Rekluse Radius X / CX ? Any users for MX?

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10/1/2017 4:59pm Edited Date/Time 10/2/2019 5:16am
I have an 18 CRF450 and having clutch issues and I’m thinking about making the switch to a Rekluse.

Anyone using one for mx ? Complaints ? Thoughts?
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I have a Radius X insert and clutch pack matched to a complete GYTR clutch assembly on my 09 YZ 250f I recently built. I'm not MX'ing it, cross-country riding but it's fairly aggressive riding. I like the Rekluse Radius X, I have tried their other clutch offerings and didn't care for them or maybe how my friends had them set up? It's worth the gamble.
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Wondering how it compares to a core exp 3.0.

Had one on my 250f and it was the best thing I've ever done. Now on a yz250 and just can't fork out the 1400 bucks for another one.
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Im a half woods, half mx guy. The last Rekluse I owned was 8 years ago and I swore I would never own another as I didnt like the engagement lag on the track. My 17 350 suffered from frequent flameouts, so I tried the Radius CX. Im very happy with it, no more flameouts, and any engagement lag no longer exists.
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I have used the EXP 3.0 with great results on mx. ( You can get it at a lower cost that the complete Core version.)

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You can adjust the clutch to your liking. They are awesome! Radius x for Moto would be a great setup. You have a bit less engine braking, but no stalling and a stock-like clutch pull along with the other benefits of the Rekluse would all be a home fun for you I am sure.
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Ive got the radius cx in my 18 crf450 had it in since day 1 and now at 18 hrs.once dialed in it has required no adjustments, clutch feel is standard and it doesnt fade with abuse.it uses the torq drive plates and bites much like a torq drive clutch,it has a ton less slippage than the 3.0 exp core(i had one) engine breaking seams normal as well.if you need to adjust its quite simple.there best auto clutch by far.i have added the hinson clutch cable bracket and it makes the oull even more direct.id recomend that even with the atock clutch that bracket flexs way to much.

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cruiser450 wrote:
Ive got the radius cx in my 18 crf450 had it in since day 1 and now at 18 hrs.once dialed in it has required no...
Ive got the radius cx in my 18 crf450 had it in since day 1 and now at 18 hrs.once dialed in it has required no adjustments, clutch feel is standard and it doesnt fade with abuse.it uses the torq drive plates and bites much like a torq drive clutch,it has a ton less slippage than the 3.0 exp core(i had one) engine breaking seams normal as well.if you need to adjust its quite simple.there best auto clutch by far.i have added the hinson clutch cable bracket and it makes the oull even more direct.id recomend that even with the atock clutch that bracket flexs way to much.

Awesome man, so you've owned both?

Why do you think they would they continue to sell the core exp 3.0 when the radius is literally less than half the price yet does the same, if not better job?

I feel like there's something I'm missing, like the core exp doesn't fade or is of better quality?
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cruiser450 wrote:
Ive got the radius cx in my 18 crf450 had it in since day 1 and now at 18 hrs.once dialed in it has required no...
Ive got the radius cx in my 18 crf450 had it in since day 1 and now at 18 hrs.once dialed in it has required no adjustments, clutch feel is standard and it doesnt fade with abuse.it uses the torq drive plates and bites much like a torq drive clutch,it has a ton less slippage than the 3.0 exp core(i had one) engine breaking seams normal as well.if you need to adjust its quite simple.there best auto clutch by far.i have added the hinson clutch cable bracket and it makes the oull even more direct.id recomend that even with the atock clutch that bracket flexs way to much.

