Predict the 2019 450 teams. Lets have fun

6/7/2018 5:16pm
HRC-kroc,craig,cole.... Kawi-Et3,wilson.... Jgr-peick,hill,savatgy... Yamaha-barcia,grant..... Motoconcepts-brayton,vince,mookie..... Red bull ktm-marvin,webb...... Rockstar hsq- ja21,zack,filthy phil..... Rmatvmc-bagget,bloss,bogle..... Geico-jmart !!!!!!!! Doing the privateer thing- cr22,weimer,bowers
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I think kawi will be eli and grant for one last year
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6/7/2018 5:29pm
kb228 wrote:
I think kawi will be eli and grant for one last year
You’re saying you think Kawi won’t resign ET3?!? He’s got that bike dialed, would be a giant mistake...no way would that happen.
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6/7/2018 5:47pm
webb finally back to jgr

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6/7/2018 5:52pm
Ericrob7 wrote:
You’re saying you think Kawi won’t resign ET3?!? He’s got that bike dialed, would be a giant mistake...no way would that happen.
Pretty sure that's NOT what he is saying...
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6/7/2018 6:03pm
HRC-kroc,craig,cole.... Kawi-Et3,wilson.... Jgr-peick,hill,savatgy... Yamaha-barcia,grant..... Motoconcepts-brayton,vince,mookie..... Red bull ktm-marvin,webb...... Rockstar hsq- ja21,zack,filthy phil..... Rmatvmc-bagget,bloss,bogle..... Geico-jmart !!!!!!!! Doing the privateer thing- cr22,weimer,bowers
Pretty good looking list to me.

I see Cole hanging them up, and the Webb to JGR comment makes sense, they would probably offer the most coin, and the 450 is decent. I could also see Honda saying, “we won’t pay you as much but you will love it here”.
$ wins.
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6/7/2018 6:09pm
Decent list, but I think Seely retires, and Grant does one more year with Kawi
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6/7/2018 6:32pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2018 6:39pm
I don't see webb to jgr. Why would they replace weston for webb? I don't see them running 3 450s either.
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6/7/2018 6:36pm
Ericrob7 wrote:
You’re saying you think Kawi won’t resign ET3?!? He’s got that bike dialed, would be a giant mistake...no way would that happen.
TommyLee93 wrote:
Pretty sure that's NOT what he is saying...
Read it wrong. Thanks.
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BobKerr wrote:
Decent list, but I think Seely retires, and Grant does one more year with Kawi
Seely on the Racer X podcast today said he’s going to be back for A1 ‘19
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6/7/2018 6:46pm
dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't see webb to jgr. Why would they replace weston for webb? I don't see them running 3 450s either.
Keeping Peick and getting rid of Bogle.
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't see webb to jgr. Why would they replace weston for webb? I don't see them running 3 450s either.
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Keeping Peick and getting rid of Bogle.
But isnt hill moving to the 450 for 2019?
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6/7/2018 8:06pm
kb228 wrote:
I think kawi will be eli and grant for one last year
Sounds like Grant is hanging it up soon, I've heard he's retiring. I hope not but on Pulp podcast its been mentioned numerous times.
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6/7/2018 8:22pm
Wilson to Yamaha.

Webb to KTM

JS17 to Kawi,
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dirtmike86 wrote:
I don't see webb to jgr. Why would they replace weston for webb? I don't see them running 3 450s either.
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Keeping Peick and getting rid of Bogle.
dirtmike86 wrote:
But isnt hill moving to the 450 for 2019?
I believe the 450 ride was dependent on how he did on the 250. He didn't do that great to be honest. That said they're moving him up to the 450 for outdoors so I guess if he puts in good results he'll stay on it for 2019. At this point who knows.
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I believe the 450 ride was dependent on how he did on the 250. He didn't do that great to be honest. That said they're moving...
I believe the 450 ride was dependent on how he did on the 250. He didn't do that great to be honest. That said they're moving him up to the 450 for outdoors so I guess if he puts in good results he'll stay on it for 2019. At this point who knows.
First year on a new bike is something to consider though
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6/8/2018 3:54am
kb228 wrote:
I think kawi will be eli and grant for one last year
jbrown15 wrote:
Sounds like Grant is hanging it up soon, I've heard he's retiring. I hope not but on Pulp podcast its been mentioned numerous times.
If he is id put bowers in before anyone else. Got a feeling kawi is waiting for AC before they hire any other kid
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Savtgey to Kawi for a one year deal is what I have heard.
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6/8/2018 7:28am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2018 7:29am
Monster Energy Kawasaki:
Eli Tomac and Joey Savatgy

Rockstar Energy Husqvarna:
Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne and with Dean Wilson riding for cheap.

