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Honestly I hope I am wrong on this but something is going on.
I continually see talented riders putting in lackluster performances but it only appears they have these issues in the outdoor series.
I would give them the benefit of not being good outdoor riders, but most have been Champions during their amateur years, so the excuse of not riding well outdoors really doesn't cut it.
Again I hope this is not the case but it sure looks like they are looking to only compete in Supercross and if they do not ride to their potential outdoors their teams/sponsors will let them have their way.
If this is even partially correct, it is a sad day in our sport where a rider, who is just coming up, can still get a ride for SX when he does not give 100% to both series. I am sure his contractual obligations have him riding both.
Things will probably not change, as they have been the same for some time but even though these riders are talented, a performance clause relating to these issues may help them understand exactly what their job is.
Supercross AND Nationals.
Alan
I continually see talented riders putting in lackluster performances but it only appears they have these issues in the outdoor series.
I would give them the benefit of not being good outdoor riders, but most have been Champions during their amateur years, so the excuse of not riding well outdoors really doesn't cut it.
Again I hope this is not the case but it sure looks like they are looking to only compete in Supercross and if they do not ride to their potential outdoors their teams/sponsors will let them have their way.
If this is even partially correct, it is a sad day in our sport where a rider, who is just coming up, can still get a ride for SX when he does not give 100% to both series. I am sure his contractual obligations have him riding both.
Things will probably not change, as they have been the same for some time but even though these riders are talented, a performance clause relating to these issues may help them understand exactly what their job is.
Supercross AND Nationals.
Alan
We'll see how it goes, but the money is going to SX and I don't see that changing.
The Shop
The NPG or whoever needs to get some big time sponsor $$$ into the series.
SX makes them feel like rockstars, and everybody is a rockstar nowadays.
Even Stewart says "you will never see Pam Anderson at an outdoor national."
Would you say being drunk 2 nights in a row ,rolling rental cars and public indecency shows a lack of dedication ?
What ticks me off is the Mechanics,Teams & Sponsors all take it serious and lay out some pretty damm good money & effort for services that are not being rendered.
Bottom line in my opinion: What makes the glitter and glam of the supercross series are the crusty guys standing on the fence of a national that spend thousands of dollars a year on bikes, brakes, chains, boots, etc. Not some family of four that have nothing better to do on a saturday night.
first I want to be very clear that my post was not about the incident you quoted.
I do agree with the effort of others involved in a riders program, as I happen to be one of those.
I have said before that it should be mandatory that every rider spend a full week with his mechanic in the shop, the track and the truck. After spending close to 60 houirs a week with the mechanic framing, building the motors etc. etc. etc., they may have a little more appreciation for what goes into their 'ride'.
I'm sure that I am not the only one seeing these riders NOT give it their best or even 90%. Until the teams start to demand that they get what they pay for, this type of attitude will continue.
Our sport is usually very slow to stand up and make changes but it appears that a rider in demand can make changes pretty fast, not always for the good.
I don't have all the answers, there are much smarter individuals who should be able to come up with something before we ruin what is in place.
I see no reason that a team should not demand that a rider "do his job" when that is what he is being paid for.
When you look at riders like RC, Bubba, RV, RD, Stroupe, Metcalf, Weimer, Short, IT, etc. etc. (you know who is trying) it is sad to watch these new kids not even care that they look terrible not giving it their best.
Sorry for the rambling, but this is a hard pill for me to get down.
Alan
Alan
Pit Row
15 min or 7 laps at a national takes way more out of you than 20 min on a sx track
most of these guys have to pace a little or die at the end. who can all out sprint for 35 min. twice ?
most of you have no idea what its like to race one of these tracks at that level.
holy crap "it was easy to see who came to race" I cant belive how stupid some of this thred is
I think there should be a per event clause...
You perform well, you get paid well.
You get last, you walk home !
You win the purse you get a bonus. Win the title, get a big bonus...but to have a salary bigger than you ever dreamed, will make anyone, a little out of control
And it's not just them, it's the circle of friends, they choose to impress. Emig, kind of started it with the party bus. But that's another story.
is it just me or do you always come up with a negative response?
I can never tell if you are being sarcastic or just attacking with a smile.
Let me know how you really feel so I will know how to adjust my comebacks.
Alan
And for what it's worth...I have won the number one plate on a couple occasions. Once as a Professional team manager. This year, at this time, I am running second in overall in points, So yeah, I have been the best before, I've also lost several times.
My point is, if they don't have the top results they don't get the same pay.
" IT WAS MY OPINION "
Did anybody else have trouble with my post ?
every year since 1978 i totally couldn't get enough of the nationals..... this year, i could really care less what's going on in the 250's.... i really only care what's going on in the 125 class because at least the top 10 there are riding their nutz off.....
rewatch any national, from let's use 97 as an example.... you've got Fro, Dowd, Albee, The Rock, MC, Bradshaw, Henry and a half dozen others riding like their lives depended on it..... watch last weekends 250 nat, and Bubba is riding at 90%, and guys like Short and TreeSap are putting out less effort than their mechanic does changing a tire.... Alessi looks like he's riding hard..... but that's about it for the "premier" class... if they don't care how hard they ride, don't expect the public to care enough to tune in......
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