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We do sometimes talk about how expensive our sport is and how difficult for some privateers is to do an entire season. Not to mention the hard time some pro teams have when looking for support for the next seasson -Ex. Suzuki JGR loosing Yoshimura-
When a sponsor shows up, it's usually related to the sport. When an outside sponsor shows up, it doesn't usually stay for too long. Reason why? Not enough exposure of his product?
Recently we've seen love/hate with the example above but the truth is that as more space you give the sponsor to show his logo, the happier he is going to be... motogp kinda design.
Currently, a rider is showing his number in 4 places -rear plate left, rear plate right, front plate and back of the jersey-. These 4 places are probably the most visible ones in supercross -except for the helmet-. Is it really necesary for a rider to show his number that much? Pretty sure they wouldn't mind leaving some of that space for a sponsor to help him finacially.
There's been a 50%50% sometimes, only mx I believe:
Above, examples of years ago. Not every sponsor came from the industry. Most of them were non related to the sport. When did this happen? Well, there hasn't been that much exposure in a bike for a brand since then... coincidence?
And so on...
Luongo want's MXGP to be like MotoGP. How many classes are there? Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP... Do they identify them with black/white/red backgrounds behind their numbers? No. The riders numbers is not a priority for them. They have way more space in their bikes than us in motocross, and they even don't waste their space with big numbers or white/black backgrounds. They integrate them into the bike design:
In motocross we do get dirty and so on, visibility is lower than in motogp. In motocross we do give the front of the jersey to the sponsors which is the part that gets more dirty. In the back of the jessey is where the number is which is the part that stay cleaner. Does it make sense? How much money do the rider number bring to the team? How much money do a sponsor bring? In the opposite side, in motogp they give all the space to sponsor but the buttpatch:
In Formula 1 they don't care about the drivers numbers. The know the importance of logo placement.
Luongo knows the importance of logo placement as he puts high banners all around the tracks making the spectators who paid the ticket not able to almost anything
So... big logos around the tracks but not on the bikes?
{poll:813}
When a sponsor shows up, it's usually related to the sport. When an outside sponsor shows up, it doesn't usually stay for too long. Reason why? Not enough exposure of his product?
Recently we've seen love/hate with the example above but the truth is that as more space you give the sponsor to show his logo, the happier he is going to be... motogp kinda design.
Currently, a rider is showing his number in 4 places -rear plate left, rear plate right, front plate and back of the jersey-. These 4 places are probably the most visible ones in supercross -except for the helmet-. Is it really necesary for a rider to show his number that much? Pretty sure they wouldn't mind leaving some of that space for a sponsor to help him finacially.
There's been a 50%50% sometimes, only mx I believe:
Above, examples of years ago. Not every sponsor came from the industry. Most of them were non related to the sport. When did this happen? Well, there hasn't been that much exposure in a bike for a brand since then... coincidence?
And so on...
Luongo want's MXGP to be like MotoGP. How many classes are there? Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP... Do they identify them with black/white/red backgrounds behind their numbers? No. The riders numbers is not a priority for them. They have way more space in their bikes than us in motocross, and they even don't waste their space with big numbers or white/black backgrounds. They integrate them into the bike design:
In motocross we do get dirty and so on, visibility is lower than in motogp. In motocross we do give the front of the jersey to the sponsors which is the part that gets more dirty. In the back of the jessey is where the number is which is the part that stay cleaner. Does it make sense? How much money do the rider number bring to the team? How much money do a sponsor bring? In the opposite side, in motogp they give all the space to sponsor but the buttpatch:
In Formula 1 they don't care about the drivers numbers. The know the importance of logo placement.
Luongo knows the importance of logo placement as he puts high banners all around the tracks making the spectators who paid the ticket not able to almost anything
So... big logos around the tracks but not on the bikes?
{poll:813}
Poll
Im fine with front number plate and jersey only for numbers. Do whatever on the side panels.
in MotoGP the riders have distinct color ways, Valentino in his trademark yellow, Lorenzo in red, Etc.
The Shop
Yeah, there are rules. But rules can be changed. Just want to see with this post if you guys would like these rules to be changed. If you would like to see more space available for logos.
I was thinking it was maybe 2009 or 2012 or somewhere in there but I can't remember.
Just like those Slater Skins, the small or absent numbers seem like a good idea (financially) but they just don't work for the racers and the fans.
Eventually, we'll all have some kind of augmented reality chip implant, or some Google-Glasses that overlay the sponsors in our field of view as we watch the race live. (By we, I mean everyone but me
I think the plate on the front and the number on the back is enough since they have transponders anyways for muddy days.
Look at the issue Reed had with his Helmet cam sponsor, Wilson with Ignite.
If AMA allowed riders to have more freedom wit sponsor choice instead of the whole major sponsors taking control.
We are however wasting our breath, tradition and resistance to change outweighs good sense.
Rider's are the main character and they are under represented. Manufacturer's and Sponsors all get their name plastered everywhere, but the rider gets a number like a prisoner.
Overall l think American moto is too up tight. I'd have no problem with a shake up.
Pit Row
I'm not sure of the GP rules now, but think in at least one Moto at the Turkish MXGP, Bogers of Team Honda in the MXGP class had blank side plates. I'm not 100% sure of that, as I only saw a bit of it on a small screen, after I stayed up all night through to daylight watching AFT, that Hillbilly forced me to watch .......
I think a major part of why the 'skins' set ups ( that have been around for Decades) just haven't caught on, is manufacturers - with major and smaller teams, and even semi backed shop teams and privateers who get bikes for free or at great discounts - requirement is that they keep stock shaped / silhouette bodywork. Not to mention mechanical access - be it perceived or real. Heat dispertion is a very valid concern too.
And, of course, that so many owners of bikes do not find them to their liking........
My .02 is run sponsors logos as much as possible. The riders run transponders anyway right? Then after the race run sponsors list for the rider being interviewed down one side of the screen and let the rider talk about the race instead of spending his time thanking sponsors. That’s what THIS fan would like to see.
Remember when the lap scoring was done by a few dedicated volunteers writing down your number as you came past?
Surely everyone at some stage had the number nazi lady who whinged about your font choice because "is that a 7 or a 1?" as you wheeled through scrutineering?
Good luck with that!
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It Seems Rear number plates keep getting smaller and smaller, maybe they could make a certain size (bigger) mandatory and then leave the option for up to 50% ?
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