Monster Energy Yamaha:
Justin Barcia and Benny Bloss

JGR Suzuki:
Weston Peick and Justin Hill

Red Bull KTM:
Marvin Musquin and Shane Mcelrath

HRC:
Ken Roczen and Cole Seely

Rocky Mountain KTM:
Blake Baggett and Cooper Webb

Geico Honda 450 (hopefully):
Jeremy Martin and Christian Craig

Motoconcepts:
Justin Brayton and Vince Friese

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Ray_MXS wrote:
Monster Energy Kawasaki: Eli Tomac and Joey Savatgy Rockstar Energy Husqvarna: Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne and with Dean Wilson riding for cheap. Monster Energy Yamaha: Justin...
Monster Energy Kawasaki:
Eli Tomac and Joey Savatgy

Rockstar Energy Husqvarna:
Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne and with Dean Wilson riding for cheap.

Monster Energy Yamaha:
Justin Barcia and Benny Bloss

JGR Suzuki:
Weston Peick and Justin Hill

Red Bull KTM:
Marvin Musquin and Shane Mcelrath

HRC:
Ken Roczen and Cole Seely

Rocky Mountain KTM:
Blake Baggett and Cooper Webb

Geico Honda 450 (hopefully):
Jeremy Martin and Christian Craig

Motoconcepts:
Justin Brayton and Vince Friese

I think you are close....

I think ..

Benny will stay at RM KTM.

Monster Yamaha will grab Dean Wilson

RB KTM push Webb to the top spot.

HRC will have Martin on a Geico 450 under their tent

Craig will remain on 250s with Geico

That will leave Seely, Grant, Malcolm, Weimer to find something with one of those teams for little to no money...
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6/8/2018 7:44am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2018 7:45am
Ray_MXS wrote:
Monster Energy Kawasaki: Eli Tomac and Joey Savatgy Rockstar Energy Husqvarna: Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne and with Dean Wilson riding for cheap. Monster Energy Yamaha: Justin...
Monster Energy Kawasaki:
Eli Tomac and Joey Savatgy

Rockstar Energy Husqvarna:
Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne and with Dean Wilson riding for cheap.

Monster Energy Yamaha:
Justin Barcia and Benny Bloss

JGR Suzuki:
Weston Peick and Justin Hill

Red Bull KTM:
Marvin Musquin and Shane Mcelrath

HRC:
Ken Roczen and Cole Seely

Rocky Mountain KTM:
Blake Baggett and Cooper Webb

Geico Honda 450 (hopefully):
Jeremy Martin and Christian Craig

Motoconcepts:
Justin Brayton and Vince Friese

tprice07 wrote:
I think you are close.... I think .. Benny will stay at RM KTM. Monster Yamaha will grab Dean Wilson RB KTM push Webb to the...
I think you are close....

I think ..

Benny will stay at RM KTM.

Monster Yamaha will grab Dean Wilson

RB KTM push Webb to the top spot.

HRC will have Martin on a Geico 450 under their tent

Craig will remain on 250s with Geico

That will leave Seely, Grant, Malcolm, Weimer to find something with one of those teams for little to no money...
I agree with you on some things. Bloss might stay with RMATV and Wilson might end up at Yamaha.

I highly doubt HRC will drop Seely.
I don't see Webb beeing a good fit in RB KTM.
Craig will probably end up back in 250s. I hope I'm wrong though Smile
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Monster Kawi - Tomac, Savatgy
HRC - K-Rex, Seely, Craig or JMart on 450 outdoors
Yamaha - Barcia, Webb - I think the Webb sweepstakes have cooled off a lot
JGR Suzuki - Peick, Hill, Bogle - I think JGR gives Bogle another shot on a performance incentive deal.
Red Bull KTM - Marvin, Bloss
RS Husky - Anderson, Zacho, Dean but Deano is on a performance deal much like Bogle
RMATVMC KTM - Baggett, Nicoletti
Geico - One of Jmart or Craig ride a 450 outdoors
MCR - Brayton, Friese

Malcolm ends up on some form of Suzuki deal with hopefully a stable title sponsor, possibly with Jake Weimer. Remember Suzuki was trying to have more bikes on the track this year, but they put the effort behind Hanny who definitely did not Nut-Up.
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Let's have fun?? Ok, here it goes.

