CRF450L: Pssst, hey, over here, have you heard about Honda’s street legal Motocrosser?

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Just went and sorta “Stole It” today. This thing is AMAZING & it truly has proper MX ergos. The 6 speed gear-box is perfect and I’m contemplating riding it on a track this weekend...

Breaking it in on a “Dinner Run” in Laguna Beach...
Can you do that on your R?
Btw, they’ve got a TLD store down here!

Cut-a-way of an SE4 at the Laguna TLD store

The lady that runs the place is super knowledgeable on all things TLD...
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i regoed my rm250t in 1981, cause i wanted to ride woods more than mx..( have pic cant upload on this whack forum software) put a big tank, changed the gearing, better muffler, bamm.
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Ok see you at Pala tomorrow ??
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ob wrote:
Ok see you at Pala tomorrow ??
Actually...
You will!
Bruuup!
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Smile

I kid you guys not. Back in the day, when Bultacos and CZs were the hot setup, there was this guy that used to show up at local AMA dist 7 Motocross events. His name was Vernon. He would ride his Kawasaki Bighorn to the track.
They were I think 350 cc 2strokes, Enduro models. Might even have had autolube injection, didn't have to mix the gas.

He would take the lights off, run top 4 or 5, sometimes run up front even, in the open class.

End of the day, while everyone else was loading bikes into pickups and vans, he'd be putting his lights back on.

And then ride 40 or 50 miles home. True story.
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ob wrote:
Ok see you at Pala tomorrow ??
TeamGreen wrote:
Actually...
You will!
Bruuup!
Nice!
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TeamGreen wrote:
Just went and sorta “Stole It” today. This thing is AMAZING & it truly has proper MX ergos. The 6 speed gear-box is perfect and I’m...
Just went and sorta “Stole It” today. This thing is AMAZING & it truly has proper MX ergos. The 6 speed gear-box is perfect and I’m contemplating riding it on a track this weekend...

Breaking it in on a “Dinner Run” in Laguna Beach...
Can you do that on your R?
Btw, they’ve got a TLD store down here!

Cut-a-way of an SE4 at the Laguna TLD store

The lady that runs the place is super knowledgeable on all things TLD...
So how often do you have to change the oil in that thing?
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Moto96 10/19/2018 8:22pm
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From what Ive read it has 29 HP, and is not like KTM and Huskys that came with a "Race kit" like back in the day to uncork the thing with a few simple mods.

How choked down is this thing and whats the cost? And in alot of places, you can plate a race bike with a 1500 dollar light kit and For 5500 bucks you can buy a KX or RM 450 and build a sick dual sport or supermoto on the cheap.


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TeamGreen 10/19/2018 9:25pm
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I don't recall the specifics; but, the oil changes are OFTEN by street-bike standards.

Also, "race kitting" a Husky or KTM ain't as easy as it once was. I know...been there, done that. The power on this doesn't seem much different than a stock FE-S. I'll know more when I put it thru some off-road abuse mañana.
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Moto96 wrote:
From what Ive read it has 29 HP, and is not like KTM and Huskys that came with a "Race kit" like back in the day...
From what Ive read it has 29 HP, and is not like KTM and Huskys that came with a "Race kit" like back in the day to uncork the thing with a few simple mods.

How choked down is this thing and whats the cost? And in alot of places, you can plate a race bike with a 1500 dollar light kit and For 5500 bucks you can buy a KX or RM 450 and build a sick dual sport or supermoto on the cheap.


No way it has 29hp.

I've ridden one, it's a great bike.
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Moto96 wrote:
From what Ive read it has 29 HP, and is not like KTM and Huskys that came with a "Race kit" like back in the day...
From what Ive read it has 29 HP, and is not like KTM and Huskys that came with a "Race kit" like back in the day to uncork the thing with a few simple mods.

How choked down is this thing and whats the cost? And in alot of places, you can plate a race bike with a 1500 dollar light kit and For 5500 bucks you can buy a KX or RM 450 and build a sick dual sport or supermoto on the cheap.


That doesn’t work in California and I would say it’s one of the main selling points as the op is from California. Someone posted an article and it said mid to low 40hp. Maybe the 250 comes in around 29hp? I think you can get the 250L for close to $5500.

