Roczen and Nagl on pole in Bulagaria

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MX2 - Qualifying Race - Classification
Bestlaptime in lap Speed
1 94 Roczen, Ken GER
2 1 Musquin, Marvin FRA
3 111 Herlings, Jeffrey NED
4 89 van Horebeek, Jeremy BEL
5 183 Frossard, Steven FRA
6 27 Schiffer, Marcus GER
7 430 Charlier, Christophe FRA
8 23 Tonus, Arnaud SUI FMS
9 45 Nicholls, Jake GBR
10 37 Teillet, Valentin FRA
11 338 Osborne, Zach USA
12 151 Kullas, Harri FIN SML
13 75 Triest, Nick BEL
14 35 Larsen, Nikolaj DEN
15 52 Alletru, Axel FRA
16 335 Verbruggen, Dennis BEL
17 90 Moroni, Rudi ITA
18 11 Simpson, Shaun GBR
19 24 Brakke, Herjan NED
20 25 Coldenhoff, Glenn NED
21 71 Butron, Francisco Jose ESP
22 91 Karro, Matiss LAT
23 119 Pocock, Mel GBR
24 19 Smitka, Petr CZE
25 300 Tonkov, Aleksandr RUS
26 92 Battig, Alesandro ITA
27 153 Maddii, Marco ITA
28 123 Allingham, Edward GBR
29 77 Lupino, Alessandro ITA
30 211 Alberto, Paulo POR
31 414 Philippaerts, Deny ITA
32 152 Petrov, Petar BUL BMF
33 99 Ciucci, Dawid ITA
34 64 Vongsana, Khounsith FRA
35 95 Justs, Augusts LAT
36 711 Harbich, Radomir CZE
37 30 Klein Kromhof, Ceriel NED
38 34 Roelants, Joel BEL
39 131 Aubin, Nicolas FRA

Live results - MX1 - Qualifying Race

- 1 2 Nagl, Maximilian MX1 KTM
- 2 90 Pourcel, Sebastien MX1 Kawasaki
- 3 222 Cairoli, Antonio MX1 KTM
- 4 25 Desalle, Clement MX1 Suzuki
- 5 19 Philippaerts, David MX1 Yamaha
- 6 9 de Dycker, Ken MX1 Yamaha
- 7 11 Ramon, Steve MX1 Suzuki
- 8 8 Swanepoel, Gareth MX1 Honda
- 9 6 Coppins, Joshua MX1 Aprilia
- 10 39 Guarneri, Davide MX1 Honda
- 11 10 Boissiere, Anthony MX1 TM
- 12 121 Boog, Xavier MX1 Kawasaki
- 13 13 Monni, Manuel MX1 Yamaha
- 14 40 Leok, Tanel MX1 Honda
- 15 7 Barragan, Jonathan MX1 Kawasaki
- 16 14 de Reuver, Marc MX1 Suzuki
- 17 702 Albertson, Jimmy MX1 Honda
- 18 777 Bobryshev, Evgeny MX1 Honda
- 19 24 Church, Tom MX1 CCM
- 20 20 Aranda, Gregory MX1 Kawasaki
- 21 4 Strijbos, Kevin MX1 Suzuki
- 22 71 Sword, Stephen MX1 CCM
- 23 120 Soubeyras, Cedric MX1 KTM
- 24 77 Terreblanche, Shannon MX1 Kawasaki
- 25 57 Neugebauer, Filip MX1 Kawasaki
- 26 17 Söderström, Tom MX1 Yamaha
- 27 37 Krestinov, Gert MX1 KTM
- 28 49 Schmidinger, Günter MX1 Suzuki
- 29 15 Bill, Julien MX1 Aprilia
- 30 75 Wouts, Kevin MX1 Kawasaki
- 31 52 Walkner, Matthias MX1 KTM
- 32 383 Bellino, Mathias MX1 KTM
- 33 131 Michek, Martin MX1 TM
- 34 38 Martens, Yentel MX1 KTM
- 35 21 Jacquelin, Morgane MX1 Suzuki
- 36 36 Bonini, Matteo MX1 Yamaha
- 37 76 Sandberg, Rickard MX1 Kawasaki
- 38 27 Kempelis, Philips MX1 Honda
- 39 32 Priem, Manuel MX1 Aprilia
- 40 23 Verhoeven, Bas MX1 Honda
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Jef 4/3/2010 9:09am
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Roczen 1st in qualifying .... SSSsssssss..... don't tell Mccread ! ! !
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 9:14am
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Jef wrote:
Roczen 1st in qualifying .... SSSsssssss..... don't tell Mccread ! ! !
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field.
MX1 was similar. Nagl was gone to. Nagl was some 10 sec clear of the field in mx1.
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Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field. MX1 was similar. Nagl...
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field.
MX1 was similar. Nagl was gone to. Nagl was some 10 sec clear of the field in mx1.
Nagl on the 350?

