Next 450 rookie to get a win

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When is the next time we will see a 450 rookie get a win (in their rookie season)? Indoor main or outdoor O/A

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-MAVERICK- 8/28/2018 6:07pm
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AC won't be winning anything for another year or two since he's still on the 250.
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FuzzyLogic 8/28/2018 6:08pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
AC won't be winning anything for another year or two since he's still on the 250.
I realize that, but just thought he may be a viable pick.

Kenny, ET, and MM are going to be a lot to handle for any rookie coming into the class for a few years to come, not to mention Webb, Bagget, and Anderson.
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kb228 8/28/2018 6:43pm
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Sorry but i cant see any rookies beating eli roczen or marvin right now.
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jeffro503 8/28/2018 6:50pm
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I'd have to Zach as well......along with AP. I think both of them have the skill , fitness , strength and determination to do it.
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jeffro503 8/28/2018 6:51pm
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Oh! And not quite a rookie really , but kind of. I see Justin Hill getting a 450 win in SX this next year. Indoors that guy is incredible.
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crusty_xx 8/28/2018 6:54pm
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KirkChandler wrote:
Justin Hill. Supercross.
Forgot about him.
Yeah that might be the only one to get one in Supercross.
Outdoors: AP
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FuzzyLogic 8/28/2018 7:28pm
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If it wasn't clear, I mean the next person do it in their rookie year, not which 450 rookie this upcoming year will get a win at some point in their career.

Hill isn't a bad guess, but i still see him having a hard time covering each of those top 3 in the same night.
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Jeff alessi 8/28/2018 7:31pm
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Plessinger then joe17 are probably going to be your next naturals on a 450. Those guys don’t over ride the bikes that usually lead to trouble that I think we may see with ozzy. I also think u will see all three of these guys trying to get a win quick, going for it to seed them self as a top guy. They are the next big wave to phase out those in that limbo position between winners and potential winners. I would say Tomac is the only one who has clear speed advantage over them, everyone else will be racing those guys hard.
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d394 8/28/2018 7:42pm
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Justin cooper when he hits the 450 class
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F150Motocrosser 8/28/2018 8:00pm
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Remember, there will be additional Triple Crown format races next season... not sure how/if that skews the odds, but something to keep in mind
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TDeath21 8/28/2018 8:07pm
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I voted Osborne but it wouldn't surprise me if none of the 450 rookies this upcoming season got a win. It's hard to do and in my opinion none of them will be with the Roczen/Tomac/Anderson SX battle upcoming or the Roczen/Tomac MX battle I think we will finally get to see. When one of those three in SX falters, I think Musquin and Barcia will be there to snag the win and in MX if one of those two falters, Anderson, Musquin, Barcia, or Baggett will be there to snag the win. I don't see any of the three high profile rookies coming in breaking into that group and I don't see a race where each of them have a bad enough race to allow someone from the next tier win a race.
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blockhead17 8/28/2018 8:11pm
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Hill 100% go back and watch him in his SX race last year, blow by Marv to win his heat and had a legitimate shot in the main before throwing it away.
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deanwhite51 8/28/2018 10:38pm
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I don't think there is any rookie at this current time that has that speed...

And we haven't seen a young guy come through and set the pace in years. Now every one trophy hunts and stays in the 250 class for more years then they should.


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Kelz87 8/28/2018 11:08pm
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I’m not gonna know who to pull for if Zacho and AP are competetive in sx next year. I was glad they raced in different divisions last season!
That being said, I’m all aboard the Tomac train with Roczen a close second. I’d like to see Hill shake things up here and there too
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RG1 8/29/2018 12:49am
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Plessinger for me. I've just always thought he would be a great 450 rider, and it wouldn't surprise me to see him get a win. Also, weird that you put AC on the list but not Savatgy who is actually moving to a 450 next season
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redrider400 8/29/2018 1:01am
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AP has a frame that will allow him to adapt more quickly than Zac. But I wouldn't bet any money on it.
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FuzzyLogic 8/29/2018 4:19am
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Jmart might have a shot at it when he comes on full time. That said I still think it is going to be a TALL task for any rookie in the next 5 years to come in and take one away from the current set of riders
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Dougy1 8/29/2018 4:32am
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KirkChandler wrote:
Justin Hill. Supercross.
Yep absolutely with ya there. Crew just look at a outdoor mudder and immediately fade him...but he is
amazing at sx
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motomike137 8/29/2018 4:37am
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Zach is obviously the safest pick but I have a gut feeling that Plessinger is going to be a beast on a 450.
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nealb129 8/29/2018 5:28am
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I don’t see any rookie winning against the current crop for the next 2-3yrs.

Hill might sneak a SX win this year but I think he has to do It early in case one of the big guns takes a couple of races to get going. Along with not getting beat down racing every weekend.
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Motofinne 8/29/2018 5:34am
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I can see Plessinger getting a win if a race turns out to be a mudder. But i can't see any of them winning anything as long as the big 4 (Tomac, Anderson, Roczen, Musquin) are healthy and the races are on "dry" tracks.

AC could actually be the first to win a 450 race out of him, Osborne and Plessinger even though he will still race one year in the 250 class.
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bh84 8/29/2018 5:38am
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Motofinne wrote:
I can see Plessinger getting a win if a race turns out to be a mudder. But i can't see any of them winning anything as...
I can see Plessinger getting a win if a race turns out to be a mudder. But i can't see any of them winning anything as long as the big 4 (Tomac, Anderson, Roczen, Musquin) are healthy and the races are on "dry" tracks.

AC could actually be the first to win a 450 race out of him, Osborne and Plessinger even though he will still race one year in the 250 class.
Beat me by 2 minutes. Zacho may take a while to get to the top, but Pless just needs one sloppy race to be a real threat.
MotoTribology 8/29/2018 7:00am
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I see both Plessinger and Osborne getting wins on the 450's, but I am doubtful they'll come in their rookie years with the current 450 crop and the timing of when they'll advance.

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