Only 2 per team and has to have ridden the bike at some point in their career.

Honda:
MC
KR94

Yamaha:
CR22
AC222

Suzuki:
RC
JS7

Kawasaki:
RV2
ET3

KTM:
RD5
JH84

Husky:
JA21
No clue who else.

Now that would be fun to watch.
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6/8/2018 10:15am
KTM:
Moose
McElrath

Honda:
Seely
Roczen

Yamaha:
Barcia
Bogle

JGR:
Peick
Webb
Hill

Kawasaki:
Tomac
Savatgy
Grant

Husky:
Ando
Wilson
Osborne
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6/8/2018 12:34pm
Monster Energy Kawasaki: Eli Tomac, Joey Savatgy, Josh Grant
Rockstar Energy Husqvarna (unchanged) Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne
Monster Energy Yamaha:Justin Barcia, Dean Wilson
JGR Suzuki: Weston Peick; Justin Hill, Cooper Webb
Red Bull KTM: Marvin Musquin and Shane Mcelrath
HRC: Ken Roczen; Jeremy Martin, Cole Seely;
Rocky Mountain KTM: Blake Baggett; Benny Bloss
Geico Honda (hopefully):; Christian Craig

As ML said, alot depends on what Webb does.
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KurtJ99 wrote:
[b]Monster Energy Kawasaki:[/b] Eli Tomac, Joey Savatgy, Josh Grant [b]Rockstar Energy Husqvarna (unchanged)[/b] Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne [b]Monster Energy Yamaha:[/b]Justin Barcia, Dean Wilson [b]JGR Suzuki:[/b] Weston...
Monster Energy Kawasaki: Eli Tomac, Joey Savatgy, Josh Grant
Rockstar Energy Husqvarna (unchanged) Jason Anderson, Zach Osborne
Monster Energy Yamaha:Justin Barcia, Dean Wilson
JGR Suzuki: Weston Peick; Justin Hill, Cooper Webb
Red Bull KTM: Marvin Musquin and Shane Mcelrath
HRC: Ken Roczen; Jeremy Martin, Cole Seely;
Rocky Mountain KTM: Blake Baggett; Benny Bloss
Geico Honda (hopefully):; Christian Craig

As ML said, alot depends on what Webb does.
Does kawasaki field 3 riders to show off their brand new ktm killer next year?
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You think that HEP Suzuki team steps up with other riders? Could be a good place to land if you don't have a factory bike...
6/8/2018 12:45pm
If Kawi signs Savatgy they could be in for some frustrating days between him and Tomac. If there is any rider who has weirder off days than Tomac it'd be Savatgy in my opinion. But they will also probably have some of the best results at most races.
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6/8/2018 1:29pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2018 1:30pm
I could see Kawasaki with 3 riders but it wouldn't be JG, I'm betting he retires.

Maybe if Webb ends up at JGR then Bogle gets in as 3rd man at Kawasaki, but it has been a while since any Japanese factory team has started a season with more than 2 riders. I don' t understand why not....given the injury rates in this sport it seems better to invest a bit more to ensure you have 2 quality riders on the track. Getting fill-ins is OK, and no disrespect to Aray or Bowers but really neither of these guys should be on factory equipment in the outdoors.

I honestly don't see Webb at RedBull KTM. I think the Baker's Factory door is pretty much closed, Marvin is the big dog there and he and Coop don't have the best relationship going back to the 2015 outdoors. Maybe Webb could slot in with Rattray's group, or stay with Swanie's group but there seems to be a lot of politics with trainers, bike brands and energy drinks. I honestly see Webb either staying at Yamaha or ending up at JGR. This year I think he cannot be blaming the bike, as Barcia is doing well on it with SX podiums and most likely at least one moto win in the outdoors this year.

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