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DeStouwer
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Another nine days of waiting until the chamionship really starts. Gates are pretty stacked, 35 in MXGP and 39 in MX2. In MX2 young Frenchie Yannick Fabre replaces Petar Petrov for Kawasaki. Never heard of him before, anyone here does?

MXGP
4 Arnaud Tonus SUI FMS Yamaha Wilvo Yamaha MXGP
7 Tanel Leok EST EMF Husqvarna Husqvarna 8Biano Racing
12 Maximilian Nagl GER DMSB Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
17 José Butrón ESP RFME KTM Marchetti Racing Team KTM
21 Gautier Paulin FRA MCM Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
22 Kevin Strijbos BEL FMB Suzuki Team Suzuki World MXGP
24 Shaun Simpson GBR ACU Yamaha Wilvo Yamaha MXGP
25 Clément Desalle BEL FMB Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
27 Arminas Jasikonis LTU DMSB Suzuki Team Suzuki World MXGP
45 Jake Nicholls GBR ACU KTM Hitachi KTM UK
54 Ezequiel Fanello ARG CAMOD Yamaha
58 Nicolás Carranza ARG CAMOD Husqvarna
60 Jetro Salazar ECU FPEM Honda
77 Alessandro Lupino ITA FMI Honda Team Honda Red Moto
84 Jeffrey Herlings NED KNMV KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
89 Jeremy Van Horebeek BEL FMB Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory
92 Valentin Guillod SUI FMS Honda Team Honda Red Moto
99 Max Anstie GBR ACU Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
150 José Manuel Fernández CHL FMC Honda
171 Juan Pablo Luzzardi ARG CAMOD KTM
179 Joaquín Poli ARG CAMOD Honda
198 Agustín Poli ARG CAMOD Husqvarna
222 Antonio Cairoli ITA FMI KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
243 Tim Gajser SLO AMZS Honda Team HRC MXGP
244 Javier Vasquez CHL FMC Honda
259 Glenn Coldenhoff NED KNMV KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
286 Felipe Danke CHL FMC Kawasaki
461 Romain Febvre FRA FFM Yamaha Monster Energy Yamaha Factory
771 Marco Schmit ARG CAMOD Yamaha
777 Evgeny Bobryshev RUS MUL Honda Team HRC MXGP
901 Joaquín Fernández ARG CAMOD Yamaha
911 Jordi Tixier FRA FFM Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
925 Jeremías Fernández ARG CAMOD Yamaha
952 José Gerardo Felipe ARG CAMOD Kawasaki
999 Rui Gonçalves POR FMP Husqvarna Husqvarna 8Biano Racing

MX2
6 Benoît Paturel FRA FFM Yamaha Kemea Yamaha Yamalube Racing
10 Calvin Vlaanderen NED KNMV KTM HSF Logistics Motorsport Team
18 Vsevolod Brylyakov RUS MFR Kawasaki Monster Energy DRT Kawasaki
19 Thomas Kjær Olsen DEN DMU Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
28 Chihiro Notsuka JPN MFJ Honda Team HRC
33 Julien Lieber BEL FMB KTM LRT KTM
41 Pauls Jonass LAT LaMSF KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
46 Davy Pootjes NED KNMV KTM HSF Logistics Motorsport Team
48 Jay Wilson AUS MA Yamaha iFly JK Racing
57 Darian Sanayei USA AMA Kawasaki Monster Energy DRT Kawasaki
61 Jorge Prado García ESP RFME KTM Red Bull KTM Factory Racing
64 Thomas Covington USA AMA Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
66 Iker Larrañaga ESP RFME Husqvarna Husqvarna 8Biano Racing
67 Magne Klingsheim NOR NMF Kawasaki F&H Racing Team
91 Jeremy Seewer SUI FMS Suzuki Team Suzuki World MX2
96 Hunter Lawrence AUS MA Suzuki Team Suzuki World MX2
97 Maykal Ivanov BUL FRM Honda Vamo Racing Team
98 Bas Vaessen NED KNMV Suzuki Team Suzuki World MX2
109 Yannick Fabre FRA FFM Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
111 Víctor Garrido ARG CAMOD Kawasaki
118 Stephen Rubini FRA FFM Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
122 Benjamín Cassano ARG CAMOD Suzuki
128 Ivo Monticelli ITA FMI KTM Marchetti Racing Team KTM
142 Ivan Petrov BUL FRM Husqvarna Husqvarna 8Biano Racing
143 Sebastián Muñoz CHL FMC Suzuki
155 Nicolás Mana ARG CAMOD KTM
161 Alvin Östlund SWE SVEMO Yamaha Kemea Yamaha Yamalube Racing
170 Caleb Ward AUS MA Husqvarna Husqvarna 8Biano Racing
172 Brent Van Doninck BEL FMB Yamaha Kemea Yamaha Yamalube Racing
189 Brian Bogers NED KNMV KTM HSF Logistics Motorsport Team
276 Sergio Villaronga CHL FMC KTM
297 Anton Gole SWE SVEMO Husqvarna CEC Husqvarna Sweden
321 Samuele Bernardini ITA FMI TM TM Racing Factory Team
375 Julián Seibel ARG CAMOD Honda
426 Conrad Mewse GBR ACU Husqvarna Rockstar Energy Husqvarna Factory
611 Nahuel Kriger ARG CAMOD KTM
747 Michele Cervellin ITA FMI Honda Team HRC
811 Adam Sterry GBR ACU Kawasaki Monster Energy Kawasaki Racing
919 Ben Watson GBR ACU KTM Hitachi KTM UK
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Plugga
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3/9/2017 1:49am
Why oh why can't the season start in AUS, then NZ, then ARGY.?

