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11/9/2019 2:18 PM

Browsing the net i found this pic maybe its a preview of the new gasgas(ktm)

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11/9/2019 3:30 PM

Well the bike appears to be at a show booth for R-tech MX. From a quick internet search it appears that they sell allot of plastics kits so I’m going to assume it’s just red plastics for a KTM. Nothing more.

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11/9/2019 4:56 PM

Which designer do we need to fire for picking 04 for a number? You had one job!

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11/11/2019 10:24 AM

fullfloater wrote:

Which designer do we need to fire for picking 04 for a number? You had one job!

Just 4 is already taken by Brake Bracket

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11/11/2019 10:48 AM

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

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11/11/2019 11:00 AM

fullfloater wrote:

Which designer do we need to fire for picking 04 for a number? You had one job!

The designer was probably inspired by Factory Ducati's top MXGP rider Andrea Dovizioso.
He's fast on his SXF-250:

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11/11/2019 11:25 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2019 11:25 AM

ga_pike wrote:

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

There's no way KTM group can have an all new, proper competitive GasGas bike ready for next year. They can't just slab red plastics on a ktm and call it a GasGas. Production rule and all that.

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11/11/2019 11:37 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2019 11:38 AM

ga_pike wrote:

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

Ray_MXS wrote:

There's no way KTM group can have an all new, proper competitive GasGas bike ready for next year. They can't just slab red plastics on a ktm and call it a GasGas. Production rule and all that.

They can call it a KTM on paperwork but the bike can say GasGas on the side. So can the Semi. nothing in the rulebook that says you have to use OEM Shaped plastics. they could design new body work to bolt right up to a current KTM/Husky

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11/11/2019 11:41 AM

ga_pike wrote:

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

Ray_MXS wrote:

There's no way KTM group can have an all new, proper competitive GasGas bike ready for next year. They can't just slab red plastics on a ktm and call it a GasGas. Production rule and all that.

Kennyfreemoney wrote:

They can call it a KTM on paperwork but the bike can say GasGas on the side. So can the Semi. nothing in the rulebook that says you have to use OEM Shaped plastics. they could design new body work to bolt right up to a current KTM/Husky

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

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11/11/2019 11:44 AM

Ray_MXS wrote:

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

You might be surprised to know that occasionally the brand name doesnt match the product the pros are using.

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11/11/2019 11:50 AM

Ray_MXS wrote:

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

What do you think husqvarna is?

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11/11/2019 11:50 AM

colintrax wrote:

You might be surprised to know that occasionally the brand name doesnt match the product the pros are using.

Occasionally ! 🤣🤣🤣

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11/11/2019 12:03 PM

Kennyfreemoney wrote:

They can call it a KTM on paperwork but the bike can say GasGas on the side. So can the Semi. nothing in the rulebook that says you have to use OEM Shaped plastics. they could design new body work to bolt right up to a current KTM/Husky

Ray_MXS wrote:

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

snackfedbear wrote:

What do you think husqvarna is?

Don't be stupid.

Homologation rules and all that.

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11/11/2019 12:11 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/11/2019 12:13 PM

Ray_MXS wrote:

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

What do you think the official full factory Gas Gas Dakar team was already doing with their KTMs?



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11/11/2019 12:21 PM

ga_pike wrote:

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

Ray_MXS wrote:

There's no way KTM group can have an all new, proper competitive GasGas bike ready for next year. They can't just slab red plastics on a ktm and call it a GasGas. Production rule and all that.

No such rules in GP’s

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11/11/2019 12:26 PM

ga_pike wrote:

I thought I read somewhere that GG was shooting for 2020 MX. I wonder if that is true. Might be an opportunity for Tickle if he looks good in his return to SX.

Ray_MXS wrote:

There's no way KTM group can have an all new, proper competitive GasGas bike ready for next year. They can't just slab red plastics on a ktm and call it a GasGas. Production rule and all that.

I understand what you are saying but why not? If they wanted, they could release a number of red KTM's with Gas Gas badging in the US simply to meet the rules. Didn't they do similar for the first year Husky before starting separate development? Maybe I remember that wrong.

Anyway, it was just a thought for how to get the brand into the US racing quickly.

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11/11/2019 12:32 PM

ga_pike wrote:

I understand what you are saying but why not? If they wanted, they could release a number of red KTM's with Gas Gas badging in the US simply to meet the rules. Didn't they do similar for the first year Husky before starting separate development? Maybe I remember that wrong.

Anyway, it was just a thought for how to get the brand into the US racing quickly.

Yeah I guess. It just feels very wrong.

I hope I'm wrong. More teams are just good.

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11/12/2019 3:42 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/12/2019 3:42 AM

Yes it says racetech on the bike so thats a given , but this thread was more about getting a glimpse in to the future on how the gasgas bikes may look. Since ktm have stated that they are gone be basically a ktm

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11/12/2019 6:20 AM

They already were, anyway.



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11/12/2019 6:28 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/12/2019 6:36 AM

This is the 2020 and maybe last Gas Gas as we know it now.


edit ktm interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=109&v=FKS1p_zhrJk&feature=emb_logo

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11/12/2019 6:36 PM

Ktm Fielding a red colored bike will literally complete their takeover of the sport. After they went to orange I always thought, why not just go to red like Honda. The red plastics look far better than almost every orange ktm I have ever seen. And a name like gas gas. The potential is huge. Perhaps in the future when all bikes we buy are electric we will get our gas in the name lol.

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11/13/2019 1:58 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/13/2019 2:02 AM

fullfloater wrote:

Which designer do we need to fire for picking 04 for a number? You had one job!

#434 wrote:

The designer was probably inspired by Factory Ducati's top MXGP rider Andrea Dovizioso.
He's fast on his SXF-250:

I'm happy to fire Dovizioso's designer as well. Looks like somebody tried to put 40 on the plates but drank a crate first.

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11/13/2019 3:14 AM

fullfloater wrote:

I'm happy to fire Dovizioso's designer as well. Looks like somebody tried to put 40 on the plates but drank a crate first.

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11/13/2019 4:48 AM

metal_miracle wrote:

This is the 2020 and maybe last Gas Gas as we know it now.


edit ktm interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=109&v=FKS1p_zhrJk&feature=emb_logo

Looks like they were already using WP frame and swingarm with KYB suspension.

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11/13/2019 5:15 AM

Ray_MXS wrote:

Hmm yeah well maybe. But that bike wouldn't be a GasGas, it would be a KTM with different plastics. I don't know what falls under false advertising, especially when it's the same company, but if isn't actually a GasGas, it doesn't seem right they are allowed to put GasGas logos all over it.

You mean like the exact thing Gas Gas has been doing in Dakar for years?

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11/13/2019 5:16 AM

LungButter wrote:

You mean like the exact thing Gas Gas has been doing in Dakar for years?

Yeah I didn't know about that. Seems wierd to me.

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11/13/2019 5:49 AM

Little by little and bit by bit, the silly, conformist concept that a Honda is red and a Yamaha is dark blue and a KTM is orange and a Kawi is light green - is going bye-bye. And to that I say hallelujah! The color of the plastics/graphics on any given bike should be determined by it's owner, NOT by it's manufacturer. There should be as many options open to us as the market/aftermarket will bear, and not just regarding the color of the plastic, but the SHAPE of it as well. The OEM's have done a very good job of making us believe otherwise, and far too many of us remain gullible and still see our little world as needing to be rigidly orthodox....... but the times they are a-changin'.

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11/13/2019 7:04 AM

Silas444 wrote:

Little by little and bit by bit, the silly, conformist concept that a Honda is red and a Yamaha is dark blue and a KTM is orange and a Kawi is light green - is going bye-bye. And to that I say hallelujah! The color of the plastics/graphics on any given bike should be determined by it's owner, NOT by it's manufacturer. There should be as many options open to us as the market/aftermarket will bear, and not just regarding the color of the plastic, but the SHAPE of it as well. The OEM's have done a very good job of making us believe otherwise, and far too many of us remain gullible and still see our little world as needing to be rigidly orthodox....... but the times they are a-changin'.

How are little moto kids going to learn colors? Cause that's how my dad taught me.

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