Posts
1484
Joined
8/15/2006
Location
Murrieta, CA
US
Fantasy
134th
Edited Date/Time
7/27/2022 6:50am
Since you’re only as fast as your last race in our industry, I just had fun collecting some data from Washougal from the potential MXDN riders + a sleeper who came out, imo, Saturday knowing Anderson is not available…
Moto 1s:
-First American 250: Justin Cooper 16 laps in 35:34 (Hunter’s time) + 38 sec = 36:14. Average lap times: 2’17”7
-Second America 250: Seth Hammaker 16 laps in Hunter’s time + 41sec = 36:17. Average lap times: 2”18’0
-First American 450: Eli Tomac 16 laps in 35:37(with a crash). Average lap times: 2’15”6
-Second America 450: Chase Sexton 16 laps in 35:36 (with a crash). Average lap times: 2’15”8
-First potential MXDN 250: Justin Barcia 16 laps in 35:37 + 47sec = 36:24. Average lap times: 2’18”2
-Second potential MXDN 250: Christian Craig 16 laps in 35:37 + 48sec = 36:25. Average lap times: 2’17”9
Moto 2s:
-First American 250: Justin Cooper 16 laps in 36:11 (faster than his 1st moto overall time). Average lap times: 2’17”8
-Second America 250: Max Vohland 16 laps in Justin’s time + 30sec = 36:41. Average lap times: 2”19’5
-First American 450: Chase Sexton 16 laps in 35:24. Average lap times: 2’14”8
-Second America 450: Eli Tomac 16 laps in 35:32. Average lap times: 2’15”3
-First potential MXDN 250: Christian Craig 16 laps in 35:24 + 59sec = 36:23. Average lap times: 2’18”0
-Second potential MXDN 250: Justin Barcia 16 laps in 35:24 + 99sec = 37:03 (with a crash). Average lap times: 2’20”9
-New MXDN contender/sleeper: Ryan Dungey 16 laps in 35:24 + 52sec = 36:36. Average lap times: 2’17’7
Make you own conclusion. Put in fact the amount of time a 450 rider would lose racing a 250 and how much better the track was for the 250 riders in Washougal since their motos were before the 450s…
I advocated with Sexton/Anderson in 450 and Eli in 250 which most people think I’m crazy for… With Anderson out and the way JC32 rode in moto 2, in timed practice, his usual great starts, his powerful bike and the fact he’s getting his mojo back, he should maybe get back in the MXDN 250 ride convo… And why not add Dungey in the mix after his Washougal performance if they want to drop someone. He was in the last USA MXDN winning team after all...
Moto 1s:
-First American 250: Justin Cooper 16 laps in 35:34 (Hunter’s time) + 38 sec = 36:14. Average lap times: 2’17”7
-Second America 250: Seth Hammaker 16 laps in Hunter’s time + 41sec = 36:17. Average lap times: 2”18’0
-First American 450: Eli Tomac 16 laps in 35:37(with a crash). Average lap times: 2’15”6
-Second America 450: Chase Sexton 16 laps in 35:36 (with a crash). Average lap times: 2’15”8
-First potential MXDN 250: Justin Barcia 16 laps in 35:37 + 47sec = 36:24. Average lap times: 2’18”2
-Second potential MXDN 250: Christian Craig 16 laps in 35:37 + 48sec = 36:25. Average lap times: 2’17”9
Moto 2s:
-First American 250: Justin Cooper 16 laps in 36:11 (faster than his 1st moto overall time). Average lap times: 2’17”8
-Second America 250: Max Vohland 16 laps in Justin’s time + 30sec = 36:41. Average lap times: 2”19’5
-First American 450: Chase Sexton 16 laps in 35:24. Average lap times: 2’14”8
-Second America 450: Eli Tomac 16 laps in 35:32. Average lap times: 2’15”3
-First potential MXDN 250: Christian Craig 16 laps in 35:24 + 59sec = 36:23. Average lap times: 2’18”0
-Second potential MXDN 250: Justin Barcia 16 laps in 35:24 + 99sec = 37:03 (with a crash). Average lap times: 2’20”9
-New MXDN contender/sleeper: Ryan Dungey 16 laps in 35:24 + 52sec = 36:36. Average lap times: 2’17’7
Make you own conclusion. Put in fact the amount of time a 450 rider would lose racing a 250 and how much better the track was for the 250 riders in Washougal since their motos were before the 450s…
I advocated with Sexton/Anderson in 450 and Eli in 250 which most people think I’m crazy for… With Anderson out and the way JC32 rode in moto 2, in timed practice, his usual great starts, his powerful bike and the fact he’s getting his mojo back, he should maybe get back in the MXDN 250 ride convo… And why not add Dungey in the mix after his Washougal performance if they want to drop someone. He was in the last USA MXDN winning team after all...
