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9/23/2019 8:39 AM

What are YOUR thoughts? Are these bikes as 6th place like all the shootouts say?


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9/23/2019 8:55 AM

ermm
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9/23/2019 8:56 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2019 8:59 AM

Making another Suzuki thread wont make the bike magically finish above 6th place.

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9/23/2019 9:03 AM

Who cares, ride what you like.

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

9/23/2019 9:05 AM

i really wish the shootouts would take into considerating that not everyone is the same build and that your height/size prob has a bigger effect on you gelling with a bike than alot of of other factors

when people ask me what kind of bike they should get if theyre new to the sport i always usually will say get a yamaha because theyre the most reliable but i would never own one because they feel big/clunky too me (atleast the older ones did..not sure about the newer ones) because im not tall.

ive been a honda/suzuki guy because they feel more comfortable to me sinc im not tall.

unles you're a very fast expert rider or national level pro the rmz450 wont hold you back

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9/23/2019 9:07 AM

laughing laughing laughing laughing
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Not much to say to Vitards.

9/23/2019 9:07 AM

vtec wrote:

i really wish the shootouts would take into considerating that not everyone is the same build and that your height/size prob has a bigger effect on you gelling with a bike than alot of of other factors

when people ask me what kind of bike they should get if theyre new to the sport i always usually will say get a yamaha because theyre the most reliable but i would never own one because they feel big/clunky too me (atleast the older ones did..not sure about the newer ones) because im not tall.

ive been a honda/suzuki guy because they feel more comfortable to me sinc im not tall.

unles you're a very fast expert rider or national level pro the rmz450 wont hold you back

most the shootouts have a variety of different riders including height and weight.

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9/23/2019 9:29 AM

Riverrat139 wrote:

What are YOUR thoughts? Are these bikes as 6th place like all the shootouts say?


Unless you plan on racing it, what does it matter.....???? Do you even RIDE...? A bike and it's setup is only half if the equation, you can be a shitty rider and have a great bike/setup, but that still won't change your poor riding ability. Vise versa....

Get a bike and ride it, ride/race what you can afford. Make your own determination based off your own findings/test ride, not someone else's.
Look around for test ride days at your local tracks, i.e. Honda test ride day, Yamaha test ride day, etc etc. Take one of them for a spin around the track.

They used to have these at Milestone, Pala, etc etc. Just go with your gear, sign their waivers, ride 2 laps and make your judgment from their.

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9/23/2019 9:29 AM

I love mine, and pretty confident I would do very well in a vital mx member race lol as far as speed in concerned, I know a lot of other fast guys riding them too they love them, with a little work they are super solid and extremely reliable unit.

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9/23/2019 9:43 AM

I have one, it’s not a bad bike by any means. I have not ridden the others so I can’t say for sure that they are worlds better. I will say for me personally the bike is to rigid, I prefer a more loose feeling bike and this definitely isn’t it. It’s not a bad thing, it’s just not my preference. I got the bike for a really good deal so I thought I would give it a try.

The power delivery is nice but it does sound off a little early, the suspension isn’t bad once it’s reworked, the weight isn’t that noticeable when riding (very noticeable when putting it on the stand). The handling isn’t bad, I think my old KX handled better but that was also a loose chassis vs the rigid so it’s apples to oranges. If you’re on the fence about one I really suggest riding one first.

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9/23/2019 9:54 AM

I sold a 350sxf with gold valves to get my RMZ450. I'm getting the same results, if not better, with the stock zook. Can't tell its heavier and damn glad to have the kickstart 99% of the time - especially if the temps are cool outside.

Easy to get caught up in the shootouts, but it's the most affordable bike and does everything I'll ever need in the 30+ and 40+ classes. I'd love a new Honda, but at $11,995 for the 2020 450, I'll get another leftover RMZ for $7k next spring.

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9/23/2019 9:58 AM

Hilarious seeing all these people hate on Suzuki’s. I rode one...was just as fast on it as I was on my Honda. Also blew by every KTM squid like they weren’t even moving. No wonder they’d pull off after 2 laps and start messing with suspension clickers tongue laughing laughing

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9/23/2019 9:59 AM

Geezuz....off season is a nut ache.

Nevertheless, ask JS7 about the Suzooki...he won plenty on one of those.

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9/23/2019 10:02 AM

It doesn't matter what color bike you choose...they're all pretty darn good.

If you're ok with a kickstart instead of the button, I say put your money on yellow.

Don't let a shootout dictate what you buy.

I know people who are high level riders that prefer the yellow bike over the apparent winner of everyone's shootout (Yamaha), one of which was actually a test rider for one of the mags. haha

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9/23/2019 10:03 AM

I’m looking to get a bike again and I got my mind set on the new Suzuki’s I’ll take a 17 18 or 19 lol whatever I can get a good deal on. I’ve seen the 18s out here for as low as 5,800 before all the other crap they tack on but for a new bikes that’s a hell of a deal

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9/23/2019 10:36 AM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2019 10:38 AM

I was having a great season on mine til I broke my leg last month. FC suspension, Rekluse auto clutch, FMF ti system, dyno tune and she's a ripper. Not down on power at all in real world racing conditions. Got many holeshots and finished 3rd in the NESC 50 + championship this spring with my "heavy old Kickstart" Zook.

