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I've heard a couple people mention that they don't like the trend of guys pulling off if they're outside the top 20, because they don't get any points for 21st or 31st, so it doesn't matter. Instead of awarding points back to 40th (as many are saying they should), what if they started deducting points after 20th?
21st gets -1. 40th gets -20 or even -25. #hhhmmm
I've heard a couple people mention that they don't like the trend of guys pulling off if they're outside the top 20, because they don't get any points for 21st or 31st, so it doesn't matter. Instead of awarding points back to 40th (as many are saying they should), what if they started deducting points after 20th?
21st gets -1. 40th gets -20 or even -25. #hhhmmm
For a championship contender who finished outside the top 20, that is already a REALLY bad day points wise, why pour salt on the wound and take away points?
I'm not really sure what incentive your system would offer other than don't show up unless you know you can be in the top 20.
The Shop
Whats the purse structure?
Don't like finishing 21st? Work harder and come back next week. It's a little brash, but it's a professional sport, not a "everyone who plays gets a prize!" sideshow.
Right?
Lappers are a problem for the leader. It comes with being the leader. They're professionals. They sort it out.
As if you'd take the "lets start subtracting points after 20th" cries seriously, anyway.
Only difference is that awarding 50 points per moto (100 for a national) throws the supercross scoring system out of whack when calculating AMA National permanent numbers and the like.
Pro's moaning because they were going to finish 21st and not get a point. God help them if their chosen talent was formula 1 or moto gp.
If you're awarding a top-100 national number, should it go to:
A: The guy who battled it out and finished 20th 24 times and got 24 points?
B: The guy who DNF'd 20 times and finished 15th 4 times?
I've been thinking about this idea, that 21st and 40th are treated the same as far as points are concerned. You get ZERO. That seems to mess up the way overalls are calculated, which also messes up the payout (since payout goes by your overall finish). I guess that would depend on whether payout is different 21-40. I would assume it is different, but haven't seen the payout scale.
For example, take Canard's day at Muddy Creek. 29-3. He scored 20pts in the second moto, which gave him enough points to score a 9th overall. It wouldn't have mattered if he scored a 40th in the first moto. He still would have scored 20pts. for 9th overall and received the same payout. That seems a bit screwy to me. I know we've evolved from the "add the two scores of 29 and 3 together" for the overall like at any local race, but it seems like that change has only screwed the privateer who went 20-17 on the day. Who was more consistent and who should get the better payout? To be even more drastic, take Brayton's 10-40 score. Scored 11pts to the privateer's 5pts., but add the scores and Brayton is at (50) and the privateer is at (37). Who should get the better payout?
It seems like a different points system, one where everyone is awarded points, would help alleviate the 21st-40th issue. Guess that depends on whether you think that really is an issue or not. IMO, I think the privateers get the shaft with this scoring system, which also affects how they get paid. That seems like a big deal to me, especially with guys that can barely afford to get to each race.
Pit Row
I don't get why they haven't done this yet.
In order to improve intensity award a bonus point for leading a lap
Back in the days before the retarded numbering system came in, privateers where a bit like those lower teams in F1, clawing a scratching for every point in order to earn the lowest # they could at the end of the year....
Shit...what was my point again? lost my train of thought.
Brilliant.
20 guys get zero number plate points even though they made the show and others did not.
Adding other ways to gain points can help tighten the points chase making a more exciting series.
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