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Suzuki will continue to supply with bikes, parts etc they just will not financially support the team. So The team must find a sponsor for funding by a certain date (supposedly before the new year) Or else they're pretty much screwed.
If this is true, I still believe it can be recovered. It will be sad to loose Suzuki altogether. It's a vicious circle with them.
I do believe a production class in mxgp would be good. Keep MXGP. Ditch mx2, keep the rules tight, allow a pipe and some suspension mods. We don't need fast bikes to have good racing. Teams could be run on a low budget, the manufactures would have to continually have to develop their bikes in order to stay competitive. We probably would still see ktm dominance but I'm sure it would solve many issues!
Like with RCH, no title sponsor and the OEM not wanting to stump up!
Easy to blame Luongo though!
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Suzuki have not pulled out, what they have said is that will not solely fund the team, which is not the same thing , Stefan Everts is the team owner , and Suzuki will supply him with bikes and parts , what Everts needs to do is find a Title sponsor to underwrite and pay for it.
From what i have been told, Bas Vaesen and Stribos were both bringing money to the team, Vaessen has decided to leave, and they did not want to retain Stribos, so they lost 2 revenue streams right there , maybe with nothing to replace it and Suzuki said enough..
As i have said before, Everts seems to have issues, he was outed by KTM, and had to buy his way in at Suzuki, a despite having riders who are capable of podiums, has not got anyone on board as a title sponsor .. and that is worrying.
There is still time for Suzuki to place those bikes elsewhere, which may be an option.
their road racing division looks too Yamahish, I have no idea where they stand for to be honest...
I think now with two privately owned semi factory teams It will feel even more gaotic than it already is
This is dirt and street, so think what a small number of dirt bikes they sell here. But looks like they gained a lot in 2017 compared with 2016:
Suzuki sales numbers:
First number: FY2016 Result
Second number: FY2017 Disclosed Value
Third number: FY2019 Target
Automobile
Japan 639,000 645,000 700,000
Europe 245,000 267,000 280,000
Asia 1,870,000 1,983,000 2,200,000
Others 164,000 176,000 220,000
Total 2,918,000 3,071,000 3,400,000
Motorcycle
Japan 62,000 67,000 70,000
Europe 45,000 53,000 70,000
North America 32,000 40,000 60,000
Asia 1,039,000 1,073,000 1,500,000
Others 190,000 186,000 300,000
Total 1,367,000 1,419,000 2,000,000
it's a little vague... sometimes only a license is sold to a 3rd party
As for how many "bikes" are sold by Suzuki in various markets...
In the USA it's GSXRs, 'Busas, Cruisers and plenty atvs & bikes that are bigger, more expensive and waaaay more profitable (per unit) than all those SCOOTERS they sell in Jaoan and Asia. Hence, the point I was making as to "why" they're spending money on racing here.
We have 19 models in the $10-15+K range here.
Then there's plenty more in the $8-9K range including the RMZ.
Not to mention that they're getting $6-7K for a coupl'a dual sports that're nothing but PURE PROFIT...for well over a decade.
In those other markets, the vast majority of their sells appear to be on VERY SMALL displacement bikes and scooters that're in a much lower range of revenue and profit (assumed). In Japan they look to be holding their own...but...how're the "other guys doing"?
Twas over 50 years ago...damn!
Granted , there are no development dollars going into those bikes, but they still have to be made, built and shipped, and the dealer in price wont be any less.
The profit is scooters is huge, because they are very low tech, and can be easily produced locally,which i believe they are in Asian markets, and they sell shit loads . In Europe, the Superbike market, is on its arse, its all low tech, low cost, middleweight bikes that are selling, along with big adventure stuff and 'retro ' stuff. Triumph are selling Bobbers like they are going out of fashion.
Is this true or was this just a rumour?
smallest are the 125 models for those who just got licensed for a road bike , special entry class
Like supersport models , 125 , 750,1000 and 1300 hayabusa .Street models pretty much same line up with a 125 entry and after that 600, 700 and 1000 models
MX bikes only RMZ 250 and 450
18 bikes in 10K and up
average 5K for a 125 model , all other models between 7 and 10 K
best selling motorbike in 2016 world wide is a Honda 125 scooter btw
I know a few high volume sellers in Europe who get their bikes via America by Parallel Imports / Gray Market
All this talk about Suzuki hurting for money is laughable. The Marine division for example...Suzuki four stroke outboards are one of, if not the best and most reliable on the market. I live on an island and there's a shit tonne of Zook powered boats around here. It's the brand of choice for almost all the fishing guides here.Hell, I bought one last year....and guess what, it's been bulletproof. The one thing Suzuki does need to work on....it's their marketing division. It sucks, their product does not.
Pit Row
Pichon will start his own thing with the precious help of his father...
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