Pirelli scorpion mx32 midsoft vs Dunlop Geomax mx-3s vs Dunlop Geomax mx-33

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11/21/2018 5:28 AM

Who has tried these 3 models of tires and can give your opinion?

the best tire and the most grip

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11/21/2018 6:06 AM

fiambre wrote:

Who has tried these 3 models of tires and can give your opinion?

Ran all three on my SXF 450. Geomax has nowhere as much grip as the Pirelli but the Pirelli rear tire wears a bit faster. Usually on our hard packed track I need a new Pirelli after 3 hours on the rear. Good thing is that even if most of the knobblies are torn off, it still grips okay on dry hardpack. The Dunlops don´t grip at all when worn . Dunlops front breaks the outer knobblies in the ruts so I need a new tire every 5 hours despite still good shape in the middle. Overall I gave up on all the other tires for our hardpack surface and run Pirelli midsoft front and rear - to me they give the most safety and the best feeling.

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11/21/2018 6:27 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/21/2018 6:49 AM

fiambre wrote:

Who has tried these 3 models of tires and can give your opinion?

WEAL wrote:

Ran all three on my SXF 450. Geomax has nowhere as much grip as the Pirelli but the Pirelli rear tire wears a bit faster. Usually on our hard packed track I need a new Pirelli after 3 hours on the rear. Good thing is that even if most of the knobblies are torn off, it still grips okay on dry hardpack. The Dunlops don´t grip at all when worn . Dunlops front breaks the outer knobblies in the ruts so I need a new tire every 5 hours despite still good shape in the middle. Overall I gave up on all the other tires for our hardpack surface and run Pirelli midsoft front and rear - to me they give the most safety and the best feeling.

Thank you very much for your answer . One last question did you try pirelli scorpion mx32 midhard in that compact and hard terrain?

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11/21/2018 6:35 AM

I rate the Dunlops as “A’s” versus the Pirellis mid soft front and mid hard rear which I rate as “A-“ for the tracks I ride (Decomposed granite and sand mix)

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11/21/2018 8:51 AM

i cant stand the mx33 front... But i do like the MX33 rear.. i usually run the pirelli mx32 pro rear and the mx32 mid soft fronts

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11/21/2018 9:41 AM

fiambre wrote:

Who has tried these 3 models of tires and can give your opinion?

WEAL wrote:

Ran all three on my SXF 450. Geomax has nowhere as much grip as the Pirelli but the Pirelli rear tire wears a bit faster. Usually on our hard packed track I need a new Pirelli after 3 hours on the rear. Good thing is that even if most of the knobblies are torn off, it still grips okay on dry hardpack. The Dunlops don´t grip at all when worn . Dunlops front breaks the outer knobblies in the ruts so I need a new tire every 5 hours despite still good shape in the middle. Overall I gave up on all the other tires for our hardpack surface and run Pirelli midsoft front and rear - to me they give the most safety and the best feeling.

Never tried 3s or 33 (rode 52s, but didn't like the front), but I can vouche for what WEAL says about the MX32s. They are soo predictable in all conditions, even when they are heavily worn. If it's really hard packed they work great too but chunk fast on the rear even on the 250f. I switch to MX32 MidHard on the rear for those really dry conditions but stay with the Softs in the front.

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11/21/2018 9:50 AM

fiambre wrote:

Who has tried these 3 models of tires and can give your opinion?

WEAL wrote:

Ran all three on my SXF 450. Geomax has nowhere as much grip as the Pirelli but the Pirelli rear tire wears a bit faster. Usually on our hard packed track I need a new Pirelli after 3 hours on the rear. Good thing is that even if most of the knobblies are torn off, it still grips okay on dry hardpack. The Dunlops don´t grip at all when worn . Dunlops front breaks the outer knobblies in the ruts so I need a new tire every 5 hours despite still good shape in the middle. Overall I gave up on all the other tires for our hardpack surface and run Pirelli midsoft front and rear - to me they give the most safety and the best feeling.

fiambre wrote:

Thank you very much for your answer . One last question did you try pirelli scorpion mx32 midhard in that compact and hard terrain?

Yes - I tried the midhard compound a couple times but lost the knobblies just as fast and had a little less grip. So I stay with the midsoft as it works very well. I want to try a 120 on the rear, I doubt it holds up a little longer but maybe a little more grip?

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11/21/2018 9:58 AM

Pirelli MX32 = better performance

Dunlop MX3s/MX33 = lasts longer

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11/21/2018 10:08 AM

I'm a Pirelli believer...ESPECIALLY in Baja.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

11/21/2018 10:29 AM

Bridgestone Battlecross X30 - About the same grip as Dunlop MX33, and lasts much longer.

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11/21/2018 11:19 AM

as I read it seems that the favorite is pirelli the only problem is that it is spent before the Dunlop. Right now I have Dunlop Geomax 3s in front and behind are the ones that bring the ktm 350 sxf oem and the truth that they have good grip. I'll try pirelli and see the result

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11/22/2018 3:33 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/22/2018 5:30 AM

Sorry if I stir it up a little, but Michelin Starcross 5 are definitely another tires worth looking into.
I had nothing but great experience with Michelins, they grip similar to MX3S, last way longer, and are significantly lighter.

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11/22/2018 5:14 AM

For sure the pirelli, but i use the dunlop mx3s. Because the pirelli i gone in 3 hours riding on hardpack.

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11/22/2018 5:29 AM

ron36 wrote:

For sure the pirelli, but i use the dunlop mx3s. Because the pirelli i gone in 3 hours riding on hardpack.

I agree with the fact that Pirellis are gone in a matter of no time, usually 2 motos and a practise day and it's time to change tire but during that time the grip is 10/10.

