Roczen and Musquin racing for US @ MXDN

RichardLoots 6/20/2018 10:04am
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I want American citizens to win it for the US and if they are American citizens, and they want to race, then they should have the...
I want American citizens to win it for the US and if they are American citizens, and they want to race, then they should have the opportunity.

Act like your families ass didn't come from over the pond 200 years ago.
no they didnt ... ShockedShocked not even close
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Ericrob7 6/20/2018 10:37am
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Ericrob7 wrote:
This is a dumb post. They will always race for the country they were born in, Its why its called Motocross of nations.
kage173 wrote:
Obviously you're wrong. Lots of Americans race for Puerto Rico, Dean Wilson raced for Canada and Jeff Wars raced for US (born in Scotland)
I wasn't referring to where Deano raced or Jeff Ward has raced, I was specifically talking about MM & KR who i believe have said themselves will they would race for France/Germany.
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Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
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I haven't seen any replies to my earlier question in this thread. If Kenny/Marvin truly have taken American citizenship and wanted to race for the U.S. why wouldn't we embrace that? On the other hand, if becoming citizens was purely for economic reasons I get that....double taxation, etc. I'd just like to hear them state how they feel about the subject. It certainly appears that they COULD represent the states if asked and were so inclined. Note: Unless you are Native American....the "wasn't born here or haven't been here long enough" just won't play.

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rosebud441 6/20/2018 3:39pm
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Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
you would still have douchebags chanting U.S.A. and barking at him to go home... really
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plowboy 6/20/2018 3:44pm
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Not completely off topic but I did talk to Roger about taking U.S. citizenship. He said he just embraced the American freedoms and lifestyle but did say the wages and taxation rate were big factors as well. He added that if he had major health issues he would return to Europe. He feels the cost and quality of care is better there. If I see him this summer I will ask him if he had become a citizen during his racing career...would he have ridden for the USA?
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I fucking hate click bait. Don't bring that shit here
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And why not Ferrandis in MX2?
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
John desoto
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Richard Tease II wrote:
Hasn’t Marv been screwed over by the FFM in the selection of the last MXdN’s? Imagine if Marv gave the big finger to the FFM and...
Hasn’t Marv been screwed over by the FFM in the selection of the last MXdN’s?
Imagine if Marv gave the big finger to the FFM and rode for the USA or Puerto Rico
There was a reason.

Even France doesn't want to be represented by somebody that wears cat gear.
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Still curious as to what the actual rules say. Anybody know?
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Thanks bro.
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Who cares if they chose to race it for the US and then won it for the US but they’re not American? They live here now, they make money from Racing here now, and I would argue of their dual citizenship, USA is currently primary. The way I see it, it’s kind of more fucked up for them to race it for someone else at this point. Taboo either way I guess.

Then, I know it’s been addressed before, you have our princess Tomac who turned it down for us in the past....
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Solidkm wrote:
Who cares if they chose to race it for the US and then won it for the US but they’re not American? They live here now...
Who cares if they chose to race it for the US and then won it for the US but they’re not American? They live here now, they make money from Racing here now, and I would argue of their dual citizenship, USA is currently primary. The way I see it, it’s kind of more fucked up for them to race it for someone else at this point. Taboo either way I guess.

Then, I know it’s been addressed before, you have our princess Tomac who turned it down for us in the past....
Who cares? Real fans of team USA
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Solidkm 7/3/2018 2:23pm
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Solidkm wrote:
Who cares if they chose to race it for the US and then won it for the US but they’re not American? They live here now...
Who cares if they chose to race it for the US and then won it for the US but they’re not American? They live here now, they make money from Racing here now, and I would argue of their dual citizenship, USA is currently primary. The way I see it, it’s kind of more fucked up for them to race it for someone else at this point. Taboo either way I guess.

Then, I know it’s been addressed before, you have our princess Tomac who turned it down for us in the past....
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Who cares? Real fans of team USA
It’s funny. I’m all for being ethnocentric. I’ll wave the red white and blue next to you. But when it comes to MX I don’t subscribe as much. I mean in years passed, absolutely.... dungey, RV, all day. These days, I’m sorry, I’ll take musquin and roczen over Tomac anyday. Add barcia and Anderson for MXON and that changes things a little. As far as I’m concerned theyre Americans now. I mean they race here. They’re Stars In OUR series. It’s not like we are talking about say Herlings coming here, from another series, and us rooting against the Home team. I’m sure I’m on this island alone though
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Wow, amazing that the Vitard's are considering using them damn inferior foreigners to prop up Team USA. What happened to Team America belief that their riders are the best in the world?BlushDry
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robkinuk wrote:
Wow, amazing that the Vitard's are considering using them damn inferior foreigners to prop up Team USA. What happened to Team America belief that their riders...
Wow, amazing that the Vitard's are considering using them damn inferior foreigners to prop up Team USA. What happened to Team America belief that their riders are the best in the world?BlushDry
Fake news.
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Fourth_Floor 7/3/2018 6:30pm
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
JustMX wrote:
John desoto
Wasn't he Hawaiian? I'm talking Native American Indian.

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JustMX 7/3/2018 7:12pm
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Is that not a native american?
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
rosebud441 wrote:
you would still have douchebags chanting U.S.A. and barking at him to go home... really
He’s disrespected constantly but we want him to represent us?
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Fourth_Floor wrote:
Not to completely derail that topic but has there ever been a professional motocross racer that was 100% Native American?
JustMX wrote:
John desoto
Fourth_Floor wrote:
Wasn't he Hawaiian? I'm talking Native American Indian.
Probably Honda's Tommy Croft?
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RedDirtDog 7/4/2018 3:03am
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Would be pretty cool if team france doesnt pick musquin then he decides to race for team USA with decoster and then he chants USA! with the fans on the podium Tongue
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robkinuk wrote:
Wow, amazing that the Vitard's are considering using them damn inferior foreigners to prop up Team USA. What happened to Team America belief that their riders...
Wow, amazing that the Vitard's are considering using them damn inferior foreigners to prop up Team USA. What happened to Team America belief that their riders are the best in the world?BlushDry
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Don’t worry they will be calling the race off anyway. POTUS new immigration laws keep the foreign riders out. He feels if vetted they cannot do anything for America.
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TbonesPop 7/4/2018 8:09am
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JustMX wrote:
Is that not a native american?
The native Hawaiians are kanaka maoli, which was polynesian.
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Fourth_Floor 7/4/2018 8:17am
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JustMX wrote:
Is that not a native american?
TbonesPop wrote:
The native Hawaiians are kanaka maoli, which was polynesian.
Don't feel bad JustMX.....Social Studies wasn't my strong suite in school either.
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Fourth_Floor 7/4/2018 8:28am
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JustMX wrote:
John desoto
Fourth_Floor wrote:
Wasn't he Hawaiian? I'm talking Native American Indian.
robkinuk wrote:
Probably Honda's Tommy Croft?
Nice!! Badass nickname too!! I honestly couldn't rack my brain to think of any Native American motocrossers.
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JustMX 7/4/2018 8:48am
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Well,

I Thought that they are basically a native people who had their homeland stolen from them over the last several hundred years, and ended up as an American state in the twentieth century, so, native americans.

No offense intended to any Kanata Maoli polynesians.
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Team USA, Marvin, Ken and Dylan.

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