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8/28/2014 6:33 PM
Edited Date/Time: 8/28/2014 6:47 PM

15k OBO buys it and that a smokin deal on this bike. This is one rare bike at what I feel is a very reasonable price. I know of much less rare and historically significate bikes with No documentation or documented history of any type sell for much much more.

I have raced this bike many times. I start off in second gear , shift once to third and never shift again. I lugs down low and put like a 100 HP John Deere tractor. Not many bikes can hang with for more than half a start straight. It's the most fun bike to ride ever and being so rare and on the track makes it unique no matter where I take it. It's a .Very cool bike and I will miss it dearly once sold. I had a few high dollar offers from the VMX boys down under but with its history , I can't let it leaves the states yet, hoping for an American buyer..All reasonable offers considered. It's the only one of these full build BSA weslake conversion bikes most will ever see. And certainly being one of the first ten full builds Rickmans into the USA with documentation holds its place forever in USA MX history dating back to the beginning...My failing health is the only reason I am selling it. I can only hope someone who really appreciates it has the opportunity to enjoy it as much as I have...

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8/28/2014 9:21 PM

domoguchi wrote:

Rickman MK4 full build BSA with extremely rare Weslake kit 500cc one of the first ten bikes imported into the USA in 1968.... Purchased from the Steens Importer in California. Sat in his showroom for many years prior to me owning it...Rare peice of MX history... This is unrestored and in original condition. Fully documented and original Cycle News article included.
Presently For Sale .

newmann wrote:

Care to share with us dreamers what the asking price is for a jewel like that these days? Just a damn work of art. Seeing someone who can ride the piss out of one of those is such a treat.

Newman that thing has your name written all over it

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8/28/2014 10:40 PM

domoguchi wrote:

Rickman MK4 full build BSA with extremely rare Weslake kit 500cc one of the first ten bikes imported into the USA in 1968.... Purchased from the Steens Importer in California. Sat in his showroom for many years prior to me owning it...Rare peice of MX history... This is unrestored and in original condition. Fully documented and original Cycle News article included.
Presently For Sale .

newmann wrote:

Care to share with us dreamers what the asking price is for a jewel like that these days? Just a damn work of art. Seeing someone who can ride the piss out of one of those is such a treat.

Jack mehoff wrote:

Newman that thing has your name written all over it

Agreed.

Aren't you glad we're here to help you spend your money?

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8/29/2014 5:23 AM

Bigfoot wrote:

1982 YZ250J Air-cooled.

Yamaha never sold an air-cooled PowerValve motor. But I had one. When Jeff Jennings contract was up with Yamaha at the end of 1982 and it was time to turn in his equipment Yamaha management told him that any bikes he wanted to keep could be had for the princely sum of $750.

So JJ and I picked over all of the best stuff and put together this bike. We used the works crowns with titanium fasteners that he had and slid in the fork legs and front wheel of the 490 he had that had only been ridden a couple of times. The frame was a specially modified one that had the steering angle kicked out a degree (the stockers were kind of skittish). The rear shock was a Wayne Mooradian/PEP modified model with a White Bros oversize reservoir. The rear suspension linkage was a White Bros prototype that had threaded struts to adjusts the rear ride height and Wayne had installed Zerk fittings so that the linkage pivots could be lubed without disassembling them. The footpegs were special Wayne modified ones that were bigger and higher than stock. The crank end had been machined to accept a YZ60 ignition that gave the powerband a quick zing. And the trickest thing of all, we used the air-cooled OW cylinder that the factory had made when their riders complained about the '82 YZ radiator mounted on the forks behind the numberplate.These cylinders were meant for Supercross with the logic being that overheating isn't as likely in a short race run at night as compared to a 45 minute moto in the heat of the day.

As cool as it was a stock '83 Honda CR250 was sooooo much better. My YZ did have a quick-revving motor that was easy to control, but even at its best the rear suspension was unpredictable. I rode it for a few years and raced it a few times and then in '87 a friend of JJ's borrowed it and never returned it.


I found that very bike some years ago on the internet. A vintage guy in Missouri has it and oddly enough he loaned it to Mike Bell for a vintage race. Mike is JJ's cousin and 1982 Yamaha teammate.





I always wonder about those air cooled 82 YZ250, as Ricky Johnson raced one in some SX races that year. I would kiil to have that bike. I actually saw that bike somewhere and but I just thought the owner some how build it. Very cool story
Scott

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8/29/2014 5:26 AM

Motocrossjunky wrote:

Prob buying this, does anyone know what it is?



zippy895 wrote:

xl 250 or 350?

