PROOF Performance Enhancement Drugs in MX

notmystyle
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 3:45pm
I have seen this guy Mitch Ross and his company S.W.A.T.S. brainwashing riders to believe in his hologram stickers as a means to improve performance and heal injuries. Basically a powerband without the bracelet. I guess based on what the NFL is stating he is also selling products with Insulin Growth Factor or IGF-1 and has put out letters to the Raiders coach and numerous players to stop associating with this individual.

TPG Exclusive: NFL Orders Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson To End Ties With Company Linked To Banned Substance
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201101/tpg-exclusive-nfl-orders-rai…;

What is strange to me is that this guy is not scared to admit that his product has IGF-1 and has numerous articles similar to the one above posted on his site. www.swatsedge.com While going through his videos I ran across numerous motocross riders endorsing his products. Most notable Mike Alessi, Chis Blose and Tevin Tapia. Although neither Mike or Tevin admit to taking "the ultimate spray" the product containing IGF-1 Chris Blose does. Check out video time 2:10












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The question now should be what is Feld, MXSports and AMA going to do about it?
I think these groups should bite the bullet and pay the money to have the top ten guys in each class tested by having muscle biopsies done as this is the only way to test for this drug.
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11/21/2011 10:26pm
wow, what a shocker. this will send shock waves nowhere

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11/21/2011 10:29pm Edited Date/Time 11/21/2011 10:29pm
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using whatever bullshit they come across to support their agenda and stir shit up. Get a fucking life.
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11/21/2011 10:39pm
ST. LOUIS, June 20 (UPI) -- St. Louis Rams linebacker David Vobora Monday was awarded $5.4 million when a judge ruled a supplement maker negligently included steroids in its product.

Vobora was suspended for four games in 2009 after testing positive for steroids following his use of an over-the-counter nutritional supplement spray manufactured by Anti-Steroid Program LLC, also known as S.W.A.T.S.

Vobora sued S.W.A.T.S. for falsely claiming the product didn't include banned substances.

U.S. District Court Judge Rodney Sippel ruled Monday that S.W.A.T.S. had intentionally misrepresented the supplement, awarding lost compensation and $2 million for damage to the linebacker's reputation, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.

"Vindication," Vobora told the newspaper. "That's the single word I'll continue to use. From the get-go, my lawyers and I were on the same page about that. Compensation was secondary. The number one thing was to right the ship and restore my reputation."

"This case should be a warning to all supplement companies to improve their manufacturing processes and ensure their products are steroid-free," the player's attorney, R. Daniel Fleck, said in a statement.



Read more: http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2011/06/20/Rams-Vobora-wins-54M-in-stero…
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Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using...
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using whatever bullshit they come across to support their agenda and stir shit up. Get a fucking life.
What do you mean?
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11/22/2011 12:12am
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using...
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using whatever bullshit they come across to support their agenda and stir shit up. Get a fucking life.
Sunhouse wrote:
What do you mean?
I think what he means is , a new guy that has been on this site for one day comes in here and basically calls out certain riders for using PED's. Nobody knows him , but he has the inside scoop on everything? Usually when people do this kind of shit.....it has a hidden agenda of some type. I'm with 664 all the way on this.
11/22/2011 12:13am
It is absolutely unbelievable and a disgrace that at the level of AMA Supercross/Motocross there is no regular drug testing. All this does, is to encourage the use of PDA's.

Top 3 riders each race (at least) should be tested. There should also be random drug tests throughout the season.

This topic is certainly an elephant in the room...
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11/22/2011 12:26am
So, do the bracelets deliver IGF-1 topically? Or is the OP saying that they in addition to these, also produce products containing IGF-1?
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11/22/2011 4:17am
STFU NOOB!!!!
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11/22/2011 4:31am
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using...
Fucking lame. The message boards are going too far with this shit. It's a bunch of outsiders trying to claw their way into insider rank using whatever bullshit they come across to support their agenda and stir shit up. Get a fucking life.
Sunhouse wrote:
What do you mean?
jeffro503 wrote:
I think what he means is , a new guy that has been on this site for one day comes in here and basically calls out...
I think what he means is , a new guy that has been on this site for one day comes in here and basically calls out certain riders for using PED's. Nobody knows him , but he has the inside scoop on everything? Usually when people do this kind of shit.....it has a hidden agenda of some type. I'm with 664 all the way on this.
While I see how people can get angry about this kind of stuff coming up I don't think the OP claims to have any inside scoop. He has a youtube video with riders saying they endorse and use the product and brand, and that product has been shown to have illegal substances by the drug testing of other sports. That's pretty simple math to me.
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11/22/2011 5:07am
The Olympic banned substance list has so many product's that don't belong its not even funny.
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11/22/2011 5:45am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2011 5:46am
Maybe the OP should NOT have stated his concerns in such an accusatory way, but the issue (whether there is truth in it or not) does raise interesting questions. It's does seem to be a knee-jerk reaction to discount the guy just because he's a new poster.
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11/22/2011 6:13am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2011 6:14am
I can vaguely remember when they started trying to market IGF-1 as a bodybuilding supplement in the 90's... it didn't do anything then or now.
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11/22/2011 6:16am
Where is the problem with PED's other than some socialist orgs banning it?
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11/22/2011 6:26am
mmcmx wrote:
Where is the problem with PED's other than some socialist orgs banning it?
Ask Lyle Alzado, or Chris Benoit or Marco Pantani.
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11/22/2011 6:37am
notmystyle wrote:
I have seen this guy Mitch Ross and his company S.W.A.T.S. brainwashing riders to believe in his hologram stickers as a means to improve performance and...
I have seen this guy Mitch Ross and his company S.W.A.T.S. brainwashing riders to believe in his hologram stickers as a means to improve performance and heal injuries. Basically a powerband without the bracelet. I guess based on what the NFL is stating he is also selling products with Insulin Growth Factor or IGF-1 and has put out letters to the Raiders coach and numerous players to stop associating with this individual.

