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BobbyM 12/7/2017 6:56pm
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lappedrider wrote:
You might want to start with the fact that Aldon Baker never worked with Lance Armstrong as you seem to be implying.
? Huh
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I eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
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From Wiki

Lance Armstrong responded to Ferrari's guilty verdict for malpractice in the Italian Court case:

"I was disappointed to learn of the Italian court's judgment against Dr. Michele Ferrari. Dr. Ferrari has been a longtime friend and trusted adviser to me and the USPS team, during which time he never suggested, prescribed or provided me with any performance-enhancing drugs... However, I have always said that I have zero tolerance for anyone convicted of using or facilitating the use of performance-enhancing drugs. As a result of today's developments, the USPS team and I have suspended our professional affiliation with Dr. Ferrari as we await the release of the full verdict..."[9]

In written testimony for the suit, Armstrong admitted under oath that Ferrari had been one of four individuals who had supplied him with PEDs during his cycling career.[16][17]

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BobbyM 12/7/2017 6:59pm
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jorgechavez wrote:
Did you even read anything in the thread or on the link?
LumpDog841 wrote:
Yeah I did, thanks. A bunch of allegations, without any actual facts. If he has proof Aldon is juicing people then bring it to light. My...
Yeah I did, thanks. A bunch of allegations, without any actual facts. If he has proof Aldon is juicing people then bring it to light. My point still stands, PEDs aren't going to help you have the fastest lap time at Hangtown...etc.
They aren't meant to be. They sure will help you recover quicker and last longer faster

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Camp332 wrote:
I eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
Gimme a G
Gimme an A
Gimme an I, N, ZZZZZZZZ!
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jorgechavez wrote:
Did you even read anything in the thread or on the link?
LumpDog841 wrote:
Yeah I did, thanks. A bunch of allegations, without any actual facts. If he has proof Aldon is juicing people then bring it to light. My...
Yeah I did, thanks. A bunch of allegations, without any actual facts. If he has proof Aldon is juicing people then bring it to light. My point still stands, PEDs aren't going to help you have the fastest lap time at Hangtown...etc.
BobbyM wrote:
They aren't meant to be. They sure will help you recover quicker and last longer faster
So that's why my wife has trying to get me to juice Woohoo
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mxb2 12/7/2017 7:03pm
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Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
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Camp332 12/7/2017 7:07pm
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Camp332 wrote:
I eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner!
slipdog wrote:
Gimme a G
Gimme an A
Gimme an I, N, ZZZZZZZZ!
Yup, and tomorrow is Friday, so you know it's time for the Guido Pump.
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mxb2 wrote:
Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
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I'm sure everyone has heard of the Russian doping scandal and the Olympics by now. Check out the documentary "Icarus", doping in sports has been around since the 60's.
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mxb2 wrote:
Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
cali11 wrote:
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
And what does Stew have to do with anything?
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mxb2 12/7/2017 7:18pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
cali11 wrote:
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
And what does Stew have to do with anything?
Exactly
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Taotech 12/7/2017 7:18pm
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On the subject of PED use. Would they help old worn out dirt bike riders go fast like they used to? A friend of mine was asking and I thought maybe someone here might know.
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APLMAN99 12/7/2017 7:19pm
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So the idea that some riders may be cheating, or at least pushing the envelope in what is or isn't allowed, is a big reason that JA isn't racing? I can see some of the top guys being able to afford the best regimen, but are the guys who are on the cusp of qualifying and finishing 15-22 really getting the full advantage from the best stuff?

Maybe the problem isn't other riders and their alleged "illegal" practices so much as it's the fact that they've actually dedicated themselves to trying to be successful at their craft and haven't taken their opportunities in the sport for granted. Maybe they are interested in being successful all the time, instead of "refocusing" themselves every couple of years for a short period of time until the going gets tough........

Maybe.
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mxb2 12/7/2017 7:21pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
cali11 wrote:
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
Maybe get your own house in order, before cleaning others. That's my point.
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What was the name of that dr. Jeff??

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Rhino 12/7/2017 7:22pm
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friday10 wrote:
I'm sure everyone has heard of the Russian doping scandal and the Olympics by now. Check out the documentary "Icarus", doping in sports has been around...
I'm sure everyone has heard of the Russian doping scandal and the Olympics by now. Check out the documentary "Icarus", doping in sports has been around since the 60's.
1940s. There was published literature on various types.