Did you see his interview with ML after Washougal and how much he was grinning?
He is hungry.
Edit: Sorry...it was the RacerX Interview...at the end of the RD segment you couldn't take the smile off his face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79XZiduCht8
I must admit... Dungey is an interesting pick. I just wonder how well he would do dropping down...he's been "off" a 250 a lot longer than the other 450 guys. Truly... It would be epic to see Dunge on MXoN team 5-6 years after retirement.
The Shop
Tomac 250
what happens if J.coop goes 5-5 next week? or finishes 40+ seconds behind the leaders?
is he still going to be in the discussion?
or is 1 race result the determining factor
without a holeshot.. he finishes where he starts.
We'd only need 1 good moto from Cooper and 2 from Eli & Sexton.
Tomac
Sexton
Craig on the 250 first pick
Cobra AKA DV12 Merci beaucoup for the time you spent crunching the numbers. I really enjoyed seeing you on Pulp recently and love how passionate you are about our sport. it's a better sport with you in it mon ami.
You make some good points my man.
Cooper has shown he has sped but he’s also shown he is very inconsistent. At this point, I think as long as we have Eli and Chase on 450’s, we could still win with either Barcia, Craig or Cooper on the 250. First time in a long time we have a solid team no matter which way you shake it.
Pit Row
No shame in accepting the US's focus on SX and one day Nationals have created the best SX racers on the planet but at the expense of our MX skills.
Reason I put Dungey MX1 is that he gets a break, doesn't race 2 motos in a row. He's been retired 5 years, he could probably use the break more than Chase who would be in better shape.
I was rooting for Anderson, as he really gives it his all at MXDN.... but he needs back surgery...
Dungey..... also a great pick..... the Diesel always has given his all at MXDN.. and he truly has elite level speed...
Eli and Chase are potentially going to go 1-2 in both motos. Maybe even favored to do so. No disrespect to the GP greats, who I honestly think are a huge threat, but the speed these two guys are displaying has to at least equal what the euros are going to bring. Add in the homefield advantage and I'd say our MX1 and MX3 results are going to be fine if those are the guys. Get us a single top 5 in MX2 and it's basically game over.
EDIT: I just realized the scoring goes on actual moto finish now. Even better. All you have to do as a 250 guy is get somewhere in the top half of the riders, and odds are you'll beat most of your class. (Any Vialle/Villopoto/O'Mara rides notwithstanding.)
Last year Italy won on 37 pts, in 2019 Netherlands won on 18 pts, in 2018 France won on 32 pts (and remember Netherlands got third with basically only 4 scoring motos due to 1-1, 1-2), in 2017 France won on 20 pts, 2016 France won on 29 pts…
In my opinion no other country can field a team (this year) that can go 1-1, 1-2, and even something in the ballpark of 1-3, 3-4 would leave some wiggle room for the 250 guy I think.
Now, the ball is round (unless you play football with your hands) so anything can happen, but not putting Tomac in MX1 and Sexton in MX-Open is a big mistake in my opinion.
Still thinking it's between Craig and Cooper. I'm betting they choose Craig.
He’d use everything the bike has & probably O/A his Moto’s.
Post a reply to: Not just another MXDN post...