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11/22/2018 10:01 AM

theycallmeebryan wrote:

Bridgestone Battlecross X30 - About the same grip as Dunlop MX33, and lasts much longer.

X30 weighs 13lbs6ozs vs MX33 12lbs2oz. Pirelli MX32 weights 11lbs5ozs. It's hard to ignore the 2lb weight difference between the MX32 and X30 especially it being unsprung weight.

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Take it to the limit, one more time!

11/22/2018 12:09 PM

I have run the pirelli's for ages. The mx32 mid hard is my favorite rear tire i have run. Even in mud that thing grips and gives great life. I would say durability is on par with the x30 but better grip.
I don't like pirelli front tires though, always seem to crack the knobs on the side of the tire. X30 has been my favorite front tire to date.
Dunlops hook up well but don't last for me

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11/22/2018 3:27 PM

Pirelli only for me. Tried most of them, to me there is no greater feeling than sitting at the gate with a fresh Scorpion mid-soft under your ass. tongue But honestly ,they are lighter than any tire,grip better during acceleration and braking and give great confidence in cornering. Being that most of my riding is done in western PA loamy conditions,I don't experience the quick wearing aspects that some of you have, so to me its a no brainer. They also run a special once or twice a year that when you buy a rear you get a front for free. My local dealer hooks me up at cost and I can get a set (F&R) for under $100. I usually try to buy a dozen to take advantage of that,but sometimes the timing is off and the cookie jar is too low. But even at full price I'd take the Pirelli's.

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11/22/2018 6:33 PM

OldPro277 wrote:

Pirelli only for me. Tried most of them, to me there is no greater feeling than sitting at the gate with a fresh Scorpion mid-soft under your ass. tongue But honestly ,they are lighter than any tire,grip better during acceleration and braking and give great confidence in cornering. Being that most of my riding is done in western PA loamy conditions,I don't experience the quick wearing aspects that some of you have, so to me its a no brainer. They also run a special once or twice a year that when you buy a rear you get a front for free. My local dealer hooks me up at cost and I can get a set (F&R) for under $100. I usually try to buy a dozen to take advantage of that,but sometimes the timing is off and the cookie jar is too low. But even at full price I'd take the Pirelli's.

This is a good thread. Like the OP, I’m ready for new tires again and wouldn’t mind trying something new. I ride all over the Midwest, mostly loamy stuff and have mostly run Dunlop. Sounds like Pirelli is a great alternative.

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11/22/2018 6:51 PM

Pirelli. ......and the Pirelli Matt shed it's edge, but retains most of its grip. The Dunlop is junk once the edge is gone. Seems like the Pirelli gets its grip from its compound and the Dunlop gets it from the edge on the tire.

And the Pirelli mounts with half the effort.

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11/22/2018 7:44 PM

FWIW, I replaced the stock MX3s that were starting to crack at the side knobs with a new MX33 and without a doubt the worn out 3s was better. Most noticeably was the lack of traction leaning into corners, they break loose like the track was just watered.

Needless to say, there will be no Dunlops in my future.

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11/23/2018 9:08 AM

Turbojez wrote:

Sorry if I stir it up a little, but Michelin Starcross 5 are definitely another tires worth looking into.
I had nothing but great experience with Michelins, they grip similar to MX3S, last way longer, and are significantly lighter.

Same experience here. The Michelin hooks up at about 90% of the MX3S, but has lasted significantly longer even when riding the soft tire on hardpack.

Do check the widths though as they run a little bit narrower.

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11/23/2018 5:41 PM

slipdog wrote:

FWIW, I replaced the stock MX3s that were starting to crack at the side knobs with a new MX33 and without a doubt the worn out 3s was better. Most noticeably was the lack of traction leaning into corners, they break loose like the track was just watered.

Needless to say, there will be no Dunlops in my future.

The new 33 is a step backward for sure.

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11/24/2018 2:51 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/22/2020 12:45 AM

Edited to clarify:

My favorite tires are a Bridgestone M203 in the front, and a Pirelli MX32 Pro (Mid-Hard) in the rear.
My bike can lean with confidence. The rear wheel tracks straight over any terrain, never breaks loose unexpectedly.
The front M203 tire has knobs far down on the sides for great traction when leaning.
My brand new MX32 Mid-Hard in the front seems to turn better than my 7 year old M203, but I don't have the same confidence when accelerating out of a corner, or through a rough straightaway.
In the end I didn't like the MX32 Mid-hard in the front. I feel the Dunlop MX33 is better, but still not as good as my M203. Unfortunately, the M203 front is only available for small bikes now.

I mostly ride at Fox (Pala) these days.

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11/24/2018 8:50 AM

Radical wrote:

Edited to clarify:

My favorite tires are a Bridgestone M203 in the front, and a Pirelli MX32 Pro (Mid-Hard) in the rear.
My bike can lean with confidence. The rear wheel tracks straight over any terrain, never breaks loose unexpectedly.
The front M203 tire has knobs far down on the sides for great traction when leaning.
My brand new MX32 Mid-Hard in the front seems to turn better than my 7 year old M203, but I don't have the same confidence when accelerating out of a corner, or through a rough straightaway.
In the end I didn't like the MX32 Mid-hard in the front. I feel the Dunlop MX33 is better, but still not as good as my M203. Unfortunately, the M203 front is only available for small bikes now.

I mostly ride at Fox (Pala) these days.

Is that mid-hard front or rear? I haven't tried mid-hard front, last 2 pirelli fronts I tried cracked the side knobs off in a couple of hours. First was the mid-soft which i expected cos i was riding fairly hard packed tracks, next one was the mx extra x which i was surprised when it cracked

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