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mohammed
3/20/2010 2:34pm
3/20/2010 2:34pm
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1/27/2012 11:19am
Was RC comment a little irresponsible " for putting down the leatte brace" safety is such a issue these days with so many seriouse injuries/ death. As a person who so many young riders look up to he should of commented or handled the subject another way.
Some actualy think its unsafe RC seems to be one of them.
You can still se pro racers with this protection
The Shop
I see it as most things have a positive outcome when the negatives are not dwelled upon. I viewed it as he obviously had a reason for his opinion and he has a stage to voice his opinion which can also be viewed as a question of concern. When we do see him in a brace of any brand of that type it will probably suffice to many that his questions as an insider and a racer has been answered and honestly would probably get more people in braces as opposed to him just showing up in one like the majority of other racers have the last few years. I think the same could also be said for Stewart if he was to show up wearing a brace.
I've posted this picture in other threads but for me the Leatt worked. Landed on my head scorpion style after coming up short on a double at a snocross track. Leatt broke but I walked away.
I wear one...and can think of a couple occassions where I THINK it helped me a lot.
I can also feel a couple things to this day from where I KNOW it hurt me...
Namely my spine where the back part ends...and my collarbone where it broke on the other side I fell on (broke right hit left side)...of course it probably saved my neck hyper extension there.
I for one am glad he questions it...and agree more conclusive testing is needed.
I htink the design will evolve over time..and only get better for all.
Feel free to prove me wrong with a quote, though...
I've been wearing my son's when he's not using it. I wonder about injuries to the area where it ends, and also assume that it may contribute to some collarbone breaks, but also accept that as a preferable alternative to a neck injury.
More testing, more development.
To each his own.
I know I feel a little safer when I wear mine.
Pit Row
I know at least one of the helmet or neck brace manufacturers is/ was making / testing helmets for MX specific type crashes, I never followed it up.
I wonder if RC ever questioned the Helmet testing procedures carried out by Snell and Dot. Obviously RC has tested all the products he has endorsed over the years, now let me remember were they all perfect.
Going by what Shenazi stated he also checks all the tests on every product he sells, and obviously they all work perfectly.
He is considered a god - the GOAT - and what he says carries a lot of weight.
I cringe to think that people will accept his UNTESTED theories and forego spine protection for their kid.
It's apples and baseballs
The HANS device was extensively tested by NASCAR, F1, independent labs and many other racing sanctions.
It's effectiveness was proven so superior, that other knock offs that came along soon after the release of the HANS were disallowed and ONLY the HANS Device is legal in motorsports racing.
No outside independent testing has ever been done (that I am aware of) of the Leatt Brace.
I believe that was RC's point, I agree and that has always been my point.
RC also DID NOT SAY for riders to not wear a Leatt or similar. In no way did he (or have I) discourage its use.
Surely some modifications to the testing should/ would be available to Test the Leatt or similar device for MX.
Would be good to see these independent labs test the MX devices. Insurance companies surely would help with the cost, maybe the toothless tiger AMA would help as well.
There are too many ifs and buts and when a LEGEND comes out and questions the device maybe it is time he either stfu or there is merit to what he has said.
One life is too many or one serious injury, RC could use his clout to have something done for the SPORT.
How is that his fault?
You also asked;
"Surely some modifications to the testing should/ would be available to Test the Leatt or similar device for MX."
Modifications to what? What testing? Do you not even understand the differences between how the two devices work? They are not similar in any form, other than going around your neck. Their mode or area of protection is in no way similar.
It is apples and baseballs
RC doesn't have to "stfu" about jack shit, he has every right to an opinion, and he never said people should not wear one....did he?
No he didn't
He only stated there is no independent testing on the device, and he is right.
The only data supplied in internal.
As for helmets, you have DOT, SNELL and ESE
One US Federal Standard, one European Standard and one independent standard
Show me evidence of ANY STANDARD for MX neck protection.
I will pay you $1,000 if you can provide me any agreed upon and/or governmental and/or international standards for neck protection in mx.
$1,000 cash.....the challenge is your to win
"James Stewart is the fastest man to ever ride a motocross bike".. ~Ricky Carmichael~
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