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They are the ones that are pushing religion and right and wrong onto people.....yet, they're the ones that get busted for molesting their own sisters.....or doing unforgivable shit to kids.....beat their wives or kids.....cheat on their wives jack-off in their cars in front of schools......you get the idea.
I've had my own issues with painkillers throughout the years from injuries, I've talked about it here a few times. When I'm on my deathbed looking back on my life, if the worst thing I did was screw up with opiates a few times.....I'll be pretty pleased with myself. It sure as hell is a lot better than what a lot of you sick fucks (that's a general statement, I'm not pointing anyone out) do behind closed doors and then try to come out and act like you're some kind of saint by telling everyone else that the things they do are horrible.
Life is all about who a person chooses to associate with and the choices he makes!
"The sport needs guys like these".
Like living through a plane crash of similar. And "most" of these recovered people would impress you if you'd met and you'd never know what they've been through. It may seem like a choice to use heroin or down some booze the first few times and it is. But once the obsession of the mind and allergy kicks in (at least for alcohol), it's no longer a choice.
My .02
What is sad is there are people here that will tell you because they're a certain way YOU should be a certain way. Guess they don't have a search feature to read article after article will tell you addiction is a disease. For the people that can't read they'll miss this point but here goes anyway: There is always an element of choice but the difference is those of us who aren't addicts are predisposed to make better choices.
Today, I have many times told people that I am most grateful to God that I have a choice every day. I can choose not to use. That's a miracle that only those that have been there and done that can possibly appreciate. Choice. Most people take it for granted...I don't for a minute, because for a long time I didn't think I had one.
I hate to see anyone go down the horrible road addiction takes a person down. Addiction always leads to destruction if the addict doesn't come to a turning point. I sincerely hope Nico does...and soon.
agn dude your opinions are wrong, but they are indeed your opinions, so enjoy yourself spewing that nonsense.
At least with booze it's called "the insanity of the first drink".. and it really is a form of insanity. A person could crash his car, loose a job or relationship, or all those things. And a normal person would think, how could you possibly want to use or drink again.
Well, it's because it's a form of insanity. I have battled it myself, but a friend explained it like this. He had gone through some real shit, and a few days later was driving home and thought, a six pack sounds good... and he said he felt like his car drove itself to the liquor store on it's own and he was fucked up again in short order. There was no thought of the shit he had just gone through just days before.. his mind had conveniently "forgot". Sounds crazy, and it is and humiliating for the person who wonders, "how could this happen again?"
Now, add in the physical pain and sickness from opiate withdrawal and you have something that not many can overcome without some real help. That doesn't make what things like Mike Healey or others have done ok, or even understandable. But it is understandable how truly sad and real these problems are for way too many folks.
I had to go to the hospital recently and they prescribed a small amount of Norcos for pain.. swear I had to go to 3 pharmacies before I found one that had any in stock
This sport can chew you up and spit you out rather quickly. Kids becoming pros with high dollar contracts at the young age of 16. 10 year old kids signing contracts as the next big thing. There has got to be huge amounts of pressure on these young men to perform. And when you get hurt, how fast can you be back out on the track? If your hurting, take a couple of these to kill the pain.
There are not many sports, IMO, that has as many repetitive severe injuries as MX/SX. Broken femurs, broken vertebrae, etc, etc. and treated with Dr. prescribed opiates. These are still basically kids having to take these meds.
I've seen my father get addicted to pain meds for his severe back pain. The drug was Talwin which I believe is a mild opiate. For about 9 months he (and we) lived with the demon and luckily we were able to wean him off the meds and because of that when I get any kind of injury my wife doles out my pain meds and always asks if I really need it at that moment.
Pit Row
I'll admit that I am far from an expert on this topic, but I do see a clear tend of those who are experienced explaining there is a lot more at work here than a simple choice, while a few here are just mindlessly bashing and claiming they are above all of this. I guess I was just lucky when I was in the hospital because I didn't feel like the morphine I was given did much to me, but I would never even begin to think that others would be effected the same way who may be succeptible to addiction, plenty of people get hooked on that stuff and I doubt it was a simple choice. I really hope Izzi can get things back on track and that people would be a little more supportive, I wouldn't wish a life of addiction on anybody.
If it was a simple problem, 10% of the population wouldn't be struggling with it.
Most people don't become addicts over night. It's a progression, first it's once or twice. Then on weekends. Then sometimes after work. Then it's before breakfast and 24/7.
Your 6 and your parents get you a PW50. You get to go riding. It's fun, you like it, your parents take you once a month. You get a little older, a little faster, you start racing most weekends. You start doing pretty good, but not good enough to make it to LL. So you start working harder, you train off the bike, take lessons. Pretty soon the majority of your day every day dedicated to getting better, physically, mentally, what ever. Your practice bike blows up, so you decided to start mountain biking for practice.
Drugs slowly take over peoples lives. It has nothing to do with self control, other then maybe never trying it to begin with. When it gets bad, waking up, all that matters is getting through the day with more drugs, you stop being a person, it's just going through the motions to get fked up again. When all your day is focused on is drugs, and you cant get your pain meds, it's not even making a change because you just want to stay fked up. Dirtbike to mtb, you just want to keep riding.
And Izzi is an individual that is not the same as everyone else. He may have addiction problems but there are other things that could be at play with each individual, including mental illnesses of different kinds (not saying that's his deal, just saying) Someone might embarrass himself at a new year's party and never get loaded again. Some might go a few years being addicted to something and be able to quit, and some will use until they are dead.
People are wired different, but the fact is, addicts in most cases have a genetic component that makes them different than most others.
If you can take or leave the pain meds, or booze, or whatever it is, just say a big thank you and don't judge something you'll never understand.
JMO
Why do you suppose there are over 1,000,000 people in AA all over the world? There are 1,800 AA meetings a week in Orange County, CA, this doesn't even count the NA meetings (narcotics anonymous).. why do you think that is?
Because there are millions of people that WANT to stop, but CAN'T at least without help... or they chose to and did the work required and did.. either for a time or maybe even permanently, and some just never get it and die.
Why didn't they just "smarten up" and quit? Because they didn't have enough will power, or make bad choices?
No.
Just like a PED thread there is a lot of ignorance on this subject.... ignorance is bliss I suppose.. enjoy.
That's why I say that there is too much ignorance here, because you really don't know the numbers at all and I have seen it.
All that said, if a guy is committing crimes to get dope, he should be fully prosecuted, not just because he's guilty, but because it's often the best thing to could happen to an addict to bring about a recovery.
Over and out
After using pills, snorting, smoking or whatever method they use them, it stops working. Your system becomes really good at processing the drug.
At that point, all thats left is to inject it so you can try and feel normal. If it was about a high, that would be easy to deal with.
I have not talked to any addict who was not convinced their back/knee/neck,arm/internal pain was not at a 20/10 on the pain scale.
How do you prevent something that isn't controllable? Oh yeah just tell the person to make better choices that's right.
To balance things out here I know addicts work the system, work their friends and basically lie to themselves so don't anyone get the idea that if I think your an addict you automaticlly get a free pass to be an A hole. I am just more understanding and less judgmental than some of the addiction experts here.
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