Roczen to the GPs rumor

wrc777 wrote:

Roczen did 3 years in mx2 and he is from Germany. I would think of all riders not racing in mxgp he would have the easiest...

Roczen did 3 years in mx2 and he is from Germany. I would think of all riders not racing in mxgp he would have the easiest transition.

RalphS wrote:

Rumor has it that this thread is pure nonsense

mg311 wrote:

Roczen sign with triumph

Chris_Buehler wrote:

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant...

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant. Some would call it beautiful. If one takes more class, it's sx. Of course no one says one is more classier than the other because that's just weird. We get it dude, you don't like sx. Go post in your dumb thread

Chris_Buehler wrote:

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant...

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant. Some would call it beautiful. If one takes more class, it's sx. Of course no one says one is more classier than the other because that's just weird. We get it dude, you don't like sx. Go post in your dumb thread

vet40 wrote:

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol. Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders. Sx is cash...

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol.

Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders.

Sx is cash cow, and for riders that don’t like to travel outside their own country it makes a lot of sense.

I actually don’t hate sx, I just wondered why the most elite would want to do it, some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake or something you couldn’t control, see Forkner.

I just think when you have the talent on Roczen & 20 min dash on a slipper narrow dangerous transitions isn’t worth it.

I assume you’ve never been to a European GP judging by your out door assumptions.

vet40 wrote:

I would say so. I have a lot of respect for the US top riders, on their national tracks they are as fast as any GP...

I would say so.

I have a lot of respect for the US top riders, on their national tracks they are as fast as any GP rider.

But stick them on the GP tour & they will start becoming lost in the variety of terrains, longer wk ends, track conditions, weather etc

Do you remember Mitch Payten saying the fastest riders are the fastest riders, shortly before the Lommel MXON, referring to the fact that the US nationals guys will still be on top despite never competing at Lommel.

What happened ? Pro circuit national champs Blake Baggest gets lapped by Tanol Leok.

Obv it would only happen at somewhere on the GP calendar as there is a different art to GP’s.

It’s a level above any national series..

DonM wrote:

Hanging your hat on one friggin race….one friggin race…

Heggo wrote:

It's more than one race. There's plenty of evidence showing US riders, none more proving then Villo, having difficults in adopting to massive change in geography...

It's more than one race. There's plenty of evidence showing US riders, none more proving then Villo, having difficults in adopting to massive change in geography, borders, food, culture, travel, languages, schedule, racing style, track conditions, increased bike set up possibilities and getting lost .... it's a different beast that takes time. Just as it takes time for GP riders going to the USA. Any rider changing needs 2 years minimum to learn and adapt.

Cream will always rise though.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant...

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant. Some would call it beautiful. If one takes more class, it's sx. Of course no one says one is more classier than the other because that's just weird. We get it dude, you don't like sx. Go post in your dumb thread

vet40 wrote:

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol. Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders. Sx is cash...

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol.

Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders.

Sx is cash cow, and for riders that don’t like to travel outside their own country it makes a lot of sense.

I actually don’t hate sx, I just wondered why the most elite would want to do it, some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake or something you couldn’t control, see Forkner.

I just think when you have the talent on Roczen & 20 min dash on a slipper narrow dangerous transitions isn’t worth it.

I assume you’ve never been to a European GP judging by your out door assumptions.

toomanykaws wrote:

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he...

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he not got “injured” Kawi in the US was about to send parts and his old wrench over to help his efforts.

toomanykaws wrote:

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he...

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he not got “injured” Kawi in the US was about to send parts and his old wrench over to help his efforts.

Heggo wrote:

and that bike and mechanic would have still needed time to adapt. US settings don't work as well in Europe and that is why the riders...

and that bike and mechanic would have still needed time to adapt. US settings don't work as well in Europe and that is why the riders try to get there with time to test before every MXdN or MXoN. It wasn't a lack of knowledge in Europe holding him back.

tek14 wrote:

Very unlikely he will do long MXGP series. New euro SX series could fit him better just couple of races and no big names racing.

toomanykaws wrote:

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he...

RV gets piled on for his efforts. But to be fair. That KX450 wasn’t the same he had for the outdoors in the US. Had he not got “injured” Kawi in the US was about to send parts and his old wrench over to help his efforts.

Heggo wrote:

and that bike and mechanic would have still needed time to adapt. US settings don't work as well in Europe and that is why the riders...

and that bike and mechanic would have still needed time to adapt. US settings don't work as well in Europe and that is why the riders try to get there with time to test before every MXdN or MXoN. It wasn't a lack of knowledge in Europe holding him back.

