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6 mos later at my second race back I missed a shift and the guy behind my blew by so close he overlapped my bars by about six inches and just took them out of my hands ala Savatgy at Vegas courtesy of Zacho. Luckily I had reevaluated my chest pro. choice and went back to my Flak Jack. Anyway I landed exactly the same as when I separated my shoulder - again it all happened in slo mo - again I could feel my shoulder impact, I could feel the netting in my pads tighten and start to absorb the impact, I could feel my shoulder slightly bottom out and impact after the netting did its job, what I didn't feel was another damaged shoulder.
When I inspected my pads I could see the netting had ripped a bit...NICE, that would've been my tendon.
I 100% believe I would still be on the couch if not for good upper body protection.
Some of the features I like about the old school HRP's is that you can get them in clear, the large solid plates just look more protective than anything else and they have an extra rib protection belt you can get that will eliminate the risk of taking a bar to the gut. I've tested that feature a couple times once I knocked the wind out of myself so bad that without it I'm sure I would have had to get an aftermarket spleen or something. Also if you wear a Leatt you can get one that is made for it, but I don't like the look of the buckle on that one and just trimmed the standard one down a 1/4" on both sides and re-riveted the lining/padding
These guys getting injured unnecessarily need to learn to dress for the crash and not the ride. For their employers' sake, their bank account and fans sake if not their own
Some of yall really should go take a basic human anatomy class and physics 2211. Hell, go for 2212 while you're at it.
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The old chest / shoulder protectors like the fox and the hrp had a veavy duty nylon mesh that sat on your shoulder and suspended the shoulder cup a reasonable distance above it.
When the plastic shoulder cup takes a hit , it's like trying to compress a shock absorber, the mesh stretches before the plastic shoulder cup can make contact with the shoulder. It is not like having just a piece of 3 mm plastic sitting directly on top of your shoulder at all, that wouldn't do much at all to dissipate the impact. In fact those old designs did work somewhat the way a helmet is designed to work and could be improved massively with today's technology , just seems like there isn't a market for shoulder protection anymore
But as you can see it would work for moto. Once your shoulder become loose it’s very hard to get it back right without surgery.
In Deano’s Case maybe shoulder protection could have helped his bruising.
Just wearing the good ones that exists would already a big step forward. Something to consider too in favor of a rule is they are role models so it is important for kids to wear it (and for the parents to be less scared)
Motocross gear is getting like the skinny jeans tight shirt wearing crowd.. Fashion before practicality. Motocross gear needs to be made to incorporate full protection..the end..
What would happen if I took this big old rubber mallet and smacked myself in the shoulder with it?
It's hard as hell, weighs about 3/4 of a kilo and has a long handle.
I'd cause myself a serious injury that's what!
But I know I could do that with the old roost 2 strapped on cause it's got the suspension netting under the shoulder cups and would dissipate the shock. It's saved me many times, but as one other guy said, he's had injuries and always worn one, so it's not a 100% guarantee by any means
The point of the video is that wearing a protector like this is sure as hell better than not wearing one when you take a hard hit to the point of your shoulder.
Well I hope you got a laugh out of that! But the point is, that's a heavy and very hard old rubber mallet and if I did that without the roost 2 on, then I'd probably be in hospital or at least incapacitated and sore as hell for a few days.
If I had one of those newer protectors on that doesn't have a suspension mesh between the shoulder cup and the shoulder ,just some thin foam...I'd have hurt myself for sure.
Sure this silly test doesn't replicate a high impact crash like what happens when you crash, but I think it clearly demonstrates that some protection CAN BE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN NONE.
I just wish a manufacturer would apply some 21st century design to this principle and come up with a better design than this old roost 2 ,so I can replace the worn out shabby old thing with something that is actually better
Flame away, I can take it!
Some Nascar drivers hated full face helmets including Dale Jr. but after incidents Nascar finally made it mandatory that each driver wears a full face helmet.
https://www.leatt.com/shop/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/image/560x69…
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These guys don't need strength to hold onto a bike.
How strong do you think Forkner or A.C. is? They are tiny.
I watched a racer who didn't have the strength to push his bike off of himself to get out from under it without help.
I'll use the example of Mike LaRocco. He was fit, muscular, and has the record for the most starts. He had longevity because of his muscular strength. He was as strong as an ox and had muscle size. The current riders look like coat hangers with skin on them. (Less Weston Peick.) It is all about cardio and no strength. Flexibility is great but you need the muscle mass to go along with it. They hit the ground and fold up like tin foil. I agree with using an upper body protection system but it doesn't replace muscle mass to keep the joints strong and protected. Sad to say, the riders today are disposable compared to the past. No longevity. Also, if you want shoulder protection. Try one of these.
http://racerxonline.com/2018/01/17/3-on-3-questions-from-houston
Also, when shoulders and elbows are well protected, when you see it coming you are less afraid to roll a bit more (and instinctly you can reduce the force you put on the arm/hand, which avoid shoulders injuries - judo like falls). It can't always prevent, but it lower the probability.
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