Oh yes he did - KR air forks

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Just bashed them hard: "got worse and worse as Moto went on".
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Bultaco 7/9/2016 10:58am
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Got to have something to blame.
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PTECH 7/9/2016 10:59am
7/9/2016 10:59am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2016 11:00am
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented Roczen second half of the season fade?

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RichardLoots 7/9/2016 10:59am
7/9/2016 10:59am
oh Kenny and excuses ...dont go there , fix the problem and win moto 2
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Bruneval 7/9/2016 11:01am
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Nothing better than watching someone that is not intimidated and wants to win at all costs. Tomac was incredible!
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:01am
7/9/2016 11:01am
Hmmm... and Cooper Webb switched from spring forks, back to air (KYB PSF1, same as Kenny) and won the last two races...
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stangkag 7/9/2016 11:02am
7/9/2016 11:02am
PTECH wrote:
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented...
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented Roczen second half of the season fade?
Logic, isnt it great. I feel the 2nd moto will tell alot
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kx93rfo 7/9/2016 11:02am
7/9/2016 11:02am
In all Fairness the Forks L@@ked Awful like PoGo sticks at the End of the Race...
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slowgti 7/9/2016 11:03am
7/9/2016 11:03am
I wonder if those low stiction seals let some sand into the fork internals?
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crusty_xx 7/9/2016 11:03am
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Wow that surprised me. I expected him to say Tomac was just going quicker than he would be comfortable at so he backed it off to have save points.
He's probably right about the air forks, the internal pressure must be immense at those temperatures and at a track like that (that they don't have any data from doing 35min motos). But blaming it on only the bike like that is pretty lame
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Kawi15 7/9/2016 11:03am
7/9/2016 11:03am
There is no need for Ken to make excuses. He is dominating so far this year. It was still a great ride, and that is all he needs to do from here on out to win the Championship. Good ride for Ken.
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GoonSquad250x 7/9/2016 11:04am
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I figured he'd have an excuse & the fanboys will have even more. Kenny is one of my favorite riders, but I'd like him to man up when he loses.
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USMCMXer 7/9/2016 11:06am
7/9/2016 11:06am
Bruneval wrote:
Just bashed them hard: "got worse and worse as Moto went on".
I concur. Love watching him ride, race and his social media keeps it fun. I cringe when he is interviewed following a sub par (for him) ride.
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Cancerman 7/9/2016 11:07am
7/9/2016 11:07am
It is well documented that air forks get stiffer as they get hotter, towards the later part of a moto. Think Jackhammers! I'm sure the suspension companies are working on this. Nothing new.
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Jimmy_Sloan 7/9/2016 11:08am
7/9/2016 11:08am Edited Date/Time 7/9/2016 11:19am
GoonSquad250x wrote:
I figured he'd have an excuse & the fanboys will have even more. Kenny is one of my favorite riders, but I'd like him to man...
I figured he'd have an excuse & the fanboys will have even more. Kenny is one of my favorite riders, but I'd like him to man up when he loses.
This. Cocky when he wins, excuses when he loses.
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:10am
7/9/2016 11:10am
Honestly, the pressures inside a shock bladder changes much more than a PSF1 fork does during a long moto...

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Moto Psychic 7/9/2016 11:11am
7/9/2016 11:11am
Have to figure he must've felt something if he said he did, but also have to keep in mind Tomac is super f*****' fast at Southwick.
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RandyS 7/9/2016 11:14am
7/9/2016 11:14am
I only watched a small part of the race, 2 laps of so before Rozen passed Bogle and 30 seconds or so after Tomac passed Roczen. That was the Tomac of last year. I think Eli just got over the fear of falling again. Watch out, it might not be over. Roczen is one DNF away from it being a race again.
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Lightning78 7/9/2016 11:16am
7/9/2016 11:16am
Geez with all this technology you think they could build a stabilizing blow-off one-way check valve that once air pressures reach a certain point at some part of the travel or maybe is a linear set up that it would maintain consistent pressure they got to be at least using nitrogen right?
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:19am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Geez with all this technology you think they could build a stabilizing blow-off one-way check valve that once air pressures reach a certain point at some...
Geez with all this technology you think they could build a stabilizing blow-off one-way check valve that once air pressures reach a certain point at some part of the travel or maybe is a linear set up that it would maintain consistent pressure they got to be at least using nitrogen right?
One problem is when the system blows off. Some might simply say "He likes it at 32 PSI, make it blow off at 34PSI"... But the pressure rises as the fork goes through the stroke and compresses the chamber (changing the volume)... so the number would have to based off bottoming or near bottoming.
SeaClassExpert 7/9/2016 11:19am
7/9/2016 11:19am
PTECH wrote:
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented...
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented Roczen second half of the season fade?
Do you even follow motocross? He literally failed to finish a moto at GH because one part of his air forks went out (Yes i know that the RCH team put it on, not KYB, but still)
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:20am
7/9/2016 11:20am
One other note: RCH had Showa spring forks on his bike during outdoors last year... Ken Roczen tested KYB's PSF1 forks during the off-season and asked RCH to buy those for him...
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Bruce372 7/9/2016 11:32am
7/9/2016 11:32am
Bruneval wrote:
Just bashed them hard: "got worse and worse as Moto went on".
There is no point trying to use reason and logic mate, many people want air forks to fail since they can't get past the dogma of the only solution to a problem they can think of.
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:34am
7/9/2016 11:34am
Bruce372 wrote:
There is no point trying to use reason and logic mate, many people want air forks to fail since they can't get past the dogma of...
There is no point trying to use reason and logic mate, many people want air forks to fail since they can't get past the dogma of the only solution to a problem they can think of.
I just like posting the facts. Laughing
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RMZ# 7/9/2016 11:36am
7/9/2016 11:36am
Don't be like Reed Kroc!!!
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mxb2 7/9/2016 11:37am
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Bruce372 wrote:
There is no point trying to use reason and logic mate, many people want air forks to fail since they can't get past the dogma of...
There is no point trying to use reason and logic mate, many people want air forks to fail since they can't get past the dogma of the only solution to a problem they can think of.
ML512 wrote:
I just like posting the facts. Laughing
Some people on vital dont like facts and truth. Ruins the excuse,conspiracy theory.
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Mit12 7/9/2016 11:45am
7/9/2016 11:45am
Roczen needs to eat a hamburger and a slice of pizza and just admit that he was tired.
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:49am
7/9/2016 11:49am
Sarcasm alert* Cooper Webb's air forks sure looked like shit when he was running down on Jeremy Martin on spring forks there in that first moto... Laughing In all seriousness, Cooper was killing it in that moto...

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