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you might be surprised to find out some of that sports dirty lil secrets. im in no way discrediting senna. he was schumacher before schumacher was schumacher.
those drivers are great athletes. it takes tremendous heart and conditioning to do what they do. which is all the more reason why taboo PED's would benefit a driver. any athlete with the determination and discipline required to follow the diet senna was on, completely fits the personality type that would use taboo PED's. (food for thought).
and if we are going to talk about F1, that sport is the worst example of a sport with regards to "cheating", "scandal", and the likes. hell, that sport invented cheating in motorsports. its all about who can bend the rules the best. horrible horrible example hahaha.
i love F1 (in theory), but that sports culture isnt too coy about its stance on skirting the rules.
Ironic....isn't it
i believe this guy makes up the majority. its a hear no evil and see no evil society we live in. this person is asking to be lied too.
and if the blatant truth were ever to be too big to ignore, he openly admits to being willing to turn his back on a sport that he previously turned a blind eye too.
his stance/definitions of "cheating" and the "ruining of the sport" show severe lack of perspective.
when it was found out that the earth was round, many were angry and their was a huge backlash. why? paradigm shifts aint comfortable to deal with. change hurts.
homey55, i commend your honesty. dont take my remarks as an insult please.
The Shop
I'm looking at it as a casual observer, having no idea what goes on behind closed doors, just as 90% of the fan's view the sport.
My overall view of the subject is "be careful what you wish for".
Too many people in every physical activity get too caught up in crap that doesn't work and neglect to correctly monitor their diet, rest, and amount of training.
Funny, huh?
I find it funny the people that argue "shades of grey" for everything want to make this argument a black and white deal.
But, of course, you know this.
Pit Row
After they do that it's then up to the athletes to find the loopholes and exploit it and push it to the limits as they do in all sports but not cross that pine where your cheating as defined by the rule book. It's up to the sanctioning body to watch over this, enforce it, and change the rules the following year to try and eliminate as many loopholes as possible.
PEDs
"well, i know someone whos a pro who does PED's but i dnt wanan say their name"
if you aren't gonna say their name, dont fucking bring it up!!
Killer job with edumacating the dumbfounded masses. Jesus Christ. I am blown away that there is someone with a brain in here. Nice work.
the thread should have ended on these two posts. there is nothing left to add.
everything that could possibly be said, has been said, from every angle. if someone feels there is anything left to debate, chances are someone just needs to go back and re-read this entire thread because its pretty thorough.
next time this topic is brought up, we should just link to this one. its got a lot of good info, and the discussion stayed civil and intelligent for the most part.
(thx bullpen. but for every person like u who appreciates the efforts i made in this thread, there are others who want to find out where i live cause of the exstacy story hahaha)
oh, and burb, when youre done trolling, go work on that 125 so we can go riding this weekend. if you get it done in time, you can have my spot at the showa ride day at glen helen this friday if you want.
I don't know if they found trace in his urine or blood. I do know that the guy that finished 2nd was clean, and in a fair world he would have won probably.
I think you have a cheating mentality in the US concerning PED's. Therefore I can never take the results your rider performe seriously. MX in general is really naiv against PED's. US mx is still in the stoneage.
I think all your arguments are bullshit. I want all cheaters to get caught. This only showes mx has a really long way to go before it should be taken seriously by anyone.
Finally...If i doubted some of the stuff before, now I'm convinced just how full of shit your topriders are.
I think the US guys will win in Lommel as well. They should have at least 10-15% over their opponents in stamina due to all the drugs.
and all this sentiment really does is bring this discussion down to the level of a simple AMA vs FIM argument.
he's clearly not aware that all the best drugs have always come from europe.
so lets all just agree to ignore this post.
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