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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 9:25am
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Albertson 17th. What happened?

Don't know. Not sure but from Jimmy's fast lap it looked like he was 5-6 sec a lap off the pace.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field. MX1 was similar. Nagl...
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field.
MX1 was similar. Nagl was gone to. Nagl was some 10 sec clear of the field in mx1.
HuskyEd wrote:
Nagl on the 350?
Nagl is riding the factory 450
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 9:29am
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DanDunes818 wrote:
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field. MX1 was similar. Nagl...
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field.
MX1 was similar. Nagl was gone to. Nagl was some 10 sec clear of the field in mx1.
HuskyEd wrote:
Nagl on the 350?
I'm like 99% sure Nagl is on the KTM 450, Tony was saying the 350 was at a disadvantage on this circuit.
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500guy 4/3/2010 9:32am
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Are they only having 1 qualifying race for each class or is this a combination of both qualifying moto's ?
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 9:34am
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Just 1 qualifier moto each class 500 guy,,, I believe they're 20 min plus one lap.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field. MX1 was similar. Nagl...
Yep..Roczen was 13 seconds ahead of Musquin and 22 seconds ahead of 3rd place Herlings.. He put a hurting on the field.
MX1 was similar. Nagl was gone to. Nagl was some 10 sec clear of the field in mx1.
HuskyEd wrote:
Nagl on the 350?
DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm like 99% sure Nagl is on the KTM 450, Tony was saying the 350 was at a disadvantage on this circuit.
I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys in the MX1 class?
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HuskyEd wrote:
Nagl on the 350?
DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm like 99% sure Nagl is on the KTM 450, Tony was saying the 350 was at a disadvantage on this circuit.
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I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys...
I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys in the MX1 class?
HE`S ON 450
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 10:01am
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HuskyEd wrote:
Nagl on the 350?
DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm like 99% sure Nagl is on the KTM 450, Tony was saying the 350 was at a disadvantage on this circuit.
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I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys...
I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys in the MX1 class?
You're right. The top mx2 guys were over a second faster then the top mx 1 guys. But what Tony is talking about is all the hills on the Bulgaria track. Although it sounds like from what I read Tony past Desalle going up one of the big hills so who knows..From the pics I saw its like GH in the sense that you're either going down a hill or up a hill around every corner.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm like 99% sure Nagl is on the KTM 450, Tony was saying the 350 was at a disadvantage on this circuit.
Zenn wrote:
I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys...
I can't see why the 350 would be a disatvantage though, cause the MX2 guys seems to run just as fast lap times as the boys in the MX1 class?
DanDunes818 wrote:
You're right. The top mx2 guys were over a second faster then the top mx 1 guys. But what Tony is talking about is all the...
You're right. The top mx2 guys were over a second faster then the top mx 1 guys. But what Tony is talking about is all the hills on the Bulgaria track. Although it sounds like from what I read Tony past Desalle going up one of the big hills so who knows..From the pics I saw its like GH in the sense that you're either going down a hill or up a hill around every corner.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's like GH
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 10:35am
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That's why I just said in the sense that you're going up or down hills. No track is as extreme as GH. I just meant it looked like there were allot of hills.
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mxmasta 4/3/2010 10:47am
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Hmm i like what i see...
All three top spots of the different classes show a german rider.
But tomorrow will be another day, some more motos to go and a lot guys (and girls in WMX) are capable of winning. Would be awesome for me if the winners tomorrow are the same as today. Cant wait for the livestream!!

Funny thing is, there are just three german riders in the field (Nagl in MX1; Roczen and Schiffer in MX2). We dont have a wide range of fast riders, but the ones we have are damn fast this year. I wonder where the "average" GP-Speed-Riders are in Germany...we dont have any of them.

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mccread 4/3/2010 10:53am
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Albertson 17th. What happened?

The field is very very deep, Jimmy cold get 10th or 17th and be riding about the same speed.

Roczen is looking good, impressed with Herlings too, looking forward to the racing tomorrow!
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 10:53am
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mxmasta wrote:
Hmm i like what i see... All three top spots of the different classes show a german rider. But tomorrow will be another day, some more...
Hmm i like what i see...
All three top spots of the different classes show a german rider.
But tomorrow will be another day, some more motos to go and a lot guys (and girls in WMX) are capable of winning. Would be awesome for me if the winners tomorrow are the same as today. Cant wait for the livestream!!