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9/23/2019 10:43 AM

motomike894 wrote:

I love mine, and pretty confident I would do very well in a vital mx member race lol as far as speed in concerned, I know a lot of other fast guys riding them too they love them, with a little work they are super solid and extremely reliable unit.

MotoMike!!! We're teammates right now. I usually ride a 2019 Kaw 450 but had an electrical issue so i've been riding my buddies 2019 Suzuki 450 and after the shootouts I had extremely low expectations. However the bike has been ultra impressive. It hits corners like no other. I weigh 148 pounds and I have the suspension almost as soft as it can go because it's stock and definitely stiff. Even with no suspension,I feel extremely comfortable on the bike and the confidence when leaning into turns, whether there is a rut or not, is awesome. I'm clocking similar lap times on the Suzuki as my Kaw, guaranteed. The power is not very good compared to the Kawi. However if you throw a pipe and get it remapped it's 4-5 horsepower and better bottom end pull. I'm a fairly decent A rider, for speed reference. RMArmy is reallll. The bike is sikk and people who are hating on it have no idea what there talking about IMO.

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9/23/2019 11:26 AM

ive ridden 2 18-19 rmz450s. Not for me. And thats coming from a suzuki guy who still has his 14 rmz450.

shootouts arent the be all end all but i also rode the 19 yz450f. It is literally 15x better in every measureable way comared to the rmz.

front feels loose than out of no where wants to knife, its not a predicatable bike (in my experience) i think with some suspension work and maybe a different rear shock it has potential, but all the other oems have stepped it up huge the last few years.

And suzuki has a "new bike" that is a step down from the 08-17 rmz450.

i want to like yellow i really do but they are making it very very hard

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9/23/2019 11:40 AM

vtec wrote:

i really wish the shootouts would take into considerating that not everyone is the same build and that your height/size prob has a bigger effect on you gelling with a bike than alot of of other factors

when people ask me what kind of bike they should get if theyre new to the sport i always usually will say get a yamaha because theyre the most reliable but i would never own one because they feel big/clunky too me (atleast the older ones did..not sure about the newer ones) because im not tall.

ive been a honda/suzuki guy because they feel more comfortable to me sinc im not tall.

unles you're a very fast expert rider or national level pro the rmz450 wont hold you back

Pretty much every shootout I've seen has testers of a wide range of sizes and lists their input with regard to ergos.

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9/23/2019 12:03 PM

I like the implied notion that all you need is a picture of a good looking bike and that's how the tests should be sorted out.

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9/23/2019 12:17 PM

MotoMan12345 wrote:

Hilarious seeing all these people hate on Suzuki’s. I rode one...was just as fast on it as I was on my Honda. Also blew by every KTM squid like they weren’t even moving. No wonder they’d pull off after 2 laps and start messing with suspension clickers tongue laughing laughing

Hilarious seeing another "people hate on Suzuki's" comment

Am I faster on a Suzuki than my Honda? No, that is why I dont race one, but not because I hate them

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9/23/2019 12:20 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2019 12:28 PM

10 yrs on a Kawi and decided to buy a RMZ last Sept. I enjoy the bike, it handles better, I get more holeshots, I finish more in the top 3 and it pays better....I get $125 from Suzuki for this past weekend when Kawi would have only paid $50.
I have put less money into the RMZ than the KXF over the past year and that is including repairs like clutches, chain and sprockets.

Suzuki is slated to have hydraulic clutch and electric start for 2021 RMZ450, so time will tell if they stick to their schedule on this.

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9/23/2019 12:25 PM

Please make it stop. . .pinch

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9/23/2019 12:44 PM

90% rider, 10% bike. I prefer the bike that turns the best so I can run a shorter track.

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9/23/2019 1:01 PM

that is a damn good looking bike i must say.

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9/23/2019 1:05 PM

JM485 wrote:

Please make it stop. . .pinch

Did I tell you I rode at MMX Sand on my RMZ this weekend!!! laughing (...bunch of Off-Road dudes were hauling ass getting ready for event next weekend)

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9/23/2019 1:09 PM

JM485 wrote:

Please make it stop. . .pinch

Ted722 wrote:

Did I tell you I rode at MMX Sand on my RMZ this weekend!!! laughing (...bunch of Off-Road dudes were hauling ass getting ready for event next weekend)

We. Rented that MMX sand track for the day a little over a year ago and its real fun… ..especially fun on a 2 stroke

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9/23/2019 1:23 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/23/2019 4:53 PM

I️ can’t wait for Joey Savatgy to sign with JGR because he’ll tell us the truth about Suzukis and settle this debate once and for all 😬. Until then, pick a color and go have fun.

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9/23/2019 2:21 PM

If you are not an AorB class rider they will all suit you for how well you can ride.

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9/23/2019 2:40 PM

Your're misunderstanding the results. The higher the number, the better the bike. 6th makes it the best bike.

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