No Glen Helen

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What's fucked is DC wanting them to make the track shorter and also keep it smooth for the races. Last year GH was one of two tracks that they let get rough..(True old school rough). And when I brought it up to DC he told me it wasn't mx sports that were wanting the track worked on before motos. he said it was NBC that wasnted the tracks smoother and faster. Come to find out it was him and MX sports. I'm really starting to see a pattern of bullshit stories from MX sports.

Just when you think somebody is out there(DC MxSports) for the good of the sport you find out they're full of shit and out there for the good of their pockets..
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3/24/2010 9:08pm
Remember the Prequel ?

Here's a plan... Offer a huge purse at the 4-Stroke, National. Prior to the first MX National, 90% of the riders will show.
The venue might even make money. No fencing to buy, no stupid, costly AMA/MX Sports requirements...

But like I said last year... I didn't think it would happen this year.
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3/24/2010 9:18pm
Torco1 wrote:
On a positive note......at least I wont have to sit in the 12 hours of traffic it takes to get out of there after the national.
LOL. It seems like you've never been to Pala. The freeway access is even farer and the road that goes to the track is really congested at time, especially on a week end (casino etc..)

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3/24/2010 9:19pm
Torco1 wrote:
On a positive note......at least I wont have to sit in the 12 hours of traffic it takes to get out of there after the national.
Neutra wrote:
LOL. It seems like you've never been to Pala. The freeway access is even farer and the road that goes to the track is really congested...
LOL. It seems like you've never been to Pala. The freeway access is even farer and the road that goes to the track is really congested at time, especially on a week end (casino etc..)
Yeah good luck getting out of there.
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3/24/2010 9:23pm
Shawn142 wrote:
Some of you guys get way too emotional for what I presume are grown adults. The only person I've seen so far in this post with...
Some of you guys get way too emotional for what I presume are grown adults. The only person I've seen so far in this post with a legit complaint is the guy who already booked tickets and a hotel. The rest are the vocal minority that no one really cares about beyond this forum. The race will go on at GH or another track. It'll pull spectators and be shown on TV, and as a fan of the sport I'll watch it along with everyone else who doesn't feel MX Sports isn't being purist by retaining a track stuck in the middle of the F'in desert.

But if you really have to spout an opinion why not wait until we actually have some real details? People are so knee jerk sometimes.
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Build it and they WILL come
it's already built...and it's located in Alabama
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3/24/2010 9:26pm
April Fools?
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NOBODY can replace Glen Helen. NOBODY at this time. The track owner knows it and maybe that's why they were staying on their ground. The whole thing sucks big time!
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3/24/2010 9:31pm
Will luongo speak to Glen Helen and try for a GP there now?

His demands are probably 10 times worse though
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3/24/2010 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2010 9:34pm
MX Culture wrote:
it's already built...and it's located in Alabama
Bingo but thats pissin into the wind. They would never come down here, sadly enough. They still think were marrying cousins and spitting into spittoons.
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3/24/2010 9:34pm
DC is the best thing to happen to MX. Without MX Sports motocross would be dead right now. MX Sports is going to take motocross to the next level. The haters on here is the reason motocross has taken so long to be a big sport. Some people hate changes
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3/24/2010 9:35pm
jmx411 wrote:
DC is the best thing to happen to MX. Without MX Sports motocross would be dead right now. MX Sports is going to take motocross to...
DC is the best thing to happen to MX. Without MX Sports motocross would be dead right now. MX Sports is going to take motocross to the next level. The haters on here is the reason motocross has taken so long to be a big sport. Some people hate changes
Some people hate a root canal, wonder why?
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3/24/2010 9:41pm
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Despite what you hear over there with the people that ride there all the time, most riders did not like GH. Most teams did not like...
Despite what you hear over there with the people that ride there all the time, most riders did not like GH. Most teams did not like GH.


If you were on a ship and eleven people were rowing one way but the other fought with you the whole time when you asked to row the right way...would you keep them onboard?

Stay tuned.
Steve aren't you in a tough position to comment without bias? Afterall you used to work for DC and now you work for Transworld. I'm calling BS because the fact is that GH is SoCal MX and virtually every Thursday this time of year is a Open Nat MX practice and where the factories are testing for the outdoors. It can be a bit of a shithole but it is what it is: the epicenter of the MX industry.

Did the management of GH make the most noise? You bet your ass they did as they have the least to lose, they don't need the National's the same way Colorado or the Texas rounds do. Even Washougal is a fish in a barrel. Hangtown? effin eh dude, its run by the DirtDiggers club you think they are going to fight that hard? Profit is an extra buck at the end of the race weekend. Hell they lease it out the rest of the year. The bulk of the tracks are firmly influenced by the folks in Morgantown. The management of GH was the only group that was going to put up a real fight.
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3/24/2010 9:42pm
Lifted from Proride.. The guy posted this in 5:00 hour...

