Older honda two strokes

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12/16/2019 4:43am Edited Date/Time 12/23/2019 6:55am
After selling my 125 i’ve kinda the itch to pick up a new build. My dad bought a 1991 cr250 to ride with me and my brother but unfortunately never even got to ride it before having to sell it so i’m thinking that’s going to be the route i’ll go but i figured i’d ask a few questions before i pick one up and regret it. It’ll most likely be a 1990-1995 Cr250.
1. how hard are parts to find for a bike that’s older than me?
2. when looking at a bike this old can they potentially be anything that would ruin the budget parts wise because they’re so hard to find?
3. do companies actually produce after markets for a bike that old?
that’s the biggest ones i have but if i think of more i’ll post them below. Thanks!
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parts arent that difficult to find, things such as cranks/pistons, theres a few aftermarket options for. if you were to condider an 80's honda theres a few independant companies that make nice bits for them. denton engineering seem to have a fairly good range of bits. the evo class has taken off over here and the honda's seem to be a favourite. restoring one properly isnt cheap but they are becoming sought after.
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12/16/2019 5:00am
The 92 - 2000 has pretty much the same engine. So should be lots of parts for the engines.
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mgtkr1 wrote:
parts arent that difficult to find, things such as cranks/pistons, theres a few aftermarket options for. if you were to condider an 80's honda theres a...
parts arent that difficult to find, things such as cranks/pistons, theres a few aftermarket options for. if you were to condider an 80's honda theres a few independant companies that make nice bits for them. denton engineering seem to have a fairly good range of bits. the evo class has taken off over here and the honda's seem to be a favourite. restoring one properly isnt cheap but they are becoming sought after.
After checking out a few posts on here i’m really afraid of grabbing one that has a rusted out frame, i’m basically using facebook marketplace because i’m finding a lot more but they all seem to be in terrible shape so that’s my biggest concern.
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12/16/2019 7:49am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2019 7:51am
I've kept my wifes '90 CR250 alive for just shy of 30 years. Last year it needed an ignition module. I found a used one on E-bay. I couldn't find a new one but they are out there. I don't know about internal engine parts. Next thing to address is the rust on the lower frame tubes, not exactly sure what to do there yet.

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I'm currently mid-build on a '95 CR250. I have the chassis/suspension 100% assembled and bottom end assembled, just need to finish out the motor and a few odds and ends. There are still quite a number of aftermarket and OEM parts readily available, and for what you can't find, you can pay a fortune for it on ebay. The footpeg mount holes, upper subframe mounts and motor mounts tend to end up ovaled out. I don't think I would purchase one if I couldn't see it in person. Plan on spending more than you planned.
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12/16/2019 8:07am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2019 8:08am
zac_k3 wrote:
After selling my 125 i’ve kinda the itch to pick up a new build. My dad bought a 1991 cr250 to ride with me and my...
After selling my 125 i’ve kinda the itch to pick up a new build. My dad bought a 1991 cr250 to ride with me and my brother but unfortunately never even got to ride it before having to sell it so i’m thinking that’s going to be the route i’ll go but i figured i’d ask a few questions before i pick one up and regret it. It’ll most likely be a 1990-1995 Cr250.
1. how hard are parts to find for a bike that’s older than me?
2. when looking at a bike this old can they potentially be anything that would ruin the budget parts wise because they’re so hard to find?
3. do companies actually produce after markets for a bike that old?
that’s the biggest ones i have but if i think of more i’ll post them below. Thanks!
Are you dead set on those years? I paid $1800 if I recall correctly for a low hour 01 CR 250 two years ago. I see the years your looking at going for the same price. 02+ around $2300 on average. At least in the Seattle area. 02 + has better parts availability then my bike. However, my year is getting a little tougher but, the parts are still mostly available on eBay , Motosport, RMATV to name a few. I think the biggest thing is being patient and waiting for the right deal.
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For the above posts, i definitely plan on going and checking it out but i’m definitely trying to find a project bike. I’ve found one about an hour away and it’s in rough shape, i’m really just afraid of bringing one home and it be a complete waste such as the frame being unusable or maybe like a cracked engine case that is going to cost an absurd amount of money for a used one. I have about 2k to spend on one right now but obviously could save more money to buy a 2002-2007 cr250 and i’d really like to have one but i’m 19 and would rather just buy a project bike that i can just build a little at a time rather than just dropping all of the money i have saved from selling my Rm. 90’s bike just seem cooler to me right now anyways Cool
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12/16/2019 8:35am
A potential candidate... the guy selling has the cylinder but it’s at the machine waiting for a piston to be brought so they can bore it out.
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12/16/2019 9:31am
Not a good choice IMO
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12/16/2019 10:08am
If you have the knowledge to rebuild an entire bike and a few grand for parts then that $400 pile is right up your alley.
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on the mid 90s steel frame CR250's - engine cases (inner) and swing arm are the main things to carefully inspect. Swing arms were prone to cracking at the weld point. Regarding the cases if there's a skit plate, remove it and carefully inspect them for cracks or repairs. Inner engine cases (specifically RH, I believe) are really really hard to find.. You'll find JB Weld repaired ones on eBay still going for an arm and a leg

