Another Ken Roczen Update: Latest Elbow Surgery

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I was more worried about hit he took with head to jump face. It could have been so much worse. Dungey and Pourcell broke their neck way softer hits. Broken arm isn't career ending.
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1/22/2017 9:01am
Trans world just posted that Honda confirmed its a compounded fracture
Good on Honda for being forthcoming and honest with the fans. If this had been one of the Stewart brothers, they would have waited until Tuesday, and the message would have been "James was banged up at A2, questionable for round 3".
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Update as of 4/19/17: Ken Roczen has dropped another slightly graphic but big update for his recovery. Not a lot of details on his end other...
Update as of 4/19/17: Ken Roczen has dropped another slightly graphic but big update for his recovery. Not a lot of details on his end other than it relates to his elbow. From the looks of things, he's had some sort of bone graph performed...which ties into somethings we've heard about the elbow taking some serious damage. Crossing our fingers for you Ken!



Update as of 2/20/17: Ken is nearing the end of his surgery list and it's really stacking up. He just finished up number eight, has a ninth one on Wednesday and will need one more to get the external fixator out...that's ten total! Yikes... Check below for the latest from the man himself.





Update as of 1/27/17: Ken has updated us from Instagram once again as he goes in for his third surgery today. The latest update includes photos of what his arm looks like without the bandages on, it's quite graphic...

Link to multi view replay of the crash: http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/member/CRASH-Ken-Roczen-Injured-in-Anahei…

Surgery #3 today. Gonna hopefully slowly fix this bad boy up soon.

A photo posted by Ken Roczen (@kenroczen94) on Jan 27, 2017 at 8:08am PST



Update as of 1/24/17: Ken's latest update on IG after his first surgery is up. He's in good spirits, but mentions he's going to require at least four more surgeries, yikes! Get well soon Ken, check below for the quote from his latest post.



Update as of 1/23/17: Ken Roczen has updated fans with his overall list of injuries, including a dislocated wrist and elbow, along with the compound fractured radius. It sounds like Ken is dealing with a lot of swelling and hasn't gone in for his initial surgery yet, as he's actually flying to Vail, Colorado to see a specialist of his choice to perform the first surgery.



Just got an update from the floor, from the sounds of it the Alpinestars Medic crew is signaling for a broken arm with Ken Roczen.

Edit: The HRC Honda team has confirmed a compound fracture in the lower left arm for Ken Roczen, he was transported to a local hospital to decide if immediate surgery is required or if they will weigh the options.









No news on a concussion? Man he hit his head hard!

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tek14 wrote:
I was more worried about hit he took with head to jump face. It could have been so much worse. Dungey and Pourcell broke their neck...
I was more worried about hit he took with head to jump face. It could have been so much worse. Dungey and Pourcell broke their neck way softer hits. Broken arm isn't career ending.
Exactly
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kkawboy14 wrote:
No news on a concussion? Man he hit his head hard!
Didn't look like he was out at all, he moved his left arm right away and touched it just to confirm what he was feeling...his arm was broken.
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Might be more then a broken arm. Look at the blood on his hip
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1/22/2017 9:32am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 9:33am
I was sitting here watching the race by myself and when I saw that happen I said out loud " No Kenny". When he didn't pop back up I knew it was bad. I'm a big Dungey fan but I still want to see the competition safe and have a good series.

Get well soon Kenny.
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/01/22/170678/s1200_IMG_4371.jpg[/img] Might be more then a broken arm. Look at the blood on his hip


Might be more then a broken arm. Look at the blood on his hip
From what we heard around the pits after the race is that his compound fractured arm bled onto his side while laying there (basically meaning what you're seeing is from his arm due to the way he was laying on the track).
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1/22/2017 9:35am
Miss the part about "Compound" fracture ?
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1/22/2017 9:37am
Wishing Kenny a quick and full recovery. Hopefully he can be out there for the beginning of mx.
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1/22/2017 9:42am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 9:43am
After watching that crash replay many times, this hypothetical scenario started playing in my head..