I would definitely be looking at the new Honda line up if was in the market for a dual sport. I bet you can get into one for a lot less than any of the orange bikes.
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Doddy 10/19/2018 9:57pm
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6 Speed is cool. Looks like it has 1 can instead of 2? Also, your right I can't do that with an R, but I can with my YZ250 for a few hundred bucks Wink
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Working on a project with Malcolm Smith Motorsports and IMS. Waiting on an ECU from Vortex so we can map it correctly
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Tokyo_Tiddler 10/20/2018 3:32am
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In Japan in 1990, I bought one of those street legal CR250s the US MX mags used to talk about. It looked like the 1989 CR250, but in reality it was slightly detuned and had oil injection. It still had great power and was a great wheelie machine around the streets of Tokyo.
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walleyeguy 10/20/2018 4:12am
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I put a tusk street legal kit on my fx350. Love it.
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DL wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/19/297027/s1200_0C4954AA_0E35_4CD9_8ECC_F1AB04897A00.jpg[/img] Working on a project with Malcolm Smith Motorsports and IMS. Waiting on an ECU from Vortex so we can map it correctly

Working on a project with Malcolm Smith Motorsports and IMS. Waiting on an ECU from Vortex so we can map it correctly
Uh, oh...

Someone just took A LOT OF WEIGHT OFF!
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chad_111 wrote:
The reason behind the interpreted 25 hp
https://youtu.be/fUmtzOlqAtc
Yes, and like the video shows, for 500 dollars more, you can get a 500 EXC with 63 HP at the rear wheel.
The Honda is like a DRZ 400 Supermoto or dual sport. A turd stock. Opened up, with a different exhaust and carb, not a bad ride.

For the money though, a dual sport kit for a race bike is better, or get the KTM or Husky.

Change my mind.
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walleyeguy wrote:
I put a tusk street legal kit on my fx350. Love it.
yep, about 200 bucks plus a 50-70 dollar front numberplate/headlight combo. I think the Baja Designs kit comes with the front plate. The kit I bought to Supermoto a CRF 450 did. The dealer sold the kits for this exact purpose.

Find a dealer to do the paperwork and you're G2G.
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Sweet bike! Congrats! Is 6th gear an overdrive or 1:1? I'wondering how it feels on the road above 50mph.
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DL wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/10/19/297027/s1200_0C4954AA_0E35_4CD9_8ECC_F1AB04897A00.jpg[/img] Working on a project with Malcolm Smith Motorsports and IMS. Waiting on an ECU from Vortex so we can map it correctly

Working on a project with Malcolm Smith Motorsports and IMS. Waiting on an ECU from Vortex so we can map it correctly
Don’t let anyone know you’re waiting on an ECU, the mob will start calling you Stewart!!!
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pamoto 10/20/2018 7:26am
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That 29hp was a rumor now debunked.. It has in the low 40's, 43-44 if I remember correctly.

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What single exhaust? Why would you want to unbalance your weight? Does it feel heavy on the right side?
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chad_111 wrote:
The reason behind the interpreted 25 hp
https://youtu.be/fUmtzOlqAtc
Moto96 wrote:
Yes, and like the video shows, for 500 dollars more, you can get a 500 EXC with 63 HP at the rear wheel. The Honda is...
Yes, and like the video shows, for 500 dollars more, you can get a 500 EXC with 63 HP at the rear wheel.
The Honda is like a DRZ 400 Supermoto or dual sport. A turd stock. Opened up, with a different exhaust and carb, not a bad ride.

For the money though, a dual sport kit for a race bike is better, or get the KTM or Husky.

Change my mind.
Dirt Bike Test rode a stone stock Beta 430 RR-s to the 24 hr. race and back:

"To say the event went smoothly for our team would be a huge understatement. We started the race at 10 AM Saturday morning, changed three air filters, two rear tires, one front tire, and replaced the rear brake pads sometime in the middle of the night. That was it. Aside from those expected maintenance items, and of course filling it with gas, we didn’t touch the bike. We completed 47 laps around the approximately 9.7 mile course and finished 1st 40+ Expert and 10th overall."