Huge market for 93-96 CR250's though... so definitely something to consider as it relates to buying/selling parts and bikes
12/16/2019 11:47am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2019 11:48am
I love the early Honda’s “dad had one”. I recommend it totally! I’m working on a 96 125 as we speak. A lot of fun and I love showing it off so far. Got it for 400$ Doing the 1800 collect rider with it as I get money for it.

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12/16/2019 3:01pm
^^^^Man, I would still love to do a pristine ‘93 125. Nice project build Smile
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12/16/2019 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 12/16/2019 5:46pm
I would love a 91 cr 125!! Not the best bike but was my first big bike!! Crazy hard to find one tho! I have been looking for a couple years..🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️
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on the mid 90s steel frame CR250's - engine cases (inner) and swing arm are the main things to carefully inspect. Swing arms were prone to...
on the mid 90s steel frame CR250's - engine cases (inner) and swing arm are the main things to carefully inspect. Swing arms were prone to cracking at the weld point. Regarding the cases if there's a skit plate, remove it and carefully inspect them for cracks or repairs. Inner engine cases (specifically RH, I believe) are really really hard to find.. You'll find JB Weld repaired ones on eBay still going for an arm and a leg

Huge market for 93-96 CR250's though... so definitely something to consider as it relates to buying/selling parts and bikes
thank you! stuff like this is what i’m trying to figure out.
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12/19/2019 12:52am
Facebook marketplace really is something else. yeah that’s a honda three wheeler motor in the frame.. the guy has the original engine but it appears to be locked up, i was thinking if the frame wasn’t tampered with i could probably scoop this thing up for like $200. Yeah i’m crazyShocked
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12/19/2019 9:46am
You'll save yourself a huge amount of $$$, time, and stress by just paying more for something that's in good (or even decent) condition, trust me
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12/19/2019 10:29am
Must warn you in advance....it's a disease, before you know it you'll have a garage full of CR's , or like a sick puppy like me...bunch of 80's Huskys....you've been warned my moto brother :-)
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12/19/2019 11:49am
93 - 96 is not hard. I rebuilt a 96 from a stripped frame. Hardest part to find was the rear brake return spring.


BUT......there's nothing cheap about a cheap bike. Im probably in it for $5,000. I could have about bought a brand new KX250F off the showroom floor for as much as I have spent restoring this old dog.
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zehn wrote:
You'll save yourself a huge amount of $$$, time, and stress by just paying more for something that's in good (or even decent) condition, trust me

THIS!


If he buys a $200 bike, its going to cost him $3,000 to get it running.
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12/19/2019 1:21pm

THIS!


If he buys a $200 bike, its going to cost him $3,000 to get it running.
yes you’re right, around my area all the 90-96’ bikes are either the condition i posted above or hammered out bikes that 14-17 years ride around their houses/woods and beat the shit out of them but still want 1,500+. I really don’t want to spend over 1,000 for one because of the age and what else i could buy for the amount some people are asking. It’s hard to explain to the gf why i bought a 1,300 pos when i could have saved that money as for an expensive engagement ring Whistling
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12/20/2019 8:27am
Wise man once said....

BUY ugly.......BUILD pretty
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12/20/2019 9:26am
You might expand your range to include the last steel frame which was a great bike built in 1996.
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zac_k3
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12/21/2019 5:08am
O&GDriller wrote:
You might expand your range to include the last steel frame which was a great bike built in 1996.
I’ve been looking for 90-96 everyday, several times a day.. just waiting for the right one to pop up.
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I love the early Honda’s “dad had one”. I recommend it totally! I’m working on a 96 125 as we speak. A lot of fun and...
I love the early Honda’s “dad had one”. I recommend it totally! I’m working on a 96 125 as we speak. A lot of fun and I love showing it off so far. Got it for 400$ Doing the 1800 collect rider with it as I get money for it.

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