Ready for a Chinese 250 2-Stroke MX'er?

Dirty Points 10/3/2018 8:55pm
10/3/2018 8:55pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2018 8:56pm
outerlimits wrote:
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no...
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no estart, no autolube, no counterbalancer, conventional forks, ancient handling. With that said, I'd likely still line up to buy one of those new if Kawi still made them. Probably one of the best pure trail bikes ever made and one they never should have stopped making.
Msrp for the 2006 kdx 200 was 4200, and they were typically available under that. Thats 5000 cpi adjusted to 2018.
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wfo4ever 10/3/2018 9:05pm
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Sorry, not interested. Just Say No To Chinese products. You get what you pay for and do not even bother trying to find parts.
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outerlimits 10/3/2018 9:31pm
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outerlimits wrote:
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no...
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no estart, no autolube, no counterbalancer, conventional forks, ancient handling. With that said, I'd likely still line up to buy one of those new if Kawi still made them. Probably one of the best pure trail bikes ever made and one they never should have stopped making.
Dirty Points wrote:
Msrp for the 2006 kdx 200 was 4200, and they were typically available under that. Thats 5000 cpi adjusted to 2018.
Yeah, I get that, but the closer comparison is the 220. From all the reports I've heard, the GPX bike makes very similar power to what the KDX220 did.
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ctbale 10/3/2018 11:45pm
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Dirty Points 10/4/2018 6:39am
10/4/2018 6:39am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2018 6:39am
outerlimits wrote:
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no...
The last KDX220 would be $5800 today if left completely unchanged from 2005. Still would be a nice bike to have at that price, but no estart, no autolube, no counterbalancer, conventional forks, ancient handling. With that said, I'd likely still line up to buy one of those new if Kawi still made them. Probably one of the best pure trail bikes ever made and one they never should have stopped making.
Dirty Points wrote:
Msrp for the 2006 kdx 200 was 4200, and they were typically available under that. Thats 5000 cpi adjusted to 2018.
outerlimits wrote:
Yeah, I get that, but the closer comparison is the 220. From all the reports I've heard, the GPX bike makes very similar power to what...
Yeah, I get that, but the closer comparison is the 220. From all the reports I've heard, the GPX bike makes very similar power to what the KDX220 did.
Just to be clear, the 220 was the milder tuned, less powerful model of the two.
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outerlimits 10/4/2018 8:16am
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Dirty Points wrote:
Msrp for the 2006 kdx 200 was 4200, and they were typically available under that. Thats 5000 cpi adjusted to 2018.
outerlimits wrote:
Yeah, I get that, but the closer comparison is the 220. From all the reports I've heard, the GPX bike makes very similar power to what...
Yeah, I get that, but the closer comparison is the 220. From all the reports I've heard, the GPX bike makes very similar power to what the KDX220 did.
Dirty Points wrote:
Just to be clear, the 220 was the milder tuned, less powerful model of the two.
Not sure I would call it less powerful, it was just all bottom and midrange like the GPX. The 200 reved out a bit more. The 200 is a good bike, I have one in the garage, but the 220 was the better bike for riding the gnar. The KDX was 218cc, the GPX is 224cc. A current owner changed his jetting a bit and added a different CDI and he says it's incredible now. Bills Pipes is also working on a single walled pipe to do away with the double walled version. The double walled version on the KDX robbed lots of power. We replaced ours with an FMF gnarly and couldn't believe how much heavier the stock pipe was. The stock GPX pipe is built the same way now as it was when the engine was in a Yamaha dual sport so there is lots to gain there as well.
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magoo1982 10/4/2018 9:09am
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if was new bike from Sweden or Czecho would be great , not so much china . have seen new 18 -19 rmz 450s for 5 -6k
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OLDMOTO 4/20/2019 11:09am
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Everyone seems to forget that KTM makes motorcycles in India and BMW makes motorcycle engines in China.
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GeorgiePorgie 4/20/2019 11:32am
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I’m going to buy Austrian. Which means I support a ktm plant in Amherst, Ohio. Who employs men and women that support families and love motorcycling.

China why don’t you come up with your own ideas you thieving asshats. I’m not supporting your slave labor, and not supporting your economy anymore than im already forced to.
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lawson34 4/20/2019 11:41am
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yz133rider wrote:
I like it. Mxa will test one and hate the glue used for the grips and be unable to get past that.
Lmfao spot on bud hahahahaha
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OLDMOTO wrote:
Everyone seems to forget that KTM makes motorcycles in India and BMW makes motorcycle engines in China.
Quiet, they all think that Japanese samurais hand build their dirt bikes using the same care and craftsmanship as their ancient sword makers.

The Japanese would never outsource manufacturing to a foreign nation, even if they have newer factories and better technology.

Nobody better ever tell them where the parts are made for their beloved Harley Davidson's.
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RandyS 4/20/2019 7:02pm
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My dad and his friends used to laugh at what they called Jap Junk. They rode Harleys, Ossas, Bultacos, Maicos, CZs, BSAs, etc. Since this is an old thread I've probably already said it but fugit, there will be a day when you will be riding Chinese/Indian/Vietnamese/who knows where bikes. They may say Honda on them or they may say Tao Tao.
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RexEasely 4/20/2019 7:19pm
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sowers711 wrote:
Looks pretty good to me.[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/03/27/252154/s1200_C4DF29AD_98B9_43F7_AEA6_027FBDA4213B.jpg[/img]
Looks pretty good to me.

Agree, it's a great looking bike.
blockhead17 4/21/2019 8:01am
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RexEasely wrote:
Chinese need to reverse engineer the Alta.
I genuinely thought (and hoped) a Chinese company would buy them out
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sowers711 4/21/2019 8:08am
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I want to know more about this thumpstar 300 2 stroke. Wonder what engine they cloned or are using.

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downard254 4/21/2019 8:13am
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JRT812 wrote:
“It's not a "Race" engine but can be made to put out H.P. you like.. think enduro power plant.”

As a enduro rider I am triggered.
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