There will be a Press Release soon about the National at Glen Helen. I am sure Davey has said his piece and I am sure you will here the other side. I cannot release any details but to say if you ran a business and this contract was given to you and mind you I do not know the wording just what the Lawyers said you would not be inclined to sign it and be able to run you business. I think some of you might be surprised how the West Coast Tracks have been treated. Dr. Feldcamp is a Business Man and in his and the Lawyers eyes this would not be a good business deal. You might say he has money and what about us. Money is only one of the points its about Pride. Some will be happy to see Glen Helen lose it and others will miss it. I don't care either way because it has become way to political and the fun is gone. It is a shame but just look at where we are. The only real sports are in the schools and they are going away because of politics. The pro level it has only become a business and the sport has left. Enjoy your day and keep your eyes open because Glen Helen has some news coming soon
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3/24/2010 9:44pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:38pm
There is nobody in this industry that is as passionate, connected, clear-headed, and capable of stewarding outdoor MX than DC. Nobody. He and his family have literally, in the most pure definition, dedicated their lives to this sport and this industry. It may not be immediately clear, and some people may not like it, but if MX Sports is doing something, it is for good reason, and there is no need for a lynch mob.


GuyB, what has this place become?


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3/24/2010 9:48pm
Brtp4 wrote:
There is nobody in this industry that is as passionate, connected, clear-headed, and capable of stewarding outdoor MX than DC. Nobody. He and his family have...
There is nobody in this industry that is as passionate, connected, clear-headed, and capable of stewarding outdoor MX than DC. Nobody. He and his family have literally, in the most pure definition, dedicated their lives to this sport and this industry. It may not be immediately clear, and some people may not like it, but if MX Sports is doing something, it is for good reason, and there is no need for a lynch mob.


GuyB, what has this place become?


BP
I'm beginning to think if Mx Sports is doing something, at the end of the day, it's whats best for MX Sports and DC himself.

How many national tracks does his family run???
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3/24/2010 9:49pm
mxjef wrote:
Yes, DC is trying to do whats best for MX, as long as it's good for (his) business.
bobby397 wrote:
his business? i think he could care a less about money, just making the riders happy. the nationals were almost dead untill last year, i saw...
his business? i think he could care a less about money, just making the riders happy. the nationals were almost dead untill last year, i saw more tv coverage and better racing. just because the national has moved doesnt mean you should forget the good things DC is doing for the sport.
nationals almost dead?? how many nats did you attend from 2000-2008??? the ones i attended had more than 23 pro 450's on the gate and the lines at the porta shitters were usually long enough i was nearly piss'n down my leg before i got in....
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3/24/2010 9:51pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 9:38pm
Brtp4 wrote:
There is nobody in this industry that is as passionate, connected, clear-headed, and capable of stewarding outdoor MX than DC. Nobody. He and his family have...
There is nobody in this industry that is as passionate, connected, clear-headed, and capable of stewarding outdoor MX than DC. Nobody. He and his family have literally, in the most pure definition, dedicated their lives to this sport and this industry. It may not be immediately clear, and some people may not like it, but if MX Sports is doing something, it is for good reason, and there is no need for a lynch mob.


GuyB, what has this place become?


BP
Grow up Pollyanna, it's business and now when it least needed to be, its going to be a competitive business.


What is at issue today? This just makes it that much harder for anyone who races for profit to make one.
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Steve aren't you in a tough position to comment without bias? Afterall you used to work for DC and now you work for Transworld. I'm calling...
Steve aren't you in a tough position to comment without bias? Afterall you used to work for DC and now you work for Transworld. I'm calling BS because the fact is that GH is SoCal MX and virtually every Thursday this time of year is a Open Nat MX practice and where the factories are testing for the outdoors. It can be a bit of a shithole but it is what it is: the epicenter of the MX industry.

Did the management of GH make the most noise? You bet your ass they did as they have the least to lose, they don't need the National's the same way Colorado or the Texas rounds do. Even Washougal is a fish in a barrel. Hangtown? effin eh dude, its run by the DirtDiggers club you think they are going to fight that hard? Profit is an extra buck at the end of the race weekend. Hell they lease it out the rest of the year. The bulk of the tracks are firmly influenced by the folks in Morgantown. The management of GH was the only group that was going to put up a real fight.
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying DC?

I'm just telling you the truth about GH, I've been around the riders and teams and heard this time and time again. The reason people go there is because it's close and it's rough but even with that said, by the time you get to east coast dirt, your settings are all over anyways.

I hear what you're saying about GH making noise but go to some other nationals and then go to GH. It's a different deal and you can tell they don't conform. If everyone doesn't want to get on-board, then you have to leave them behind.

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3/24/2010 10:03pm
WORCSRacer wrote:
Steve aren't you in a tough position to comment without bias? Afterall you used to work for DC and now you work for Transworld. I'm calling...
Steve aren't you in a tough position to comment without bias? Afterall you used to work for DC and now you work for Transworld. I'm calling BS because the fact is that GH is SoCal MX and virtually every Thursday this time of year is a Open Nat MX practice and where the factories are testing for the outdoors. It can be a bit of a shithole but it is what it is: the epicenter of the MX industry.