Already knew it is a 50cc, found out now it's a 1978 Honda XL50

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8/29/2014 9:10 AM
Edited Date/Time: 8/29/2014 2:39 PM

Here's one you don't see everyday..factory Honda trials bike 305cc. Outstanding bikes and still extremely competitive today.
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8/29/2014 9:31 AM

hillbilly wrote:

Husky gave me a tc610 to race the 4str class in 00and 01,awsome bike. The wheelbase was 3 in longer than my cr250 and the 4 sp tranny was close ratio,it would do 70 in 1st . After the mods,hc piston,pipe,oxy fuel,it would break traction in any gear any time.

Raced flatrack on a astro 360 for 2 yrs in mid 70s,very cool bike,rightside shift and brake.

Trials on the Yamaha bikes in what,75 i think. That was fun but not a rush,not fast,like I like.

Dad raced the 430 husky auto in hare scrambles ,rode it a lot tuning it for him,be a great mud bike.

The shop I hung at in the 70s sold Yamaha,Suzuki,and Honda so got to race all that came out from 74 to 79.

A rare one was the 73 500sc, I think that was the letters,torque was it,loved the grey. Still have my 73 360.

Harv_Mushman wrote:

In regards to the 610, I'm riding a Works version of that, next month.

Nice, one of the most enjoyable bikes i ever raced.

I made enuff husky bucks to buy 4 sets of the 50mm marzocchi forks ferracci was using. They were good pieces.

That bike has the 45mm it looks,at that time they were pretty crude,single chamber and let oil and air mix ,but that was 00 thru 02.

I took the sachs shock piston and machined it to utilize a expander ring to keep fade at a minimum.

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8/31/2014 6:12 PM

hillbilly wrote:

Husky gave me a tc610 to race the 4str class in 00and 01,awsome bike. The wheelbase was 3 in longer than my cr250 and the 4 sp tranny was close ratio,it would do 70 in 1st . After the mods,hc piston,pipe,oxy fuel,it would break traction in any gear any time.

Raced flatrack on a astro 360 for 2 yrs in mid 70s,very cool bike,rightside shift and brake.

Trials on the Yamaha bikes in what,75 i think. That was fun but not a rush,not fast,like I like.

Dad raced the 430 husky auto in hare scrambles ,rode it a lot tuning it for him,be a great mud bike.

The shop I hung at in the 70s sold Yamaha,Suzuki,and Honda so got to race all that came out from 74 to 79.

A rare one was the 73 500sc, I think that was the letters,torque was it,loved the grey. Still have my 73 360.

Harv_Mushman wrote:

In regards to the 610, I'm riding a Works version of that, next month.

hillbilly wrote:

Nice, one of the most enjoyable bikes i ever raced.

I made enuff husky bucks to buy 4 sets of the 50mm marzocchi forks ferracci was using. They were good pieces.

That bike has the 45mm it looks,at that time they were pretty crude,single chamber and let oil and air mix ,but that was 00 thru 02.

I took the sachs shock piston and machined it to utilize a expander ring to keep fade at a minimum.

Darryll King, whose bike this is, said those aren't the Works springers on it... the only thing that is still production on the bike.

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8/31/2014 8:53 PM

This...



Probably the most enjoyable bike I've owned. 96 model 125 - TM engine, Ohlins suspension, hydraulic clutch. Just a beautiful machine. Basically a nicer-looking TM (the TMs that year were pink....)

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8/31/2014 9:24 PM



My mighty "OSSA 250 PHANTOM" ! I had a couple more museum phantom restorations as well along the way, but this race bike was the boss, did you want your ass whipped? well then line up next to this one on the gate to get the full picture all the way to the first corner while you ate the roost, she had a '75 tranny no missed gears
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8/31/2014 10:39 PM

One of my friends Dad had a bike shop, and he had this bike for quite a few years. It was Frank Stacy's 1977 Factory Sachs 250 works bike that he rode in the '77 Trans Ama support class. It's now in the Moto Armory museum. I got to ride this bike before it was restored, and it was pretty quick!






And he also had this really rare Hercules Wankel GS enduro bike.








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8/31/2014 11:31 PM

I got a chance to test a Honda NSR 500 GP at Donington Park in the UK .

i think they would come under rare :-}



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9/1/2014 4:18 AM

stantdm wrote:

A friend had a Rickman 125. I forget the engine maker. He let me ride it in the alley while he was working on a Honda I owned. Neat bike but more show than go.

I rode a Cagiva 125 back about 1988. It had one front fork handling compression and the other handling rebound if I remember correctly. All the components on that bike seemed to be very high quality.

