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I was just Reading about GNCC mountain bike racing which I really really want to try someday, I went to the one at the Loretta Lynns amateur national to watch and it looked so fun!
If I Can ever afford one I definitely will get one and hope to in the future.. I also think E-mountain bike racing is gonna grow in popularity big time and most likely be in every state in the near future, Although I would guess that there will be different variations of it. Here are the Current rules https://gnccracing.com/page/emtb-competition-rules
Anyway about the number system. I THINK ITS Awesome the way they are doing it. I'm sure I've said it before on here but I hate the permanent number system and I really wish we could go back to the top 100 in points get that number for the following year. In my opinion they should do that in both classes and just have a different background color all the way through 1-100 just like they do now with the number one!
NATIONAL OVERALL NUMBER ASSIGNMENT:
The electronic scoring system provides a complete overall race finish for each event. Points will be accumulated for National Number assignment and can be viewed as a gage toward overall ranking for the year.
National Numbers will be assigned based on overall finishes in a minimum of 4 events, with as many as 6 events counting. The minimum number of events does not have to be in the same class, but it must be in the same discipline.
Final National Numbers will be awarded to the top 20 overall first, regardless of number of events entered, then to remaining riders.
Ties: Ties in the top 20 National Numbers will be broken by the most first place overall finishes, then by the most second place overall finishes, etc., until the tie is broken. Ties for remaining national numbers will be broken by the higher overall finish in the final race of the season.
If I Can ever afford one I definitely will get one and hope to in the future.. I also think E-mountain bike racing is gonna grow in popularity big time and most likely be in every state in the near future, Although I would guess that there will be different variations of it. Here are the Current rules https://gnccracing.com/page/emtb-competition-rules
Anyway about the number system. I THINK ITS Awesome the way they are doing it. I'm sure I've said it before on here but I hate the permanent number system and I really wish we could go back to the top 100 in points get that number for the following year. In my opinion they should do that in both classes and just have a different background color all the way through 1-100 just like they do now with the number one!
NATIONAL OVERALL NUMBER ASSIGNMENT:
The electronic scoring system provides a complete overall race finish for each event. Points will be accumulated for National Number assignment and can be viewed as a gage toward overall ranking for the year.
National Numbers will be assigned based on overall finishes in a minimum of 4 events, with as many as 6 events counting. The minimum number of events does not have to be in the same class, but it must be in the same discipline.
Final National Numbers will be awarded to the top 20 overall first, regardless of number of events entered, then to remaining riders.
Ties: Ties in the top 20 National Numbers will be broken by the most first place overall finishes, then by the most second place overall finishes, etc., until the tie is broken. Ties for remaining national numbers will be broken by the higher overall finish in the final race of the season.
And nearly every top rider chooses to run their "permanent" 3-digit number instead.
The Shop
Have to be, if you want a #1 on your bike, you'll have to buy it
My issue is in how the points are awarded, 450 and 250, and how 250 SX points are tallied is bogus IMO
I also think the numbers should be awarded only to 250/450 SX/MX event/race winners and past champions.
Need to have at least won a race to get a 450 perm #....Just my feelings on it
Initials with a 3rd # to differentiate between those with common initials is so much simpler.
40-50 years later we have FB sites posting up pictures of the good old days and most have no idea who the riders are. It's just dumb. F*** tradition. Numbers were created back when teams used to have jerseys used year after year by different players.
Even here the common language is initials. ET3, JS7 etc. otherwise you have no idea who is 3 and who is 7.
This all comes down to race teams being part of the corporate marketing budget. Assigning numbers for top factory riders is bad for business.
On the other hand, if they only allow 450 champs to get a single-digit, there won't be many single-digit riders. But maybe that's fine. That would make a single-digit number that much more impressive, and will spread out the amount of time between riders claiming those numbers.
How many motocross riders make money from number-based merchandise? They’re not even allowed to sell any at races.
Numbers should reflect status/ranking IMO. Makes it easier for new fans to identify the good guys too.
If all of the above is BS, why do AMA champs have to run #1?
Pit Row
"Most other sports players have a permanent number associated with them". Rossi is 46, Kobe Bryant is 24 etc. I have to go with Tarz483 on this one. Why would we want motocross to be like "Other" sports ? The old system of the number you run this year is where you finished last year was awesome and brutally honest. The lower your number, the more of a badass you are. The hardcore fans will know who's what number each year, we always could back then why wouldn't we be able to now ? I always thought it was fun to see the riders new numbers each year, and single digit numbers meant more than "Oh he won one year (could have been 9 years ago) and he wanted number 8 so he's number 8 "permanently" even though he might not have finished higher than 73rd since the year he won, Oh but wait there is no number 8 duh nevermind ... I know this subject is like beating a dead horse and it will never go back to the time when their number on their bike meant more than just an identifying brand, but I'll never be convinced what we have now is a better system. The old system was honest, and unique to our sport. But fuck all that we want the average Johnny to know that #2 is McGrath.... oh wait, I meant Villopoto, or shit... wait a second, I mean Webb..... Ok blast away
I like that the champ has be be number 1. Maybe top 3 or top 5 numbers are assigned then everyone else gets to choose what they want.
OR what place either of them finished in any series in the past 5 years?
I cant but if they did numbers by their finish in the previous series we would all know that just by the glance of a picture.
It just adds something for the fans in my opinion, And the permanent number system helps out a very select few in my opinion and the ones it helps with branding are guys that are already famous and would be either way. Just my opinion I understand not everyone agrees and that's ok it makes it a fun subject to debate.
In the photo below we can quickly see that Eli finished 1st in the previous season, what place did Marvin #25 And Barcia #51 finish in that previous season? And how much more does Barcia make because he is #51 ? How much more do you think Marvin makes because he is number 25?
I know for sure Marvin has finished 2nd in a few series I would think that running #2 for those years would be better for his popularity.
It would be even better if we knew WHO they were. Initials FTW!
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