You're Kenny Roczen at A2, on that jump... as you're hitting the eject button and are half way through the air, time suddenly freezes... The devil appears and says: "I will make you a deal. You can either break your arm and nothing else, or take your chances"

Do you take the deal or do you not?

Sure it could end up like Monster Cup where nothing happened and you're racing the next moto, but it could be much worse. This is also assuming if you take the arm deal it is nothing long term debilitating.

Now there are two way to answer that question. A) If you are actually Kenny, in his position of winning a supercross championship. Or B ) if you're you, Joe Schmoe, in the same exact crash situation, with the same injury outcome/risk.

Me personally, I take that deal in either situation... at least with that kind of crash.
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1/22/2017 9:50am
You guys think the lapper came into play at all? He kind of squared off that corner a bit early. Just wondering if he was taking a line more to the right for most of the races. Reminds me of RV's horrendous similar crash.
1/22/2017 10:00am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 10:01am
burnside wrote:
You guys think the lapper came into play at all? He kind of squared off that corner a bit early. Just wondering if he was taking...
You guys think the lapper came into play at all? He kind of squared off that corner a bit early. Just wondering if he was taking a line more to the right for most of the races. Reminds me of RV's horrendous similar crash.
I think Kennys line choice around the 722 was pretty fine actually. The right side of the track didn't look any smoother from my armchair view
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1/22/2017 10:08am
Best wishes and prayers to Roczen, you don't want to see anyone take an impact like that, ever. Been watching this sport for 20 years, I don't think I've ever seen an impact like that. I'm sick to my stomach for the guy. He is walking and talking, both of which could have been taken from him. I am thankful for that, and I wish him the best.
1/22/2017 10:11am
MBR wrote:
Didn't look like he was out at all, he moved his left arm right away and touched it just to confirm what he was feeling...his arm...
Didn't look like he was out at all, he moved his left arm right away and touched it just to confirm what he was feeling...his arm was broken.
you don't have to be out cold to suffer a concussion. I find it unusual that he held his left forearm but never watched down to it...I would be surprised if he'd had none
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1/22/2017 10:12am
Monk I heard nothing about a broken neck and that hit was harder than some KTM rider last year.
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1/22/2017 10:18am
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The 450 class will definitely be boring unless someone finds speed to match Dungey. Though I felt this was going to happen to Ken at some...
The 450 class will definitely be boring unless someone finds speed to match Dungey. Though I felt this was going to happen to Ken at some point. Dungey is boring but he would have settled for 2nd or 3rd and came back next week.
and Anderson lost 25 points tonight also. good night for dungey on the fact he won and two main competitors lost big points
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[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/01/22/170678/s1200_IMG_4371.jpg[/img] Might be more then a broken arm. Look at the blood on his hip


Might be more then a broken arm. Look at the blood on his hip
Define compound fracture: medical : a broken bone in which a part of the bone sticks out through the skin.
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I'll dip in some info here that should hopefully help you understand what happened. At MEC, Ken overshot the first rhythm in this section, compressing the...
I'll dip in some info here that should hopefully help you understand what happened. At MEC, Ken overshot the first rhythm in this section, compressing the suspension heavily and causing it to pop weird for the next set, which he then cased after losing his pop, then endo-ing off the third...

Tonight, he landed a little deep off the first rhythm, into a rut, blowing the shock through the stroke right as the bike hit a very abrupt triple face (a few guys had similar bucks with the abruptness of this lip).

Another factor, in my opinion, on why the reaction was so severe is Ken typically likes softer settings (from what I've been told by both his prior teams) which could compound this reaction.

