Race fuel

MasonT31
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Hello, I have a 2017 kx250f with a full fmf, pro Circuit water pump, and a 14:5:1 high compression piston I was looking at the T4 and vp110 can someone help me what whould be a good vp gas to run and I don’t want to spen like 180 on that pro ama stuff
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Preston412
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4/7/2021 11:39am
T4 is good for stock and the mods you have.
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TeamGreen
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I've been running T4 since it came out and I've had excellent engine wear and performance.
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Stuntman949
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TeamGreen wrote:
I've been running T4 since it came out and I've had excellent engine wear and performance.
I think you just wrote the commercial for it
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TeamGreen
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TeamGreen wrote:
I've been running T4 since it came out and I've had excellent engine wear and performance.
I think you just wrote the commercial for it
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down.

Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas!

"It's the smell of Victory!"
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Another vote for T4
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JB500
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T4
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Rickyisms
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T4 or Sunoco GTX260 if you can find it in a pump near you.
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RCMXracing
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Another vote for VP T4. 4 strokes like Oxygen and don’t need lead, VP110 is leaded. Even running 50/50 T4/pump is noticeably cleaner running, more responsive, small but noticeable boost in power.
VP110 in a 4 stroke won’t hurt anything and the higher octane will prevent detonation with a higher compression piston. As far as performance? I dunno, many do run it just for the octane.

Anyone know what the closest T4 equivalent is with Renegade and Sunoco?
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TeamGreen wrote:
I've been running T4 since it came out and I've had excellent engine wear and performance.
I think you just wrote the commercial for it
TeamGreen wrote:
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down. Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas! "It's...
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down.

Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas!

"It's the smell of Victory!"
Wasn't it T-4 that smelled like busted ass in the can?
Maybe they fixed it?
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4/7/2021 2:59pm Edited Date/Time 4/7/2021 3:00pm
T-4 smells nice.. not a bad smell whatsoever.
I could be thinking of something else.
This would have been at the beginning of the high performance fuel for 4ts.

I have never owned one, so just going by what I was told.

Whatever it was stunk up the vans...
Yeti831
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T-4 smells nice.. not a bad smell whatsoever.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I could be thinking of something else. This would have been at the beginning of the high performance fuel for 4ts. I have never owned one...
I could be thinking of something else.
This would have been at the beginning of the high performance fuel for 4ts.

I have never owned one, so just going by what I was told.

Whatever it was stunk up the vans...
Probably U4.
Yeti831
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Personally I’m sold on VPR because it’s leaded and I’m 3500-4000ft.

But T4 is basically unleaded VPR with a slightly lower octane rating if I remember.
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Ive used VP T4, VP 110 and Renegade SX4. Last 2 years I switched to Sunoco Leaded Standard 110 with no discernible performance change. Best thing is it sells for $45 for 5g.
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I have a Renegade dealer a few miles from my house so it's convenient for me to run Renegade. I run SX4 in my 450 and SX2 in my 125 and I have been completely satisfied with both. Just as good as a comparable VP fuel and it's cheaper too.
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If you have a pro circuit water pump, I would definitely only use the AMA pro stuff, but make sure you fill it through the radiator cap Wink .. All Jokes aside, I would also recommend T4
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T-4 smells nice.. not a bad smell whatsoever.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
I could be thinking of something else. This would have been at the beginning of the high performance fuel for 4ts. I have never owned one...
I could be thinking of something else.
This would have been at the beginning of the high performance fuel for 4ts.

I have never owned one, so just going by what I was told.

Whatever it was stunk up the vans...
Yeti831 wrote:
Probably U4.
Yeah, I think that was the one.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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I think you just wrote the commercial for it
TeamGreen wrote:
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down. Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas! "It's...
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down.

Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas!

"It's the smell of Victory!"
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Wasn't it T-4 that smelled like busted ass in the can?
Maybe they fixed it?
That's that French Crap... ETS.
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TeamGreen wrote:
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down. Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas! "It's...
I'm pretty stoked on it and the way my motors look when they get torn down.

Also, you gotta love the smell of Race Gas!

"It's the smell of Victory!"
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Wasn't it T-4 that smelled like busted ass in the can?
Maybe they fixed it?
TeamGreen wrote:
That's that French Crap... ETS.
Fuck Manny!
I don't know, I have 2 strokes.
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VPR or T4 for me
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4/7/2021 7:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/7/2021 7:44pm
Yeti831 wrote:
Personally I’m sold on VPR because it’s leaded and I’m 3500-4000ft.

But T4 is basically unleaded VPR with a slightly lower octane rating if I remember.
The leaded fuel leaves deposits and over time will hinder the performance. I used a Pail of VP U4.4 and I noticed an ashy deposit in the exhaust. After talking to several motor builders I went back to VP T4.
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4/8/2021 8:42am Edited Date/Time 4/8/2021 8:43am
Hi Side wrote:
I have a Renegade dealer a few miles from my house so it's convenient for me to run Renegade. I run SX4 in my 450 and...
I have a Renegade dealer a few miles from my house so it's convenient for me to run Renegade. I run SX4 in my 450 and SX2 in my 125 and I have been completely satisfied with both. Just as good as a comparable VP fuel and it's cheaper too.
I think its better .. Curious, what are you paying for a pale of each?

Renegade smells amazing !!!!
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SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Wasn't it T-4 that smelled like busted ass in the can?
Maybe they fixed it?
TeamGreen wrote:
That's that French Crap... ETS.
SEEMEFIRST wrote:
Fuck Manny!
I don't know, I have 2 strokes.
ETS is that terrible smelling crap that you got a whiff of when we were checking out one of the team rigs at Dallas last year. So, yes...Virginia...you DO KNOW!
Grinning
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My buddy and I have been running ETS for a few months now. I kinda indifferent on it.. It's cheap and seems to be decent. We order 8 pales and it's delivered to my work for free.
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T4 and U4 smell the same to me. I am currently running T4, but my last purchase of T4 set me back $85.00 for (5) gallons at the local distributor. Wasn't even at a dealer!
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TeamGreen
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Robbirob25 wrote:
T4 and U4 smell the same to me. I am currently running T4, but my last purchase of T4 set me back $85.00 for (5) gallons...
T4 and U4 smell the same to me. I am currently running T4, but my last purchase of T4 set me back $85.00 for (5) gallons at the local distributor. Wasn't even at a dealer!
Many Distributors sell at full retail...some dealers discount it. I've seen T4 for $65-70 fairly regularly.
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Robbirob25 wrote:
T4 and U4 smell the same to me. I am currently running T4, but my last purchase of T4 set me back $85.00 for (5) gallons...
T4 and U4 smell the same to me. I am currently running T4, but my last purchase of T4 set me back $85.00 for (5) gallons at the local distributor. Wasn't even at a dealer!
Robb - if you are in Ft. Wayne, make the quick drive to Bremen, IN to Bellman Oil. You should get a better price than that.
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