Funny thing is, there are just three german riders in the field (Nagl in MX1; Roczen and Schiffer in MX2). We dont have a wide range of fast riders, but the ones we have are damn fast this year. I wonder where the "average" GP-Speed-Riders are in Germany...we dont have any of them.

Yep---Germany flat out dominated yesterday.. Germany is on both poles and Sefy Laier the German girl whooped the girls by 18 seconds in the first moto of the girls...If I was German I'd be feeling pretty damn good after the first Saturday at the GP's..
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2Smoke 4/3/2010 10:56am
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that track is very pretty...these guys are going to hate glen helen
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mxmasta 4/3/2010 11:02am
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Yep---Germany flat out dominated yesterday.. Germany is on both poles and Sefy Laier the German girl whooped the girls by 18 seconds in the first moto...
Yep---Germany flat out dominated yesterday.. Germany is on both poles and Sefy Laier the German girl whooped the girls by 18 seconds in the first moto of the girls...If I was German I'd be feeling pretty damn good after the first Saturday at the GP's..
Well as you say, its just the first Saturday of a long season.
But yeah, right now it feels good :-)
Lets see what the Sunday-Races bring!
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2Smoke wrote:
that track is very pretty...these guys are going to hate glen helen
wait the race day to take conclusions..
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hartebreak 4/3/2010 11:11am
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2Smoke wrote:
that track is very pretty...these guys are going to hate glen helen
Not sure why you would say that. Glen Helen is definately rough by US standards but doesnt hold a candle to some of the hell on earth stuff those GP riders go thru.
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is Shaun Simpson healthy this season?
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 12:57pm
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2Smoke wrote:
that track is very pretty...these guys are going to hate glen helen
hartebreak wrote:
Not sure why you would say that. Glen Helen is definately rough by US standards but doesnt hold a candle to some of the hell on...
Not sure why you would say that. Glen Helen is definately rough by US standards but doesnt hold a candle to some of the hell on earth stuff those GP riders go thru.
Hartebreak.. I agree with the fact that GP tracks have been way rougher then most AMA tracks but Glen Helen was as rough as 99% of the GP tracks last year. The only GP track that was way rougher then GH was Lierop. That track is a beast. I remember thinking while watching it that I'd have to train for a 2 lap race there. Every other ama track besides GH were freeways in comparison the GP tracks. Also when drawing your comparison take in mind the hills at GH and how much going up and down those beasts takes out of you. If you've never been to GH you can't grasp how big they are. Pictures and TV don't get close to showing how big they are either. The braking bumps going down them alone will drain the common man.


Whats crazy is that has gone full circle in the last 10 yrs or so. I remember it used to be the exact opposite. Back in the day the GPs were allot smoother and worked on more then the AMA tracks. For some reason the ama and whatever promoters have decided doing track work after every moro has made for better racing and TV viewing. I totally disagree and wish they'd stop working on the tracks after every moto.
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hartebreak 4/3/2010 1:18pm
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I used to live in Apple Valley before moving to Oregon, I have been to many races at GH. It definately is rough but to say the GP riders are going to hate GH is a bit of a stretch. Kinda miss the GH nats, now I only get the one at Shougs, and from what Im hearing Shougs may be on its way out too.
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DanDunes818 4/3/2010 1:29pm
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hartebreak wrote:
I used to live in Apple Valley before moving to Oregon, I have been to many races at GH. It definately is rough but to say...
I used to live in Apple Valley before moving to Oregon, I have been to many races at GH. It definately is rough but to say the GP riders are going to hate GH is a bit of a stretch. Kinda miss the GH nats, now I only get the one at Shougs, and from what Im hearing Shougs may be on its way out too.
I agree with that too. A good portion of Viatl posters have never watched a GP race and have no respect for the GP series. If the person that posted that had ever watched a GP they would know better. The GP promoters pride themselves in rough tracks. they do very little if any work on the track all weekend long. If the guy that posted that GH will be rougher then what GP riders are used to is reading this he should click the link I'm putting in this post. I don't think the GP riders will hate GH. In fact I think the exact opposite. I think they'll love the place. I read some comments from various GP riders that say they are very much looking forward to it.

Here's a real mx track. As rough as it gets. Here's the 2nd mx2 moto at Lierop. Remember the mx 1 second moto was after this with no track work. I couldn't find mx 1 moto 2 though.



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the_wood109 4/3/2010 1:47pm
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That is certainly a rough track but it is sand....

can't really be compared to GH, IMO

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