Lastly, the bike itself wouldn't have a "flaw" in my opinion. The linkage ratio on this bike has been modified to match up to a near equal value of the previous models (well within the range of what other manufactures use). Their shock travel/stroke length wasn't compromised with the change either.
Seeley took a different rhythm through that section, as did Hill in the 250 main. To blame the bike for a rider error is pretty silly.
1/22/2017 10:35am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 10:35am
ti473 wrote:
After watching that crash replay many times, this hypothetical scenario started playing in my head.. You're Kenny Roczen at A2, on that jump... as you're hitting...
After watching that crash replay many times, this hypothetical scenario started playing in my head..

You're Kenny Roczen at A2, on that jump... as you're hitting the eject button and are half way through the air, time suddenly freezes... The devil appears and says: "I will make you a deal. You can either break your arm and nothing else, or take your chances"

Do you take the deal or do you not?

Sure it could end up like Monster Cup where nothing happened and you're racing the next moto, but it could be much worse. This is also assuming if you take the arm deal it is nothing long term debilitating.

Now there are two way to answer that question. A) If you are actually Kenny, in his position of winning a supercross championship. Or B ) if you're you, Joe Schmoe, in the same exact crash situation, with the same injury outcome/risk.

Me personally, I take that deal in either situation... at least with that kind of crash.
HaHa... I'm pretty sure Dungey cut a deal somewhere (probably pushing his bike to the pits when he ran out of gas in TX.) James Stewart had his number in 2012 winning the firat 4 moto's aaaand POOOF crashes out, Tomac has him covered in 2015 winning (dominating) the first 5 moto's POOOF, and now Roczen has him covered and POOOF race 3 crash.
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1/22/2017 10:38am
brocsdad wrote:
The 450 class will definitely be boring unless someone finds speed to match Dungey. Though I felt this was going to happen to Ken at some...
The 450 class will definitely be boring unless someone finds speed to match Dungey. Though I felt this was going to happen to Ken at some point. Dungey is boring but he would have settled for 2nd or 3rd and came back next week.
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and Anderson lost 25 points tonight also. good night for dungey on the fact he won and two main competitors lost big points
I think this weekend we learned that nothing is certain. Dungey going down in his heat race could have been just as disastrous had he been landed on. Let that happen in the main and it surely changes things up again.
1/22/2017 10:41am
ti473 wrote:
After watching that crash replay many times, this hypothetical scenario started playing in my head.. You're Kenny Roczen at A2, on that jump... as you're hitting...
After watching that crash replay many times, this hypothetical scenario started playing in my head..

You're Kenny Roczen at A2, on that jump... as you're hitting the eject button and are half way through the air, time suddenly freezes... The devil appears and says: "I will make you a deal. You can either break your arm and nothing else, or take your chances"

Do you take the deal or do you not?

Sure it could end up like Monster Cup where nothing happened and you're racing the next moto, but it could be much worse. This is also assuming if you take the arm deal it is nothing long term debilitating.

Now there are two way to answer that question. A) If you are actually Kenny, in his position of winning a supercross championship. Or B ) if you're you, Joe Schmoe, in the same exact crash situation, with the same injury outcome/risk.

Me personally, I take that deal in either situation... at least with that kind of crash.
HaHa... I'm pretty sure Dungey cut a deal somewhere (probably pushing his bike to the pits when he ran out of gas in TX.) James Stewart...
HaHa... I'm pretty sure Dungey cut a deal somewhere (probably pushing his bike to the pits when he ran out of gas in TX.) James Stewart had his number in 2012 winning the firat 4 moto's aaaand POOOF crashes out, Tomac has him covered in 2015 winning (dominating) the first 5 moto's POOOF, and now Roczen has him covered and POOOF race 3 crash.
I'm not sure KRoc showed us enough to say he had Dunge 'covered'.
If anything, at round 1 KRoc showed insane speed, then at round 2 Dunge showed us HE in fact had Kenny 'covered'.
1/22/2017 10:44am
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He has a dislocated elbow also.
Is this confirmed as True? If so, this combined with the compound fracture could be bad on the nerves.
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3-6months off after surgery?
Heal up Kenny

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