Roczen and aldon

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Edited Date/Time 2/7/2015 6:14am
Guys this is purely rumor here, but it's something other than reed and canard so I figure why not talk about it.

I spoke with someone in the know ( and no I will not say who )that aldon and roczen may have parted ways.

If true it seems like strange timing as kenny is having so much success, but who knows how things are behind the scenes.

Guys if this is totally false I apologize for wasting your time. Flame on
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DR176 1/22/2015 1:42pm
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Wow if true, that would be an interesting turn of events and something I wouldn't have seen coming.
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I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being 11 points or so apart Aldon needs to choose a side. There will always be jealousy or what not when you're sharing a person providing you a service. Are they providing me the same service? The same amount of effort? Is he as invested? Etc.....

The Dunge posted pics of eating ice cream (I believe) at Aldons house after Anaheim 1 at 1 a.m. Or so...... So it wouldn't surprise me if Roczen didn't keep with him.
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Skippie 1/22/2015 2:12pm
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#991 wrote:
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When you look at his track record and the riders he's worked with, it's understandable.

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MR. X 1/22/2015 2:12pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being...
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being 11 points or so apart Aldon needs to choose a side. There will always be jealousy or what not when you're sharing a person providing you a service. Are they providing me the same service? The same amount of effort? Is he as invested? Etc.....

The Dunge posted pics of eating ice cream (I believe) at Aldons house after Anaheim 1 at 1 a.m. Or so...... So it wouldn't surprise me if Roczen didn't keep with him.
When the Dunge asked for sprinkles ,Aldon responded that "only winners get sprinkels"
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#991 wrote:
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Skippie wrote:
When you look at his track record and the riders he's worked with, it's understandable.
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ToolMaker 1/22/2015 2:16pm
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Defies Logic. Didn't Aldon train RC prior to going to the Stewart camp?
And I think RC has a lot of influence with KR.
Both want to win the title bad. Makes no sense to me.
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Xracerdone 1/22/2015 2:19pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being...
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being 11 points or so apart Aldon needs to choose a side. There will always be jealousy or what not when you're sharing a person providing you a service. Are they providing me the same service? The same amount of effort? Is he as invested? Etc.....

The Dunge posted pics of eating ice cream (I believe) at Aldons house after Anaheim 1 at 1 a.m. Or so...... So it wouldn't surprise me if Roczen didn't keep with him.
MR. X wrote:
When the Dunge asked for sprinkles ,Aldon responded that "only winners get sprinkels"
By far the funniest thing I've read all day on here!
Tits Legendary 1/22/2015 2:21pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being...
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being 11 points or so apart Aldon needs to choose a side. There will always be jealousy or what not when you're sharing a person providing you a service. Are they providing me the same service? The same amount of effort? Is he as invested? Etc.....

The Dunge posted pics of eating ice cream (I believe) at Aldons house after Anaheim 1 at 1 a.m. Or so...... So it wouldn't surprise me if Roczen didn't keep with him.
It was coffee that they were having and that was after A3.
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ML512 1/22/2015 2:21pm
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MxKing809 wrote:
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being...
I've been anticipating something like this for a while, IF it's true. He's got to many irons in the fire..... With Roczen and Dungey only being 11 points or so apart Aldon needs to choose a side. There will always be jealousy or what not when you're sharing a person providing you a service. Are they providing me the same service? The same amount of effort? Is he as invested? Etc.....

The Dunge posted pics of eating ice cream (I believe) at Aldons house after Anaheim 1 at 1 a.m. Or so...... So it wouldn't surprise me if Roczen didn't keep with him.
MR. X wrote:
When the Dunge asked for sprinkles ,Aldon responded that "only winners get sprinkels"
Xracerdone wrote:
By far the funniest thing I've read all day on here!
Progressive commercial. Laughing
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Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro years. If the rumour is true it would be really cool if Kennys dad is a part of his program and success once again. It's not really my business though. Just wants the kiddo to have a good life. Family first.
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kiwifan 1/22/2015 3:08pm
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Well thats interesting if true, seems a strange time to part ways if it happened now...unless it occurred before the SX season started?
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jamma10 1/22/2015 3:17pm
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Olson wrote:
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro...
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro years. If the rumour is true it would be really cool if Kennys dad is a part of his program and success once again. It's not really my business though. Just wants the kiddo to have a good life. Family first.
I thought the rift with his dad happened around 2012/13, not during his early pro years?
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jamma10 1/22/2015 3:18pm
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Tits Legendary wrote:
Well played and good catch.

