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We have talked about it for years, but something needs to be done. These tracks are garbage. Not enough dirt and 450s turn the rhythms into just a few jumps. I feel like the start straight jumps over the years are almost identical. Triple here, throw table in the middle, triple out. They need to make more turns or put awkward spaces in between the jumps to change it up. As hyped as I am for supercross to start its already getting boring in my opinion.
https://youtu.be/SMNXxi0s5Bs
then they shut off.
The Shop
No jumps, no sand, no tufblocks, no flaggers = no complaints
What would have taken 3 or 4 leaps in the past are now done in 2. Everyone is so good that they are all doing the same rhythm.
I dont know what the answer is, but the tracks need to change. Steeper jumps, not going up and down 6 lanes, obstacles we havent seen in awhile (steep-ass step up/down), but something that isnt the congo line that it is today
The tracks SUCK.
with "standardized" distances and obstacles, these guys have replicated the obstacles at home and 1/2 of the obstacles are for show as the winner AND the lcq racer are hitting the same rhythms. That's why you get 40s lap times.
The solution is odd-ball distances between obstacles, turns, and jumps that allow the top guys to go big, and the lcq guys to be more reserved. But they won't. And they'll just keep losing viewers.
How about dogs on chains? They have to ride through a series of snarling dogs.
Shot of tequila a lap? That might be better than a rhythm section, huh?
Guaran-fucking-t we would have better racing than the standard obstacle tracks we have seen lately.
That would increase lap times
Pit Row
Literally not a single interesting rhythm section. 100% cookie cutter.
Need some inspiration? Watch ANY race between 1998 and 2009. Remember the rider designed tracks in '09 anyone? St Louis?
as much as people can go around with this, it will always end up on the accepting that the 450s have outgrown the possibilities of building a track inside a baseball/football arena ....
in the 450 class everybody does the same combinations, rarely we see something that only the best can attempt, but in the 250 class it is normal for that to happen, and thats what makes the 250 racing much more intense and exciting....
Look, it’s clear, you don’t have a problem with the tracks.
I haven't seen it
1. They really need to bring back elevated corners that are off-camber and no berm on the outsite, I have no idea why these went away right around 2010.
2. Moguls. yes they kind of go down to one line, however if they block lines in practice they could force them to create multiple lines.
3. Fingers, I still remember (Thrills spills n chills, jeff wards crash out of them)
4. They need to interrupt turns because of the bikes powers... so say if its a 180 degree turn, they need to add about a bike length of flat surface approx 6 to 7ft the middle part will have no berm....so make the turn 90degree flat then another 90degree...(with a turn like that on a dirtbike you open up about 4 to 6 passing/ blockpass/re-pass/takeout options).
5. On the exit of some turns put in a sharp tall whoop, that the rider will have to wheelie over, or lose alot of time going up and over... like a smaller wall.. ( I hate the big walls because they become 1 lined) but no matter what it messes up the timing for the next section.
- Part of me really believes the tracks are this lame is because Feld wants a controlled cost on dirt for planning reasons.
Also with track design, they need to do more split sections with different timings that equal the exact time <----- (This would require actual testing somewhere)
1. It will cost money.
2. Im not in the industry to have a say so.
3. People dont like change.
Would love to see them replicate some of those tracks..
That year where the pros designed the tracks was great too!
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