Did the management of GH make the most noise? You bet your ass they did as they have the least to lose, they don't need the National's the same way Colorado or the Texas rounds do. Even Washougal is a fish in a barrel. Hangtown? effin eh dude, its run by the DirtDiggers club you think they are going to fight that hard? Profit is an extra buck at the end of the race weekend. Hell they lease it out the rest of the year. The bulk of the tracks are firmly influenced by the folks in Morgantown. The management of GH was the only group that was going to put up a real fight.
Matthes wrote:
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying...
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying DC?

I'm just telling you the truth about GH, I've been around the riders and teams and heard this time and time again. The reason people go there is because it's close and it's rough but even with that said, by the time you get to east coast dirt, your settings are all over anyways.

I hear what you're saying about GH making noise but go to some other nationals and then go to GH. It's a different deal and you can tell they don't conform. If everyone doesn't want to get on-board, then you have to leave them behind.

What is it that the riders dont like about the track ?
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3/24/2010 10:07pm
Matthes wrote:
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying...
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying DC?

I'm just telling you the truth about GH, I've been around the riders and teams and heard this time and time again. The reason people go there is because it's close and it's rough but even with that said, by the time you get to east coast dirt, your settings are all over anyways.

I hear what you're saying about GH making noise but go to some other nationals and then go to GH. It's a different deal and you can tell they don't conform. If everyone doesn't want to get on-board, then you have to leave them behind.

Whaaaaa the riders think Glen Helen is to rough.. BoooHooooo!!!!

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3/24/2010 10:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/24/2010 10:16pm
I guarantee that the MXA story at the MXA website only tells one side of the story. Of course everything they print will be straight from Jodys mouth and sworn to be the gospel truth because they have no reason to lie. Jody has this elitist attitude about him being the original moto god and no one know more than he does about motocross. I would wait and see how it plays out and hear all the sides to the story. Motocross will survive without Glen Helen.
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3/24/2010 10:22pm
Matthes wrote:
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying...
Hey, I have no dog in this fight. So I used to work for DC and now work for TWMX...doesn't that mean I should be burying DC?

I'm just telling you the truth about GH, I've been around the riders and teams and heard this time and time again. The reason people go there is because it's close and it's rough but even with that said, by the time you get to east coast dirt, your settings are all over anyways.

I hear what you're saying about GH making noise but go to some other nationals and then go to GH. It's a different deal and you can tell they don't conform. If everyone doesn't want to get on-board, then you have to leave them behind.

Oh I don't think there is much debate about them being non conforming... Before it was eff DC it was eff the AMA. As far as getting left behind? Pretty certain Glen Helen isn't just going to pass quietly into the past. It is far from over you know it and I know it. Best case? There will be a West Coast MX and East Coast MX kinda like WORCS vs GNCC... If someone is really smart there will a "National Championship" round that floats around at the end of the year.

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3/24/2010 10:25pm
What a drag. GH was something to look forward to every year. No matter how it happened t's pretty lame.
3/24/2010 10:26pm
All I can say for sure is DC is reading every one of these posts.........and just dying to respond.

But the lawyers are still billing out hours.

DC screwed this one up, no matter how difficult GH was being.

DC is the monopoly and that is not looking like he loves the sport.

Make money at the other 11 rounds if the jewel is only gonna let you break even.

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3/24/2010 10:27pm
DC is an MX soldier. He took this gig without a whole lot to gain. ( so it seemed to me) Put himself in a tough position for the good of the sport. I don't know what happened, but his family has always seemed to have the best interests of MX in mind.

I say move on and forget it......1/3 of the damned SX series in already in Cali. F'em.
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3/24/2010 10:29pm
lostboy819 wrote:
I guarantee that the MXA story at the MXA website only tells one side of the story. Of course everything they print will be straight from...
I guarantee that the MXA story at the MXA website only tells one side of the story. Of course everything they print will be straight from Jodys mouth and sworn to be the gospel truth because they have no reason to lie. Jody has this elitist attitude about him being the original moto god and no one know more than he does about motocross. I would wait and see how it plays out and hear all the sides to the story. Motocross will survive without Glen Helen.
+1 I've though MXA was a joke for over 10 years.
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3/24/2010 10:31pm
JB 19 wrote:
DC is an MX soldier. He took this gig without a whole lot to gain. ( so it seemed to me) Put himself in a tough...
DC is an MX soldier. He took this gig without a whole lot to gain. ( so it seemed to me) Put himself in a tough position for the good of the sport. I don't know what happened, but his family has always seemed to have the best interests of MX in mind.

I say move on and forget it......1/3 of the damned SX series in already in Cali. F'em.
I'd trade all 6 SX rounds for 1 GH National. Hey that just me though. I love MOTOCROSS.

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