Do you ride MX?
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Where can you find the radius cx for half the price of a 3.0 core? I'd put one on my 17 fx350 if it was $450.
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I only ride moto,i just sold my 250 and it had the 3.0 exp core in it for 90hrs,and prior to that it had the basic exp in it in which i did not like.I did find the core exp 3.0 got soft as i abused it (on the 250)but it never slipped more then how it was set(thats the free play gain).if you have never run a rekluse then the 3.0 core setup is great i just find the 450s extra jam would favour the high end one with more clamping force.
my understanding is the the radius x acts like the cheaper exp ring style with the hard clutch lever with no freeplay and is adjustable at the perch(ktm and husq are at the slave).i cant stand the lever like that felt like concrete.the cx has full adjustability and can be set internally so you have normal clutch feel and adjustability at the lever BUT you can also adjust it like the cheaper version as well and have it function that way if you choose,and you get a few other billet parts,metal plates and cover and such in the cx.

I asked all these questions when buying it,bottom line is i wanted the best version avail to handle the torque of the 450 and in my experiance so far this cx does just that and seams as if the clamping force(hit) is well above the 3.0 version.the ktm and husqy could run the radius x and get away with it as its hydraulic clytch and the adj slave rekluse gives you makes it a better feel then the cables models.

Email rekluse and ask about the lever feel,thats the big issue with many of the guys buying them.much like the 3.0 vs just the exp.

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10/2/2017 1:43pm
cruiser450 wrote:
I only ride moto,i just sold my 250 and it had the 3.0 exp core in it for 90hrs,and prior to that it had the basic...
I only ride moto,i just sold my 250 and it had the 3.0 exp core in it for 90hrs,and prior to that it had the basic exp in it in which i did not like.I did find the core exp 3.0 got soft as i abused it (on the 250)but it never slipped more then how it was set(thats the free play gain).if you have never run a rekluse then the 3.0 core setup is great i just find the 450s extra jam would favour the high end one with more clamping force.
my understanding is the the radius x acts like the cheaper exp ring style with the hard clutch lever with no freeplay and is adjustable at the perch(ktm and husq are at the slave).i cant stand the lever like that felt like concrete.the cx has full adjustability and can be set internally so you have normal clutch feel and adjustability at the lever BUT you can also adjust it like the cheaper version as well and have it function that way if you choose,and you get a few other billet parts,metal plates and cover and such in the cx.

I asked all these questions when buying it,bottom line is i wanted the best version avail to handle the torque of the 450 and in my experiance so far this cx does just that and seams as if the clamping force(hit) is well above the 3.0 version.the ktm and husqy could run the radius x and get away with it as its hydraulic clytch and the adj slave rekluse gives you makes it a better feel then the cables models.

Email rekluse and ask about the lever feel,thats the big issue with many of the guys buying them.much like the 3.0 vs just the exp.

Sounds like the CX is really nice. Are you able to adjust these things to eliminate or dramatically reduce engine braking?
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walleyeguy wrote:
Where can you find the radius cx for half the price of a 3.0 core? I'd put one on my 17 fx350 if it was $450.
He is probably thinking Radius at $599. Not the Radius X.
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tobz wrote:
Wondering how it compares to a core exp 3.0. Had one on my 250f and it was the best thing I've ever done. Now on a...
Wondering how it compares to a core exp 3.0.

Had one on my 250f and it was the best thing I've ever done. Now on a yz250 and just can't fork out the 1400 bucks for another one.
No reason you should be paying more than $999 for any Rekluse
10/2/2017 3:46pm
I race motocross with an EXP 3.0 and it's like cheating. When I get around to buying a 2018 CRF450R, the Radius CX will be the first purchase I make.
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walleyeguy wrote:
Where can you find the radius cx for half the price of a 3.0 core? I'd put one on my 17 fx350 if it was $450.
Sorry your right, I was a couple of hundred off

Radius X is $969AUD and a core exp 3.0 is $1390

Still makes my question valid though
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tobz wrote:
Wondering how it compares to a core exp 3.0. Had one on my 250f and it was the best thing I've ever done. Now on a...
Wondering how it compares to a core exp 3.0.

