New Helmet Time—Shoei VFX-EVO or Alpinestars SM10 Bell Moto 9

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11/17/2018 6:51 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

What about the Bell Moto 9 with MIPS? How do they fit? Do the Carbon Flex fit any differently? Im gonna be running Spy Goggles ...more

Love my new Moto9. It’s the most comfortable helmet I’ve ever worn. I wear 100% goggles, and if you have the nose piece on your goggles, you have two choices: take the nose piece off the goggles, or take the extension nose rubber piece off the helmet. I take it off the helmet itself, about a 1” or so rubber snap in piece. This also makes it have a bit more open feel. Magnetic pads are also really nice.

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11/18/2018 8:20 AM

I have a new EVO. Don't buy one unless you can afford to replace the whole helmet every time you crash.

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11/18/2018 9:12 AM

I have a Moto 9 and two TLD SE4 Carbons. Much prefer the SE4s. Ventilation is great and they are super light weight. I've heard some people complain about fit and MIPS comfort, but I never noticed anything abnormal.

I do want to try a SM10 though. I got to hold one that a sales rep had and was really impressed with the design and quality.

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11/27/2018 9:08 AM

DTR830 wrote:

I’ll let you know the sizing when I receive mine

How was the fit?

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11/27/2018 10:48 AM

brocsdad wrote:

I never really really considered the room between your mouth and the the chin bar until my son crashed. He clipped a high ...more

Sorry to hijack the thread for a little while but this post got me thinking, how good is the LS2 really?
What about the weight? They claim 1300+-50g, which is on the heavy side.
I am torn between Fly F2, LS2 or another (I wore it this season) Just1 J12. J12 was incredibly light, comfy and very well ventilated. It needs replacing though as I used it to the fullest...

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11/27/2018 12:19 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch ...more

brocsdad wrote:

I never really really considered the room between your mouth and the the chin bar until my son crashed. He clipped a high ...more

Turbojez wrote:

Sorry to hijack the thread for a little while but this post got me thinking, how good is the LS2 really?
What about the ...more

The LS2 is a great helmet. NO BS!

I help a friend with his training program and we were sponsored by Just 1 and they do make a great helmet. I don't believe in jumping from sponsor to sponsor but they had issues getting new helmets and parts to the U.S. At that point I started looking for a new helmet sponsor and we received an LS2 to try out.

The helmet weight is right there with the JUST 1 if not lighter depending on the shell size. The ventilation is superior and the protection has been proven.

They build the helmets at their production facility so there's no middle man and it keeps costs down. So again do not let the lower price scare you.

Good Luck!

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11/27/2018 1:40 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

According to the Alpinestars size chart I am the very top of Large. Should I go with an XL? Don’t want it to be too tight that ...more

DTR830 wrote:

I’ll let you know the sizing when I receive mine

redrider_714 wrote:

How was the fit?

Large fits awesome. Im happy with it for far. Need to ride now

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11/27/2018 3:44 PM

These kinds of posts always bug me - you'll just get a million suggestions of whatever helmet the other members use and most will ignore your direct question.

You asked about the Bell Moto 9. i have it and this is THE first Bell helmet that fits me really well. As long as weight isn't a major concern of yours (I think my Medium is 1500 grams - so it is on the heavier side, but I'm fine with it), its a great option in terms of safety tech & fit (I have the Carbon Flex).

The Bell Moto 9 with MIPS supposedly do not fit differently although I have not directly compared both.

Personally, try-like-hell to go try them on and pick what YOU want. I recently bought the TLD SE4 Composite (before ending up with the Bell) and *hated* the fit of the SE4 (and I was coming off of a TLD Air which I loved).

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11/27/2018 4:21 PM

KGAspeed wrote:

These kinds of posts always bug me - you'll just get a million suggestions of whatever helmet the other members use and most ...more

Couldn't agree more with this, try like hell to trial fit the helmets you are interested in. For me that's nearly impossible as the nearest shop is 45 + minutes away and has shit stock. So for me, I go through the hassle of ordering from RM or BTO and just simply return the item if it doesn't fit right or I don't like it.

With regard to helmets, I had a Bell Flex for a couple of seasons. Loved it, but also really wanted to try a 6D. So ordered a new ATR-2. Bell and 6D sizes are not in the ballpark so had to return and exchange for the proper size. The 6D took awhile to break in and for me is not nearly as comfortable as the Bell. The Bell feels like the materials are just a little plusher and small details like the magnetic cheek pads and strap are icing on the cake.

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11/27/2018 5:26 PM

Just picked up Moto 9 flex (349, a steal) very comfortable, fwiw

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11/27/2018 6:38 PM

Of all the new helmets I’ve gotten in recent years, this one is my fav! I LOVE the new 6D ATR-2’s. Photo
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“Let the Good Times Roll”

11/27/2018 7:39 PM

stonerb wrote:

Shoei has a free inspection program. They can check it out for you, to see if it’s still safe to use.

This guy right here.

If you crash a shoei, email them or a rep and they will give you an address. You pay the shipping and they X Ray it to find eps degradation and shell cracks. I’ve seen shoes get reapproved from the factory after some bad hits.

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11/28/2018 3:23 PM

I'm in the market for a new Helmet also, but not trying to hijack the O.P's original models, I have worn a Arai VX Pro (2005 model!) for along time now and I must admit I do love the quality of the helmet, it's worn very well and still looks great!, but time has come and no one seems to wear the Arai now, it's the MXV now as I understand... Is it because they have not really made a "new" version?, the weight?, or some other factor that not many people wear them now?.