Penton 125 with a Sachs engine. Every time you landed off of a jump the chain adjuster bent or broke. Not rare but unusual.

I had one of those Rickmans, had a Zundapp engine. I won my first race on it but it was really pretty slow and the shifting was incredibly bad. It was easy to find neutral, there was one between every gear. But it was a beautiful bike and very reliable and fun to ride. Rode it almost every day.

The fiberglass body work wasn't the best idea. I looped it once and the fiberglass blew to pieces in a big blue could as I rolled down the track. I felt like I was rolling into a smurf.

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9/1/2014 5:49 AM

pete24 wrote:

my cannondale i loved it








My Cannondale and yes I loved mine too. Had a handmade Bill's Pipe on it and after a cpl of remaps it actually went pretty good and handled amazingly well for a big heavy bike.

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9/1/2014 5:54 AM

pete24 wrote:

my cannondale i loved it








Digger29 wrote:

My Cannondale and yes I loved mine too. Had a handmade Bill's Pipe on it and after a cpl of remaps it actually went pretty good and handled amazingly well for a big heavy bike.

Now this bike on the other hand was a vicious pile of shit and I only raced it a cpl of times before selling it. It almost killed me on numerous occasions so I parked it before it did kill me..

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9/1/2014 6:47 AM

RbR wrote:

My dad brought home a couple of these for my brother and I in 73~74: Rockford "TORA" 60cc. Fun to ride ... until your friends found out ...


I too had one in 1974, and I still have a couple today. I made one of them into a mini flat tracker, and I use it as a pit bike.





Ths is a Rockford Chibi standard model that I had in 1971.





And this is a Chibi Deluxe model that I also use as a pit bike.






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9/1/2014 7:06 AM

pete24 wrote:

my cannondale i loved it








Digger29 wrote:

My Cannondale and yes I loved mine too. Had a handmade Bill's Pipe on it and after a cpl of remaps it actually went pretty good and handled amazingly well for a big heavy bike.

Digger29 wrote:

Now this bike on the other hand was a vicious pile of shit and I only raced it a cpl of times before selling it. It almost killed me on numerous occasions so I parked it before it did kill me..

You Digger, whats up bud. Is that a TM 300? I just had a look at one of those in a friends crazy garage right down the street from my house. this guy has 2 of those as well as Fred Andrews national #1 KX250. I am trying to make a deal with him to get it but he wants my CR500.

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9/1/2014 7:53 AM

Gig755 wrote:

One of my friends Dad had a bike shop, and he had this bike for quite a few years. It was Frank Stacy's 1977 Factory Sachs 250 works bike that he rode in the '77 Trans Ama support class. It's now in the Moto Armory museum. I got to ride this bike before it was restored, and it was pretty quick!






And he also had this really rare Hercules Wankel GS enduro bike.








That Sachs is a good looking bike, I don't remember Stacy riding them or ever a Factory presence in the states other than motors stuffed in those KTM/Pentons.

I can't say the same for that wanker looking Wankel, very unique though.

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9/1/2014 8:10 AM

Gig755 wrote:

One of my friends Dad had a bike shop, and he had this bike for quite a few years. It was Frank Stacy's 1977 Factory Sachs 250 works bike that he rode in the '77 Trans Ama support class. It's now in the Moto Armory museum. I got to ride this bike before it was restored, and it was pretty quick!






And he also had this really rare Hercules Wankel GS enduro bike.








Tumblin wrote:

That Sachs is a good looking bike, I don't remember Stacy riding them or ever a Factory presence in the states other than motors stuffed in those KTM/Pentons.

I can't say the same for that wanker looking Wankel, very unique though.

Check out this Motocross Action interview with Frank Stacy:

The MXA Interview: Frank Stacy โ€“ MX History and Inside Tire R&D


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9/1/2014 8:23 AM

Love the SACHS bike...ultra cool....

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9/1/2014 8:31 AM

queen of spodes wrote:

Anyone own a Can Am back in the 80s? When I first started riding and going to watch local hare scrambles, Can Ams were everywhere.. Few jap bikes.. lots of Huskies, KTMs, and a smattering of Yamaha ITs and Kawasaki KDXs. Loved the way the Can Ams developed up till 87 or so.. they were sharp!

I've got half a basement full of Can-Am projects. One runner - a 1981 mx6 250.

Hoping I live to see retirement so I can really get into them.

The one I'm looking forward to the most is a 1986 560 Sonic. Mega thump.

But I also have a 1982 SWM 250 MX with the same Rotax motor. And Fox Factory Forks.

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HAF

9/1/2014 1:00 PM

Gig755 wrote:

One of my friends Dad had a bike shop, and he had this bike for quite a few years. It was Frank Stacy's 1977 Factory Sachs 250 works bike that he rode in the '77 Trans Ama support class. It's now in the Moto Armory museum. I got to ride this bike before it was restored, and it was pretty quick!






And he also had this really rare Hercules Wankel GS enduro bike.








That is the bike that my friend Helmut Clasen uses to build these MC-GS enduro conversion bikes. Helmut was the North American importer for these bikes, and only 5 (not counting the Stacy bike) were imported. He has 4 of those 5 now. Stacy's bike was a 5 speed but the normal production bikes were 7 speed transmissions, a 5 speed with a third aux transmissions shaft with 2 more gears on it.



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9/1/2014 3:52 PM

Digger29 wrote:

My Cannondale and yes I loved mine too. Had a handmade Bill's Pipe on it and after a cpl of remaps it actually went pretty good and handled amazingly well for a big heavy bike.

Digger29 wrote:

Now this bike on the other hand was a vicious pile of shit and I only raced it a cpl of times before selling it. It almost killed me on numerous occasions so I parked it before it did kill me..

docrick wrote:

You Digger, whats up bud. Is that a TM 300? I just had a look at one of those in a friends crazy garage right down the street from my house. this guy has 2 of those as well as Fred Andrews national #1 KX250. I am trying to make a deal with him to get it but he wants my CR500.

Yes it's 03 TM300. I probably should've wrote that in the pic :-)

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9/1/2014 8:48 PM

Gig755 wrote:

Check out this Motocross Action interview with Frank Stacy:

The MXA Interview: Frank Stacy โ€“ MX History and Inside Tire R&D


Thanks for the post, what an amazing time in our sport. The development of all of these new ideas, new bikes. I also had fun chopping up my CZ and trying to work out spring rates LOL. But can't imagine being a national contender and busting out that Sachs in just 2 short weeks;
"We picked the 1977 Trans Am series, which as it turns out was about 2 weeks from starting. We busted everything out, everyone worked hard and man we spent some cash but we made the first race at Mid-Ohio. I finished 5th in the opener and things kinda went downhill from there but I still salvaged a 9th overall in the series. After the series was over they pulled the plug on the development of the bike. "

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9/1/2014 9:35 PM

domoguchi wrote:

Here's one you don't see everyday..factory Honda trials bike 305cc. Outstanding bikes and still extremely competitive today.
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Cripes!

Is that Marland Whaleysp?) / Bill Nilson era / vintage? The youngest it could be would be early Eddie Lejuen (sp, again?)

A very, very special motorcycle, that one.

I was lucky enough to gave a short spin on a Hercules Rotary, at a Six Day, decades ago. A remarkable engine.

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9/2/2014 12:14 AM

Tumblin wrote:

That Sachs is a good looking bike, I don't remember Stacy riding them or ever a Factory presence in the states other than motors stuffed in those KTM/Pentons.

I can't say the same for that wanker looking Wankel, very unique though.

Gig755 wrote:

Check out this Motocross Action interview with Frank Stacy:

The MXA Interview: Frank Stacy โ€“ MX History and Inside Tire R&D


Tumblin wrote:

Thanks for the post, what an amazing time in our sport. The development of all of these new ideas, new bikes. I also had fun chopping up my CZ and trying to work out spring rates LOL. But can't imagine being a national contender and busting out that Sachs in just 2 short weeks;
"We picked the 1977 Trans Am series, which as it turns out was about 2 weeks from starting. We busted everything out, everyone worked hard and man we spent some cash but we made the first race at Mid-Ohio. I finished 5th in the opener and things kinda went downhill from there but I still salvaged a 9th overall in the series. After the series was over they pulled the plug on the development of the bike. "


Cool stuff you ole fuggers... Luckily, FTE told me that factory CZ's in 76 had double downtubes thus my 76 Falta Replica, (sold as "John Rigi's works, practice bike to me, a 14 yr old for $600) might have been just a run of the mill CZ?



I did holeshot my first race on it though, and, could readily smoke my friends 79 KX-250 at will.



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9/21/2014 7:30 AM



I had a Husqvarna Cr 50 I used to love beating kids on cobras with this thing 2003-2004 I raced it no idea what year it was... (still air-cooled)
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9/21/2014 7:39 AM

My first bike was a Yamaha GT80 not sure how rare it was but my dad had a matching 250 so I always felt like a mini me to him

I still have these bikes plus an old RM 80 and Honda CT 70. These are my 'someday' projects.

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