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I agree saving weight is good. We’re talking just a couple lbs on a exhaust not 25. Back to my original post, what’s the point in spending big $$ to try and get to that 25 lbs you’re talking about for a average guy? If you got big pockets sure go ahead. But average lap times during a moto it’s not going to make a difference.
my friend spent a lot of money in a titanium exhaust hoping it would not only improve HP BUT at the same time help to drop some excess weight off the 2018 CRF 250.
This post is about letting people know the exact weight of this very expensive exhaust. So those looking for not only some HP gains but also some weight loss....they can think about it twice.
That's it.
While talking about saving weight i mentioned that i managed to save 8,5 kilos / 18,5 lbs on my 125cc which is huge. I don't have any more flats ( again-i'm riding a ultralight 125cc). But you sure don't have to replicate it at all. I just gave the pointer. Some of you guys seem to be happy in a bike that "feels" light riding it. The same guys maybe are happy when a exhaust makes some noise as it makes your bike "feel" more powerful...
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The PC systems IS lighter.
The PC system DOES meet AMA/FIM requirements.
The PC system IS simple to repack.
The PC system DOES MAKE MORE POWER.
So, contrary to your continual MIS-USE of the FACTS...
Compared to UNMOLESTED and still complete w/ALL THE PACKING LOUD-ASSED POS Stock Honda Non-Sound Requirement Spec pipes...
The
PC
System
IS
Now...pay attention here...
LIGHTER!
I’m jus’ sayin’...
I did a whole system on my husky for the same reason, plus, the stock header is a pain to remove. Again, it was 3lbs lighter than stock.
That doesn’t fit the whinny-assed narrative!
The PC site even says this in bold red letters: "Note: The Ti-6 Pro Exhaust System is only needed if rider is required to pass AMA/FIM sound regulations."
I ordered a set too by the way..
Pit Row
Again - people interested in weight savings get their info which for you doesn't seem of any relevance.
You would expect A LOT more savings since we are talking about two complete exhausts here! Usually single Ti-exhausts save anywhere from 2-3 lbs. So you would expect at least 4 lbs savings here. We are talking about a 1300$ Ti exhaust, not just some basic slip-ons.
Then you put a statment that the PC has more power...well - any proof?
Anyway - you sound as a PC salesman here trying to defend your product.
But then you forgot:
it has carbon endcaps
it has a PC sticker on the muffler which looks so cool
it costs a lot so it must be that good
As to WHO/WHOM is ignoring what? There’s a very simple and honest phrase: Apples to Apples. Look into it. Again, there are sound requirements THAT THE PC SYSTEM WAS BUILT TO! Hence, the added HARDWARE AND COMPONENTS AND TUNABILTY TO THOSE Ti-6 Silencers.
Thus, you get an “Epic Fail on the Web” Award.
Bye the way, let me know when you’re serious about making things lighter.
In the real world, these teams add all sorts of stuff...
And still get the bikes down to minimums.
Note: the stock bikes are extremely “minimalist” compared to an actual race bike...aka, less stuff weighs less.
Example: how many ADDITONAL parts in these poctures?
Answers:
They add...
Oversized Brakes including billet brackets, calipers...etc. (almost always heavier)
Glide plate
Transponder & bracket
Various Protective items like the guards on the master cylinders
Additional Electronics for data collection, mapping, tracking...etc.
Mufflers with tunable/adjustable features for tuning (additional hardware)
Graphics kit stuff all over the bike
Often bigger radiators
Seat covers with additional material
Some of those cool guy engine internals actually weigh MORE
Etc., etc., etc. ...
I don’t know much about this stuff; but, I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Oh, and while we’re here...
Some of those team mechanics REALLY work their asses off...including total tear-down and rebuild on Sunday...
Nothing against PC as I've done business with them since the 80's & can vouch that they have excellent products..
Unless your riding at a top competitive level the oem exhaust is more than enough for the vast majority of mere mortals on this forum board. The modern 250 or 450 has more than enough power for the average person.
Simply because it was made of titanium? Even though PC makes no claim to the exhaust system's weight any where or makes any claim that it's lighter than anything else other than their own stainless exhaust systems? Your friend just assumed, because it's titanium, he's getting a lighter exhaust?
The stainless PC exhaust is heavier than the titanium equivalent, therefore the titanium exhaust weighs less than the stainless option but is not necessarily lighter than the OEM exhaust. Make sense? PC makes no claims that their exhaust weighs less than OEM. Your friend just assumed this, or "hoped," as you put it. Your friend isn't very sharp.
Great thread though. Very constructive. A titanium muffler may be heavier than OEM. Call me shocked.
He took like 20lbs off a 125 2 stroke. Theres not much to them to begin with!
He didn't even really bash the exhaust just expected more than a couple ounces lighter from a $1300 ti exhaust which would seem reasonable to me to expect...
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