Had one on my 250f and it was the best thing I've ever done. Now on a yz250 and just can't fork out the 1400 bucks for another one.
Cygrace74 wrote:
No reason you should be paying more than $999 for any Rekluse
See above.
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I just installed the Rekluse CX in my 2017 KX 450F. I love the Rekluse so far. Installation was simply, but I did have to go back under the clutch cover to adjust for free play gain. I had none with instruction setting. At the track did the break in on the start straight. I did find that at the end of break in I was hammering the rear brake as I let off the throttle and the bike stalled a couple times. I took the bike out onto the track and noticed a huge difference in how I could ride the bike. I could honestly say I don’t know how a serious A class rider would benefit from it. I can definitely see how older beginner intermediate and/or Vet riders enjoy the Rekluse. Especially on the 450s.
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Just ordered a Radius CX for my 2018 KTM 350SXF. Im 90/10 Moto to trails. It will be my 1st Rekluse. I'm excited to get it installed and tested.
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I installed a Radius CX in my '17 KTM 350SXF about 4-5 weeks ago. I ride 100% mx, not really into trails. I have several practice days and a race day at Hangtown on it now. Bottom line, this clutch is awesome. I am running the default engagement spring setup and there is really no 'lag' in engagement that I can feel. It feels just like the stock clutch to me but helps me out when I get tired or make a mistake. On my 350, I'd say 1-3 times where I might be at a practice track I'll flame out in a corner from being in too tall of a gear and/or braking too hard into the corner. As you'd expect, that becomes a non-issue with the Rekluse.

Like FFDan said, I'm not sure if a top intermediate or expert rider would benefit from the clutch very much. But for me, as a slow intermediate vet rider, it's perfect. It let's me focus more on the corner itself whereas before I had to be more conscious about gear selection, clutch modulation, RPM with the 350. Now I can just focus on trying to enter with more speed, pick my spot in the corner to sit and throttle out. Call it a band-aid or whatever you want, I'm 40 and just trying to have fun and get a little faster here and there so I'll take the help I can get.
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Are these the auto clutches where you can't stall the engine?
I ride the A class and Ive never used anything but OEM and years ago an OEM with an aftermarket basket..

Whats the difference when it comes to all of these clutch versions? I'm intrigued to know more.
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Yeah the Radius CX brought up in the topic is an auto clutch and since running it my bike has never stalled. It uses their 'torque drive' clutch plates and apparently can take a lot of abuse. The 'torque drive' clutch alone is Rekluse's upgraded manual clutch. I believe the Core EXP 3.0 is the last auto clutch version prior to the Radius and uses stock clutch plates if I'm not mistaken. There have been other prior versions and more budget-minded versions to the auto clutch line but I think the EXP 3.0 and now the Radius CX stand out as the best. I'm sure a lot of these other guys who have tried prior versions can weigh in with more info.
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I have the torqdrive ( i think?) on my Crf450 -18, busted 4 stock clutches on my -17 so i hope this goes better, only have 4 hours on it so far but no problems yet.
Great feel and it hasnt faded a bit and i have only ridden deep sand tracks.
4/17/2018 11:23am
Just purchased a radius cx on Sunday. Comes in this Friday. I ride trails so it's a must have. Excited to try it out. The radius x vs radius cx is the x used stock basket and cover. Cx uses rekluse basket, pressure plate, and cover. For $400 it's worth it for what you get IMO.
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Ive got a cx in my 18 crf450 with 38 hrs, there was a update to the first kits with the red lock pin for just the new crf450, i installed mine in sept and the pin broke causing some issues and rekluse sent me a updated full new cx kit.since then ive put 20 hrs on it and its been flawless with no adjustment needed.much better then the 3.0 exp version.

Used for moto 100%

Ive got photos of the parts issue on the laptop i can post later.

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Well I guess the pro riders approve
4/24/2018 1:46pm
Installed mine last night. Went in easy, adjustment was simple. Will give a ride report on Sat. Worked as advertised in my driveway.

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