March 19th 2016
It appeared Ryan Dungey jetted of with his sixth win of the season tonight at Detroit's Ford Field, but Racer X has learned of a huge shakeup in the results, with Dungey receiving a two-position penalty for jumping through a section where a red cross flag was being shown. This moves second-place Jason Anderson up to take the win--his second of the year and his career--and Marvin Musquin to third. Marvin was second until the last lap when he fell, handing second to Anderson. That would have been a win for Marvin.
The AMA official results are now showing Anderson as the winner, with Musquin and Dungey second and third. We've just received a phone call from a source at the AMA indicating those results will stand, and Anderson is the official winner in Detroit.
No, we can't think of the last time this has happened!
March 19th 2016
It appeared Ryan Dungey jetted of with his sixth win of the season tonight at Detroit's Ford Field, but Racer X has learned of a huge shakeup in the results, with Dungey receiving a two-position penalty for jumping through a section where a red cross flag was being shown. This moves second-place Jason Anderson up to take the win--his second of the year and his career--and Marvin Musquin to third. Marvin was second until the last lap when he fell, handing second to Anderson. That would have been a win for Marvin.
The AMA official results are now showing Anderson as the winner, with Musquin and Dungey second and third. We've just received a phone call from a source at the AMA indicating those results will stand, and Anderson is the official winner in Detroit.
No, we can't think of the last time this has happened!
Not saying its the right thing to do, but its a pretty good reason as to why he would do what he did.
Ill go try to find it
The Shop
I don’t want to see Martin lose the win, and didn’t want to see Dungey lose that win in Detroit in 2016 on a technicality. But if the penalty for jumping under a Red Cross flag is losing 2 positions then always dock 2 positions. If it’s 5 seconds then dock 5 seconds. If it’s a black flag then black flag. But don’t change the penalty based on how the official “feels” about it at the time.
There should be no judgement calls on the rule book. As much as I hate F1s draconian rule book and penalties at least they try and be consistent. In football an offsides is 5 yards, holding is 10. It’s not sometimes 2 yards (unless it’s half the distance to the goal) but that’s been specified and followed.
If the the rules and circumstances are the same then yea its bs they dock dungy and not martin.
But when have the rules been 100% fair to all riders?
Pit Row
Oh well. Onto next week. suck it up you individual contractors you!!
The rule is for safety. They're simply trying to deter riders from putting other riders in danger. However, in Dungey's case, he would have put himself (A RIDER) in extreme danger. He would have had to try to "not" to jump a triple he was fully committed to when he saw the flag.
To me they are quite different.... Martin chose to jump "AFTER" he successfully rolled the first obstacle. Dungey would have had to chop the throttle and potentially go to the hospital.
It would be subjective if there was a question as to whether the flag was actually displayed or if a rider jumped too far on a single while the flag was out.
"So, why did that not happen to Martin? Well, it’s because the rulebook changed after the 2016 season. That means the 2018 rulebook has a different rule than what Dungey faced in 2016. "
the 7 points should have went somewhere not just bye bye
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