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If you contact Paypal they would most definitely tell you that is a scam
it's a scam, I guess I'm lucky because I've never had a charge back.
Not to mention had I built something and got scammed like the guy with the BMX parts, I would be knocking on their door and letting them know what was up.
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Also, you can have money in hand all you want, I believe a buyer has either 90 or 180 days to charge it back. All they have to say is somebody hacked their account and they never saw the dirt bike.
Despite being somewhat careful myself- I never knew it was so easy to get scammed like this, is this the scenario then :-
I am selling something- I sell it and get paid with Paypal then post to buyer or they collect it...THEN the buyer says they did not get it/ or it was damaged or something and they get full refund from PP and PP actually charge me for what I sold it for and I actually lose the item (or the buyer gets to keep it) !!?
That is quite disturbing, if it is so easy to do.
Is there is little/ nothing the seller can do about it?
Kind of concerned now about selling anything of much value and the thing is that famous auction site place, 'make' you offer Paypal as an option, think it is sort of compulsory?
Would bank transfer be a safer and better option (for the seller mainly) ? I got some parts I want to sell, some of them more expensive, a few hundred pounds and kind of abit confused how to go about it now, having read this thread. Maybe it is a good thing though, if it helps to NOT get scammed.
Paypal does this because they’re catering to consumer sellers rather than businesses that sell products. A credit card processing company that caters to businesses has more resources allocated to fighting these kinds of chargebacks. They’ll work with you to help prove the buyer actually received the item your selling. They’ll review selling contracts, and certified delivery notices and present that to the card issuing bank for proof that the buyer received the item. But the downside to this is that you will inevitably have to pay more for what you’re selling because they charge monthly, and annual fees along with a lot of different per transaction fees. And there’s no guarantee they can win the chargeback regardless.
Probably the best thing you can do, is when you place your ad on craigslist, don’t ship any item without actually speaking with the buyer. Most of the scams won’t bother with calling on an item. They’re just looking for the low hanging fruit. Talking to the buyer isn’t bullet proof, but I bet it gets you past 90% of the scammers out there.
And just for future reference, most of the scammers will refer to what you’re selling as “the item” rather than “your dirt bike parts” especially after the first e-mail. I had an e-mail chain going with the same guy and every time I replied I changed the item I was selling, and they kept driving the paypal angle no matter how ridiculous my response was.
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