DonM wrote:

All he wanted was his same motor….

Chris_Buehler wrote:

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant...

"I've always felt he's far more classy then that." Wtf does that even mean? Outdoors is wide open, brutal, and nasty. Sx is precise and elegant. Some would call it beautiful. If one takes more class, it's sx. Of course no one says one is more classier than the other because that's just weird. We get it dude, you don't like sx. Go post in your dumb thread

vet40 wrote:

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol. Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders. Sx is cash...

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol.

Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders.

Sx is cash cow, and for riders that don’t like to travel outside their own country it makes a lot of sense.

I actually don’t hate sx, I just wondered why the most elite would want to do it, some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake or something you couldn’t control, see Forkner.

I just think when you have the talent on Roczen & 20 min dash on a slipper narrow dangerous transitions isn’t worth it.

I assume you’ve never been to a European GP judging by your out door assumptions.

DonM wrote:

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence...

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence brothers are some of the current riders who have traveled out of their own country….not to mention the many before them
“Some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake”…One word…Herlings…

You keep arguing the same BS and nobody agrees with you…nobody…so that might be an indicator that YOU could possibly be wrong…

vet40 wrote:

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol. Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders. Sx is cash...

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol.

Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders.

Sx is cash cow, and for riders that don’t like to travel outside their own country it makes a lot of sense.

I actually don’t hate sx, I just wondered why the most elite would want to do it, some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake or something you couldn’t control, see Forkner.

I just think when you have the talent on Roczen & 20 min dash on a slipper narrow dangerous transitions isn’t worth it.

I assume you’ve never been to a European GP judging by your out door assumptions.

DonM wrote:

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence...

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence brothers are some of the current riders who have traveled out of their own country….not to mention the many before them
“Some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake”…One word…Herlings…

You keep arguing the same BS and nobody agrees with you…nobody…so that might be an indicator that YOU could possibly be wrong…

vet40 wrote:

So 8th place is making sense for Ferrandis ? Your adding so much emotion your loosing track of the results. I don’t care who agrees with...

So 8th place is making sense for Ferrandis ?

Your adding so much emotion your loosing track of the results.

I don’t care who agrees with me, Sx is no comparison to MXGP. It’s a well paid side show.

It’s like taking Hamilton, Verstapan, vetel etc & taco them round a little indoor go cart circuit, but because it’s easier to reach the casual fans somehow it’s better. It just isn’t.

You put money before everything that really matters.

vet40 wrote:

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol. Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders. Sx is cash...

Suggesting Sx is elegant isn’t weird then.. Yeah right lol.

Sx is brutal, just look the injury lists, take outs & frustrated riders.

Sx is cash cow, and for riders that don’t like to travel outside their own country it makes a lot of sense.

I actually don’t hate sx, I just wondered why the most elite would want to do it, some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake or something you couldn’t control, see Forkner.

I just think when you have the talent on Roczen & 20 min dash on a slipper narrow dangerous transitions isn’t worth it.

I assume you’ve never been to a European GP judging by your out door assumptions.

DonM wrote:

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence...

“For riders that don’t like to travel out of their own country it makes a lot of sense”…oh let me see…Ferandis, Musquin, Roczen and both Lawrence brothers are some of the current riders who have traveled out of their own country….not to mention the many before them
“Some of the injuries come from the most minor mistake”…One word…Herlings…

You keep arguing the same BS and nobody agrees with you…nobody…so that might be an indicator that YOU could possibly be wrong…

vet40 wrote:

So 8th place is making sense for Ferrandis ? Your adding so much emotion your loosing track of the results. I don’t care who agrees with...

So 8th place is making sense for Ferrandis ?

Your adding so much emotion your loosing track of the results.

I don’t care who agrees with me, Sx is no comparison to MXGP. It’s a well paid side show.

It’s like taking Hamilton, Verstapan, vetel etc & taco them round a little indoor go cart circuit, but because it’s easier to reach the casual fans somehow it’s better. It just isn’t.

You put money before everything that really matters.

mxb2 wrote:

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the...

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the love of the sport, integrity. Lol. Foh.

mxb2 wrote:

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the...

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the love of the sport, integrity. Lol. Foh.

vet40 wrote:

All the top MXGP guys have money & the series.

There is no compromise.

mxb2 wrote:

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the...

Well you better tell herlings and gajser to ride for way less of a paycheck then Since according to you its not about $, but the love of the sport, integrity. Lol. Foh.

vet40 wrote:

All the top MXGP guys have money & the series.

There is no compromise.