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Now it's official Suzuki is leaving MXGP series
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It's crazy.
They wouldn't have anything in pro MX or SX racing without JGR.
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Gee i wonder if we should still do these stupid shootouts and shit all over bikes so that a bunch of overweight goon riders can decide which one is best
Nah its cool fam
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Not really sure what you mean by that....but as someone who recently bought an rmz, it is a bummer but it still wont change how i see the company or their bikes. Suzuki is still has MotoGP and still has AMA road racing if Im not mistaken. Clearly they dont see a solid financial reason to keep the team, maybe their shifting the focus to MotoGP and GSXR line up which im sure makes them a pretty penny. Still love my RMZ and honestly its been the bike that put the biggest smile on my face, i love it.
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I'm really struggling to see the correlation
Between trusting your life on a bike and the manufacturer not being at the pro races?
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The above may be fact or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting. I am not sure, you have no chance.
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It will be sad if this is the beginning of the end of Suzuki dirt bikes, I have grown up with them and bought a few, 02 and 05 250t were my favourites but also bought the Rmz 250 04 , which though got rubbish reveiws I had no problems and enjoyed riding it 
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scottydogmx wrote:It will be sad if this is the beginning of the end of Suzuki dirt bikes, I have grown up with them and bought a few, 02 and 05 ...more
The 04 RMZ 250 was actually a Kawasaki 
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scottydogmx wrote:It will be sad if this is the beginning of the end of Suzuki dirt bikes, I have grown up with them and bought a few, 02 and 05 ...more
I think it is. Lets say that the relationship between Yamaha and JGR would've lasted, they would've been out in US racing too(i don't see any other privately funded team out there with JGRs ambitions and organization). Suzuki got lucky when JGR got desperate and wanted to change bike brands. Lets remember that JGRs deal with Suzuki was actually economically worse for JGR compared to what they could've got with Yamaha last year when they made the switch.
It's sad.
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The market is not growing in general, we have 2 new brands inHusky and KTM reaching volumes (eating market share). Someone has to give.
It will be Suzuki.
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Cole_Ughetti wrote:hopefully putting money into R&D
By shutting down their two most significant race technology testing operations?
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I am not as pessimistic as a lot of people. Suzuki seems to always have had financial issues and you have to make choices. My thought is Suzuki had to make a descision as to what series to invest their money. They chose MotoGP, MX/SX in the USA, MotoAmerica, British Superbike and a few others. It is not unusual for an OEM to skip some racing series. Honda and Kawasaki don't race in MotoAmerica but people aren't crying foul there.
I don't see this as Suzuki failing in the dirt bike market. I think they would rather sell street bikes. Probabaly more $$$ in it anyway.
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Financial issues or smart with their money? because facts show they have zero
Financial issues and make more than everyone combined minus Honda. You won’t see them lose 2 bill a year like Yamaha did in 09 and you will see them make far more than 70 mill net profit like everyones favorite ktm. When your net profit is 1.5 bill a year you’re doing something right. Face it dirt bikes are a tiny almost nothing market
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Cole_Ughetti wrote:hopefully putting money into R&D
Like Dirty Points mentioned, you are not putting money into R&D if you shut down your 2 most significant race situation testing programs.
The whole 2017 season was like a big public R&D project for the MXGP guys with the new bike.
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They are selling 40.000 Suzuki-bikes OVERALL in North America, and 50.000 in Europe. That includes everything that is 2-wheels.
So you can imagine the sales for MX on those areas maybe being 10%, more like 5% is my guess. Say they have 4000 usd in margin to run teams, R&D etc on, you get what, $18.000.000. Take the number that Genova put and the money our guys are making in the sport and you quickly see there is little room for investment.
I think they will have to fold up the MX-division eventually. They make one more round with a refined 450 for 2019, and the new 250 but if that is not a big success they are out.
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Wow, that's a lot of MXGP teams folding next season. I've lost count.
Well, GL wanted the series to be exclusive...I guess this is one way for that to happen.
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TriRacer27 wrote:Wow, that's a lot of MXGP teams folding next season. I've lost count.
Well, GL wanted the series to be exclusive...I guess ...more
But there are popping up new ones. This has happened before and will happen again. Teams fold and new teams take their places.
But to have a factory 450 effort just go away is not a good thing.
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Construction wrote:Financial issues or smart with their money? because facts show they have zero
Financial issues and make more than everyone ...more
New screen name, same old nut hugging
It is a shame they are leaving, but I am sure they are not in financial turmoil
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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....
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Construction wrote:Financial issues or smart with their money? because facts show they have zero
Financial issues and make more than everyone ...more
According to their financial reports, the motorcycle segment LOST 900M yen last year.........
They lost over 10B yen the year before.....
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They should have at least waiting another year, so the "new" bike could be seen on the track.
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