TPG Exclusive: NFL Orders Raiders Head Coach Hue Jackson To End Ties With Company Linked To Banned Substance
http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201101/tpg-exclusive-nfl-orders-rai…;

What is strange to me is that this guy is not scared to admit that his product has IGF-1 and has numerous articles similar to the one above posted on his site. www.swatsedge.com While going through his videos I ran across numerous motocross riders endorsing his products. Most notable Mike Alessi, Chis Blose and Tevin Tapia. Although neither Mike or Tevin admit to taking "the ultimate spray" the product containing IGF-1 Chris Blose does. Check out video time 2:10












[youtube:TCkTPfxm5C0]

The question now should be what is Feld, MXSports and AMA going to do about it?
I think these groups should bite the bullet and pay the money to have the top ten guys in each class tested by having muscle biopsies done as this is the only way to test for this drug.
And who are you?
MotoChief
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11/22/2011 6:39am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2011 6:45am
SL91 wrote:
Maybe the OP should NOT have stated his concerns in such an accusatory way, but the issue (whether there is truth in it or not) does...
Maybe the OP should NOT have stated his concerns in such an accusatory way, but the issue (whether there is truth in it or not) does raise interesting questions. It's does seem to be a knee-jerk reaction to discount the guy just because he's a new poster.
If you think that the OP is a new poster here then you have no idea what the standard operating procedure on Moto boards is. He signed up for a new id just to post this topic because he is afraid to take accountability for his actions. That, however does not mean that what he posted is incorrect. What he posted seems to be fact from what I can see.
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11/22/2011 6:43am
I I can vaguely remember when they started trying to market IGF-1 as a bodybuilding supplement in the 90's... it didn't do anything then or now.


A lot of things have changed since the 90 's and OTC steroids are very real and legal to use ..


you may wont to look at h-drol superdrol m-drol dmz p-mag epi and this is just a few of what you can buy
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11/22/2011 6:48am
Is the OP the same dude from Hippy and Hick?

If so, I remember you saying you would never post here again - and I expect you to live up to that promise.
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11/22/2011 6:50am Edited Date/Time 11/22/2011 6:54am
everybody knows what is going on but nobody wants to get caught on the wrong side of this, so everybody pretends to not belive it exists.......it will keep comming up.......some guys will always jump on who does bring it up.......and people will keep going with the flow of not beliving in the proof of it.......
its like that ancient story of a king going around naked.........and everybody commenting on how beautiful is gown was....!!!!!!!

the really sad part of all this imo, is that it is the same sport and alot of the same people that got jeff emig out of his factory kawasaki in his prime for partying with some weed........and still does the same to riders that party or use it and puts them apart with a huge label......j-law must be the exemple on this for sure but there is more and all you know it........
still if its about racers that keep that image of going to the sunday church, but do whatever to get an advantage and stiff themselves with peds to cheat their performance and gain better results by it.....well it must not be true so why test him...!!!!!
it gets even funnier when lots of racers are called cheaters cuz of their bikes or the class they race........but them non of those jumping on peds related posters here will ever admit it is a form of cheating....!!!!!!!

i think there is too much of the sport into this, and the higher level you look the more you will find, i guess it has got to a point where everybody knows something about the others, so it is really complicated to change things, no one wants to point fingers cuz they will get a lot of them pointed back......and then there is the business side of it, peds test is horrible for the business of motocross....why do it...!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11/22/2011 6:57am
I remember that charlatan go from RV to RV at a SX race a couple years ago trying to sell his shit, I think it was a Texas race. He came in Millsaps' motorhome and started give his swindler's speech, throwing his NFL cred's at people as if it was a guarantee for success. another quack promising extra endurance, extra strength, extra balance. He even did the usual stupid balance test, with or without his stupid sticker.
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11/22/2011 7:03am
mmcmx wrote:
Where is the problem with PED's other than some socialist orgs banning it?
mikem wrote:
Ask Lyle Alzado, or Chris Benoit or Marco Pantani.
Get a clue. Lyle Alzado DID NOT die from steroid abuse. It's well documented. He, being the doctor he was, made the educated guess that steroids caused his cancer. Chris Benoit was a headcase and narrcotics abuser. Steroids are relatively safe. If you are an asshole to be begin will, they will make you a bigger asshole. They dont change some mild mannered guy into a lunatic. The sports media makes these substances out to be evil when they are far from it

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