A2 is what I meant.
Slept in your car recently? Smile

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Olson 1/22/2015 3:25pm
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Olson wrote:
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro...
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro years. If the rumour is true it would be really cool if Kennys dad is a part of his program and success once again. It's not really my business though. Just wants the kiddo to have a good life. Family first.
jamma10 wrote:
I thought the rift with his dad happened around 2012/13, not during his early pro years?
Yea, I don't have the specifics on that one. It's in the past and that's what matters.
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jamma10 wrote:
Slept in your car recently? Smile
Tits Legendary wrote:
Funny.
I know, I'm hilarious right?

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Just heard the same from my very reliable source.
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Olson wrote:
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro...
Seen a lot of pics lately of Kenny hanging out with his dad. Like other top riders they had a rough patch during Kenny's early pro years. If the rumour is true it would be really cool if Kennys dad is a part of his program and success once again. It's not really my business though. Just wants the kiddo to have a good life. Family first.
Did they have a rough patch or was his Dad sent to exile like so many others under DeCoster? I thought it was weird that his Dad started showing up in his social media immediately after he left KTM.
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TerryK 1/22/2015 3:37pm
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Im guessing that KRoc couldnt handle Aldons training schedule. He has always liked to have a lot of fun and I bet it's too much for him.
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moscrop940 1/22/2015 3:40pm
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Because if that happens, the person whom tells me this stuff will be forced to stop.

And your usuing your question, if your not going to add something beneficial to the conversation, why post at all?
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RY4N37 1/22/2015 3:41pm
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To be honest i don't think Kenny needs Aldon Baker. At the end of the day he's been training with him for about a year now, why does he need to continue? He's perfectly capable of going away and doing the same training schedule he was doing with Aldon on his own. The RCH shop and test track is in California and Aldon's compound is in Florida, that's got to be a pain in the ass. I've never got the big deal with everyone having personal trainers anyway
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RY4N37 wrote:
To be honest i don't think Kenny needs Aldon Baker. At the end of the day he's been training with him for about a year now...
To be honest i don't think Kenny needs Aldon Baker. At the end of the day he's been training with him for about a year now, why does he need to continue? He's perfectly capable of going away and doing the same training schedule he was doing with Aldon on his own. The RCH shop and test track is in California and Aldon's compound is in Florida, that's got to be a pain in the ass. I've never got the big deal with everyone having personal trainers anyway
I always figured they needed personal trainers for the same reason they have dedicated suspension guys, and dedicated motor guys, etc.

Why not just hire a suspension guy for a year, and then fire him and just start doing what he did (I'm sure the mechanic is perfectly capable of doing the same work after he learns the suspension guys methods), right?

They have specialists for the suspension, motor and who knows what else on the bike...and it makes sense to have one for their body as well (at least in my opinion).
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thorns 1/22/2015 3:53pm
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So if true, does this mean that KTM is making Aldon the one stop shop for there riders?

Dungey, Musquin, Anderson (White KTM), maybe Wilson might jump onboard then?

Who else trains with him at present?
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RY4N37 wrote:
To be honest i don't think Kenny needs Aldon Baker. At the end of the day he's been training with him for about a year now...
To be honest i don't think Kenny needs Aldon Baker. At the end of the day he's been training with him for about a year now, why does he need to continue? He's perfectly capable of going away and doing the same training schedule he was doing with Aldon on his own. The RCH shop and test track is in California and Aldon's compound is in Florida, that's got to be a pain in the ass. I've never got the big deal with everyone having personal trainers anyway
Titan1 wrote:
I always figured they needed personal trainers for the same reason they have dedicated suspension guys, and dedicated motor guys, etc. Why not just hire a...
I always figured they needed personal trainers for the same reason they have dedicated suspension guys, and dedicated motor guys, etc.

Why not just hire a suspension guy for a year, and then fire him and just start doing what he did (I'm sure the mechanic is perfectly capable of doing the same work after he learns the suspension guys methods), right?

They have specialists for the suspension, motor and who knows what else on the bike...and it makes sense to have one for their body as well (at least in my opinion).
Exactly this. There is a lot more to having a personal trainer than just doing the work outs. You have to know how to read charts , evaluate each individual in many different ways , every day , what to eat and when to eat it......and push the athlete past comfortable zones. Believe it or not.....there is a science to it. And if Kenny had only been doing it for a year.....he's barley scratched the surface of what Aldon has knowledge of.

These guys win races at functioning at 100%. Most racers only get to about 95% and can't figure out where the hell to get the other 5%. A specialized training can fill that gap and at least get a racer to perform to the best of his ability.
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GuyB 1/22/2015 3:59pm
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Tits Legendary wrote:
It was coffee that they were having and that was after A3.
The A3 that hasn't happened yet?

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