Most were developed originally by the Germans to promote a stronger, healthier, longer lasting soldier. Also, amphetamines, aka Adderal to combat fatigue.

This shit is far from new.
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jemcee 12/7/2017 7:25pm
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Hold onto it Jeff it's gettin away from ya (I'll let everyone else decide what 'it' is)


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cali11 12/7/2017 7:26pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Did you every repay the people who helped you pay your medical bills, or get health insurance now WoohooWoohoo
cali11 wrote:
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
mxb2 wrote:
Maybe get your own house in order, before cleaning others. That's my point.
Because all the shit Stew went through & the shit people talked about him on this form, then other top guys may have been cheating & not got caught. Do I need to draw you a fucking picture?
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MxKing809 12/7/2017 7:27pm
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Could care less
It’s actually “couldn't care less”..... I learned that from a pediphile.
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Rhino 12/7/2017 7:29pm
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When WFN was shut down, their client list had top actors, top athletes from basically every sport, all kinds of known people.

Some were paid spokespersons.......and then they tried to say they never actually used anything. LOL

Might be true for garbage supps.

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JWACK 12/7/2017 7:32pm
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Michael Scott wrote:
Could care less
MxKing809 wrote:
It’s actually “couldn't care less”..... I learned that from a pediphile.
Bro.
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friday10 12/7/2017 7:34pm
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friday10 wrote:
I'm sure everyone has heard of the Russian doping scandal and the Olympics by now. Check out the documentary "Icarus", doping in sports has been around...
I'm sure everyone has heard of the Russian doping scandal and the Olympics by now. Check out the documentary "Icarus", doping in sports has been around since the 60's.
Rhino wrote:
1940s. There was published literature on various types. Most were developed originally by the Germans to promote a stronger, healthier, longer lasting soldier. Also, amphetamines, aka...
1940s. There was published literature on various types.

Most were developed originally by the Germans to promote a stronger, healthier, longer lasting soldier. Also, amphetamines, aka Adderal to combat fatigue.

This shit is far from new.
Those damn commie's!
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mxb2 12/7/2017 7:35pm
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cali11 wrote:
Wtf does that have to do with anything? If these guys are cheating & getting away with it, that's fucked! At least Stew paid his dues.
mxb2 wrote:
Maybe get your own house in order, before cleaning others. That's my point.
cali11 wrote:
Because all the shit Stew went through & the shit people talked about him on this form, then other top guys may have been cheating &...
Because all the shit Stew went through & the shit people talked about him on this form, then other top guys may have been cheating & not got caught. Do I need to draw you a fucking picture?
Lol, kinda like speeding alot of people choose to do it, some get caught. Simple solution,don't take the chance, roll the dice then. They are all grown men.
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krypto71 12/7/2017 7:38pm
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When I read Jeff Alessi's posts I see someone concerned about the kids entering the sport and the potential for negative impacts, so yeah, lets bag the guy for his intentions.
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sparker245 12/7/2017 7:44pm
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bartziokas123 wrote:
Anyone who thinks these top athletes aren't using PED's is seriously naive. Lance armstrong was the most tested athlete on the planet and went undiscovered for...
Anyone who thinks these top athletes aren't using PED's is seriously naive. Lance armstrong was the most tested athlete on the planet and went undiscovered for years. Sorry to burst peoples bubble but PED's are happening in your sport.
Yup.
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JM485 12/7/2017 7:48pm
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krypto71 wrote:
When I read Jeff Alessi's posts I see someone concerned about the kids entering the sport and the potential for negative impacts, so yeah, lets bag...
When I read Jeff Alessi's posts I see someone concerned about the kids entering the sport and the potential for negative impacts, so yeah, lets bag the guy for his intentions.
No shit, guys on here go on and on about how they just want what's best for "the sport", but since it's Jeff bringing this stuff up they pile on like a bunch of 9th graders. Carry on bros, but don't wonder why nothing ever changes when you don't take things seriously.
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JMR1976 12/7/2017 7:52pm
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LOL At the people that think that there is no PED use in SX/MX. Enjoy the fairytale.

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