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Hahahaha, keep telling yourself that. Supercross is the bottom-feeder's series, where they pander to people who neither know nor care what real motocross actually is. When I tell my friends I watch motocross, I specifically have to say "not that shit in the stadiums; I'm not a dumbass!" I'm not gonna be associated with that freak show any more than I'm gonna be associated with the X-Games.
Supercross is the NASCAR of dirt-bike racing, and that's no a compliment. When you pander to a crowd that needs to "sit up high and see the whole track," you've reached the bottom of the barrel.
It's obvious and I agree that MXGP is deeper than here, but it's not as lopsided as some want to make us believe.
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Furthermore, it is an argumentative fallacy to lump all non-Americans into one category. Many foreign riders have wanted to race in the USA, therefore Jorge Prado must also want to race in the USA. This is one of the most basic fallacies of any debate, argument, or attempt at critical thinking. It completely kills your credibility (as does your claim to know what Jorge dreams about)
There are reasons why Australian, Canadian and French riders have historically made up the vast majority of foreign riders on the AMA circuit.
On the flip side, there are reasons why, despite decades of success on the Grand Prix circuit, Belgian and Dutch riders have been few on the AMA circuit. Ignoring this is a disservice to productive dialogue.
I contend that prestige is subjective and intangible. There are stats however, for Supercross attrition rates, we know the AMA schedule is more arduous than the GP schedule, we can safely infer that KTMs marque 250F grand prix rider is handsomely compensated. There are tangible and logical reasons that support the no-US-for-Prado argument. By no means does that make it true. But the argument has legs. Meanwhile all you seem to present is an intangible perception of prestige, and a generalization based upon a very diverse set of circumstances and epochs.
I don't proclaim to know what Jorge is thinking, he may very well come to the US. But I'm embarrassed for you when I read arguments to the effect of "lots of others wanted to do it so that means it's worth doing and Jorge wants to do it too".
Come on Dan, you can do better.
Supercross is not motocross, it is a sport unique to the USA. The rest of the world does motocross, it’s the global sport.
Supercross is the most glamorous of course and the best “show” but for me I prefer world championship motocross overall if I had to win one (both would be great!) as it’s real and raw and requires a greater variety of skills to win. Supercross is great entertainment in the winter when there is no motocross but for me you simply can’t beat the outdoors.
Motocross is the real sport and the one the whole world does, that’s why the world motocross championship for me is the toughest and most prestigious motorcycle series on the planet. The depth is insane and you have to race such diverse tracks and race in totally different countries every week, it’s the ultimate test and how you prove your are the best motocross rider in the world.
If you want to race supercross you go to America, like you do if you want to race NASCAR and not F1 but winning a supercross title doesn’t mean you are the best motocross rider on the planet, that’s MXGP.
Supercross is a totally different, a unique skill only necessary for America. Motocross is global. In the same way NFL is American and soccer is global. Both are great sports and both great to win but are very different.
The point was NFL is an American only sport like supercross. Soccer is played more world wide just like motocross is. So they are different things that’s hard to compare. Being supercross champ doesn’t make you a superior rider to the world motocross champ, it’s a different thing.
MXGP is the pinnacle of motocross because it is a more global sport with a much bigger base than supercross because that’s what everyone around the world does, they race motocross not supercross. So while supercross is the main goal in the States, outside the USA it’s pretty irrelevant to making it in pro in motocross where your outdoor skills need to take priority first.
It’s up to the rider to decide what he wants to be best at. If you want to be the best supercross rider and enjoy the show. you have to go to America, if you want to be the best motocross rider, you race MXGP.
American’s obviously have a much bigger head start on the rest of the world in supercross since it’s their sport and they have to be good at it to get a decent ride in the States. Whereas motocross is a leveller because everyone grows up doing it, that’s why MXGP is the ultimate barometer for a motocross rider.
The rest of the world respects America a lot more than America respects the world championship, so Americans need reminding sometimes that the world championship is the pinnacle of outdoor racing and supercross is, as you said, a different form of the sport.
Glad we can agree.
Also curious, what's the average attendance at a GP event? It must be bigger than an AMA national but smaller than a supercross event?
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