Read more at https://dirtbiketest.com/bike-tests/2017-beta-430-rr-s/#UXZ081UTcLylq54…



If that doesn't change your mind..
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Kyle_McNab 10/20/2018 7:59am
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Its pshh guy. You must of never heard of ed bassmaster lol
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Seems like lot of fun for me
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chad_111 wrote:
The reason behind the interpreted 25 hp
https://youtu.be/fUmtzOlqAtc
Moto96 wrote:
Yes, and like the video shows, for 500 dollars more, you can get a 500 EXC with 63 HP at the rear wheel. The Honda is...
Yes, and like the video shows, for 500 dollars more, you can get a 500 EXC with 63 HP at the rear wheel.
The Honda is like a DRZ 400 Supermoto or dual sport. A turd stock. Opened up, with a different exhaust and carb, not a bad ride.

For the money though, a dual sport kit for a race bike is better, or get the KTM or Husky.

Change my mind.
Johnny Depp wrote:
Dirt Bike Test rode a stone stock Beta 430 RR-s to the 24 hr. race and back: "To say the event went smoothly for our team...
Dirt Bike Test rode a stone stock Beta 430 RR-s to the 24 hr. race and back:

"To say the event went smoothly for our team would be a huge understatement. We started the race at 10 AM Saturday morning, changed three air filters, two rear tires, one front tire, and replaced the rear brake pads sometime in the middle of the night. That was it. Aside from those expected maintenance items, and of course filling it with gas, we didn’t touch the bike. We completed 47 laps around the approximately 9.7 mile course and finished 1st 40+ Expert and 10th overall."

Read more at https://dirtbiketest.com/bike-tests/2017-beta-430-rr-s/#UXZ081UTcLylq54…



If that doesn't change your mind..
Well, what I meant was get a KTM, Husky or any other brand. Beta, Gas Gas TM, Probably Sherco also, etc all have better dual sports out of the box. More like a pure race bikes legal for the streets and kick ass with minimal work.

Not that Honda couldn't, but like Suzukis DRZ, they choke them down too much. Who wants to buy a bike, then an exhaust, ECU, cams, heads, Hi Comp Pistons, fuck all that noise.

I know a few with Betas, bith 2 and 4 strokes. Good shit is all I hear. Solid bikes.

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TeamGreen wrote:
Just went and sorta “Stole It” today. This thing is AMAZING & it truly has proper MX ergos. The 6 speed gear-box is perfect and I’m...
Just went and sorta “Stole It” today. This thing is AMAZING & it truly has proper MX ergos. The 6 speed gear-box is perfect and I’m contemplating riding it on a track this weekend...

Breaking it in on a “Dinner Run” in Laguna Beach...
Can you do that on your R?
Btw, they’ve got a TLD store down here!

Cut-a-way of an SE4 at the Laguna TLD store

The lady that runs the place is super knowledgeable on all things TLD...
Are you going to try riding the track with DOT tires before swapping them out?
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TeamGreen 10/20/2018 3:32pm
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Went to Pala...on the bike...aka "Rode to Pala"...
Got there and took off of my Adventure Jacket that was loaded down with water, phone, 1st aid kit...etc. & dropped my TLD Baja tool pack at the "OB Pits brought to you by Bud Light"...and...hit the Vet track!
Like I said...this is a street legal MXer...ESPECIALLY when compared to other "Street Legal Enduros" that're on the market. It was waaaaay beer on the jumps than ANYTHING I've ridden that comes with a license plate...EVER.
I added 1.5 turns on the rear spring, 2 clicks of Compression and 1/2 turn of High Speed Compression (all "IN").



I see that plenty of people seem to think the EXC is better..or...funnier still...that the EXC has the SXF engine/power/gear box: that's really very funny!
Better yet, have you guys ever taken that EXC PDS Suspenion out on an MX track?
I own Husky FESs(Linkage, thank you!)...they're EXCELLENT off-roaders; but, this thing is waaaay more "Moto" right out of the box. The CRF-L shock and fork are Worlds BETTER than the stuff on the other bikes you guys are bringing up.
I can't wait to ride Honda's new "X".
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