Plugga
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3/9/2017 2:15am
I mean……the boys could come here a few weeks earlier, acclimatise, learn how to surf, get a tan, hunt kangaroos, get shitfaced at a RSL or bowls club, go to the cricket and get shitfaced, throw a boomerang (or a punch at the local), wrestle snakes, see spiders bigger than Shaq’s hands, shag everything in site etc. Then once in NZ they could enjoy the rain, go see a rugby match, or even buy some velcro gloves and chase Barbara around the paddock.

I have no idea what they do in Argentina sorry.Unsure

Oh wait...that's right, the local governments here don't want to pay the ransom money.
Motofinne
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3/9/2017 2:23am
Plugga wrote:
I mean……the boys could come here a few weeks earlier, acclimatise, learn how to surf, get a tan, hunt kangaroos, get shitfaced at a RSL or...
I mean……the boys could come here a few weeks earlier, acclimatise, learn how to surf, get a tan, hunt kangaroos, get shitfaced at a RSL or bowls club, go to the cricket and get shitfaced, throw a boomerang (or a punch at the local), wrestle snakes, see spiders bigger than Shaq’s hands, shag everything in site etc. Then once in NZ they could enjoy the rain, go see a rugby match, or even buy some velcro gloves and chase Barbara around the paddock.

I have no idea what they do in Argentina sorry.Unsure

Oh wait...that's right, the local governments here don't want to pay the ransom money.
I hope you understand how big the race in Indonesia was for the manufacturers? The market for mopeds and motorcycles there is incredibly big, i mean some could actually argue that that race could be the biggest MX race this year for the OEMs when it comes to marketing.

It seems like this was the last time the GPs went to Qatar but i'm sure that they will want to replace it with some other race in the middle east or asia. I would love to see the opener in Australia or Argentina(my favorite MX event on the calendar, not including MXdN) .

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ayearinmx
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3/9/2017 2:48am
Honda sell more motorcycles in Indonesia than they do in the whole of Europe.....
Cortami79
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3/9/2017 3:23am
´´In MX2 young Frenchie Yannick Fabre replaces Petar Petrov for Kawasaki. Never heard of him before, anyone here does?´´

I read that he is a French champion that doesnt really have money or resources that could get him into the GP´s. So the Kawasaki team gives him a opportunity for Argentinia as the bikes are already shipped for petrov who´s injured.

The race in indonesia had a good audience, it was stacked! The only problem is the handmade track.. Argentinia is btw the best race and best track in the year for me. Huge crowds, amazing track and awesome racing. Can´t wait!

For MX2 I think we will see a group of 4 riders that will ride for the championship. Paturel, Seewer, Jonass and Lieber. Don´t count out Brylakov by the way, he was really fast in Qatar but just had some bad luck. Olsen impressed me too. He was really impresive last year and it seems like he made another step for 2017. Ofcourse you´ll have some other names like Bernardini, Lawrence (!), Bogers, Prado and Covington that will ride for heat or race wins this year. So the MX2 is stacked!

MXGP will be awesome too, as Herlings should be fit by the time it is in Argentinia.
Motofinne
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3/9/2017 3:27am
ayearinmx wrote:
Honda sell more motorcycles in Indonesia than they do in the whole of Europe.....
Yeah that is my point. The race in Indonesia is huge for the manufactures.
Park Boys
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3/9/2017 6:14am Edited Date/Time 3/9/2017 6:28am
ayearinmx wrote:
Honda sell more motorcycles in Indonesia than they do in the whole of Europe.....
Is the Profit as high on scooters/mopeds? Just curiuos due to economics I would assume the average selling price of a motorcycle in Europe is much higher than a Indonesia.
3/9/2017 6:59am
ayearinmx wrote:
Honda sell more motorcycles in Indonesia than they do in the whole of Europe.....
Park Boys wrote:
Is the Profit as high on scooters/mopeds? Just curiuos due to economics I would assume the average selling price of a motorcycle in Europe is much...
Is the Profit as high on scooters/mopeds? Just curiuos due to economics I would assume the average selling price of a motorcycle in Europe is much higher than a Indonesia.
Like any item, profit margins on lower dollar items are typically greater.

Unless we are talking ferrari etc.
Bearuno
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3/9/2017 7:43am
ayearinmx wrote:
Honda sell more motorcycles in Indonesia than they do in the whole of Europe.....
Park Boys wrote:
Is the Profit as high on scooters/mopeds? Just curiuos due to economics I would assume the average selling price of a motorcycle in Europe is much...
Is the Profit as high on scooters/mopeds? Just curiuos due to economics I would assume the average selling price of a motorcycle in Europe is much higher than a Indonesia.
Like any item, profit margins on lower dollar items are typically greater.

Unless we are talking ferrari etc.
The Percent of profit per unit made usually is higher on Scooters / Small to Mid capacity Motorcycles than it is on what many call 'real motorcycles'. Especially ones made in such small numbers as MX bikes.

And when a single country such as Indonesia has sales of somewhere between 6 to 7 Million Bikes a year, it's a hell of a lot of profit when compared to under 500,000 bike sales in the US, and just under / perhaps just over 100,000 (Motorcycles - not including Scooters and ATVs) in Australia. 'Established / Traditional' markets are utterly Dwarfed by the Indonesian market, and by a fair few other 'Emerging' markets.

When people here (and on other sites) were going on about why a MXGP was being held in Argentina: in the same year (the year before the GP, I think) , Argentina sold about 484,000 bikes, as against about 475,000 in the US. And that was the year Argentina had a 'crash' in the bike market. You can learn a lot about bike sales around the World, with just a few clicks on that computer you are sitting in front of, or that 'phone that's in your hand.

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