Would be interested in some views from people with a new Arai please, I did try on Kurt Nichols 6D and man that thing was light compared with my old VX!.

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11/28/2018 4:10 PM

In recent years, Ive owned Shoei (non-EVO), Bell Moto 9 and 6D helmets. All were excellent, but the Shoei works best for me. My head is more oval than round and the Shoei just seems to fit me better overall. One note; I wear size L in the Shoei and XL in the others. While I really like the new technology that companies are incorporating in their equipment, one thing that did turn me off with the 6D (my personal issue), is that the helmet is larger that the others.

As for the chin bar on the Shoei helmet, it is a little longer I feel than some of the others, which will give you more room.


Helmet prices (gear prices in general) are tough to take, but one thing I always try and consider is that the helmet may be the most important part of our protection. While being able the buy and replace an item that costs $700.00 0r more is a major consideration, I want to be as well protected as possible. If these top shelf helmets are definitely more protective, I am going to try and bite the bullet and spend the money. Many will spend $700.00 or more to make their bike faster, but then question the price of helmets. The faster one is, the better protected they need to be.

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11/28/2018 4:46 PM

joeellis wrote:

In recent years, Ive owned Shoei (non-EVO), Bell Moto 9 and 6D helmets. All were excellent, but the Shoei works best for me. ...more

I was like you. Shoei all the way until I tried the new 6D ATR-2. Best helmet I’ve ever owned. 2nd would be my Shoei EVO. Photo
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11/28/2018 5:11 PM

DTR830 wrote:

Large fits awesome. Im happy with it for far. Need to ride now

How close is the chin bar to your face?

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11/29/2018 2:46 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

How was the fit?

DTR830 wrote:

Large fits awesome. Im happy with it for far. Need to ride now

redrider_714 wrote:

How close is the chin bar to your face?

I feel its about average of all helmets. Nothing about the chin bar stood out to me as a concern. 570-606-7687 ill send you as many pics you want of a shoei evo next to the supertech

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11/29/2018 4:05 PM

DTR830 wrote:

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we ...more

RoflCopter726 wrote:

I have a VFX-W now, but will probably need a new helmet in the next year. What is so different with the EVO liner now?

DTR830 wrote:

The front clips break & then it falls out of the front every time you take the helmet off.

spoke to two others yesterday ...more

I can vouch for this angry

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11/29/2018 8:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/29/2018 8:56 PM

Moto 9 Flex is where it’s at. I love the technology behind the sm10 and Shoei, but the liner is junk in the Shoei, and the sm10 just doesn’t quite fit me right. All 3 are great options but the Flex has the best fit for me.

I too am victim of the Shoei liner obviously.

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12/1/2018 9:50 AM

DTR830 wrote:

Large fits awesome. Im happy with it for far. Need to ride now

DTR830, have you ridden in your Supertech M10 yet? How noticeable is the adjustability of the A-Head feature?

I was dead set on a new Shoei EVO, my current VFX-W is long in the tooth. Tried on the EVO and it fit perfect and much more comfortable than the Bell and 6D for my head shape.

But the feedback on the new liner in the EVO has me second guessing. Might need to go try on a M10...

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12/1/2018 5:19 PM

Does the liner in the EVO break upon removal? Or does it fail overtime from use? Kinda disheartening to here of issues with Shoei as I absolutely loved my VFX-W but it is time for an upgrade.

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12/1/2018 8:42 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

Does the liner in the EVO break upon removal? Or does it fail overtime from use? Kinda disheartening to here of issues with ...more

I've owned 9 shoei vfx w since 2010 I am sad to leave as well, no I haven't ridden in it yet

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12/1/2018 8:45 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/2/2018 11:57 AM

redrider_714 wrote:

How was the fit?

DTR830 wrote:

Large fits awesome. Im happy with it for far. Need to ride now

MelonFan123 wrote:

DTR830, have you ridden in your Supertech M10 yet? How noticeable is the adjustability of the A-Head feature?

I was dead set ...more

I don't feel the need to move the liner.

from what I told the OP
headliner install is better on sm10
cheekpads evo

comfort evo

weight sm10

overall a dead match Imo

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12/2/2018 7:48 AM

I’ve ridden in mine a fair amount so far. I’ve washed the liner twice and it holds up fine. The air flow is crazy, just standing in the pits you can feel the breeze through the shell.

As for the adjustability, most people fit the helmet fine in the standard all the way up position. I’ve had at least 50
people try them on and maybe 5 needed any adjustments at all.

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12/2/2018 11:11 AM

I'm still waiting to get my hands on the SM8. The only difference will be the shell material and weight but the price will be really good, especially since i will be able to get a good deal on the Astars helmets.

If the SM8 is under 1350g i might get that one. Otherwise i'll get the SM10 for 2019.

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12/2/2018 1:04 PM

The M8 is still a carbon shell but not 100%. I’ve heard it’s roughly 100 grams heavier and ~$100 less. Not sure when they are launching just yet.

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12/2/2018 11:13 PM
Edited Date/Time: 12/2/2018 11:18 PM

Spooner wrote:

The M8 is still a carbon shell but not 100%. I’ve heard it’s roughly 100 grams heavier and ~$100 less. Not sure when they are ...more

Great news, i'm pretty certain that i will be in Alpinestars from head to toe then!

The ECE version of the SM10 weighs 1260g (size M).

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- Yamaha YZ450F 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel