New Helmet Time—Shoei VFX-EVO or Alpinestars SM10 Bell Moto 9

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11/15/2018 2:38 PM

Looking at getting a new helmet for next year. Currently I’m looking at either a Shoei VFX-EVO or an Alpinestars SM10. Anybody have any experience with either of these? Currently I’m wearing a Shoei VFX-W size L, how close size wise are these helmets? Thanks

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11/15/2018 2:42 PM

I wore a medium VFX-W and feel very comfy in my new medium VFX-Evo.

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11/15/2018 2:46 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

I wore a medium VFX-W and feel very comfy in my new medium VFX-Evo.

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch the chin bar. Really want something with a bit of room between.

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11/15/2018 2:49 PM

quadzrulebro wrote:

I wore a medium VFX-W and feel very comfy in my new medium VFX-Evo.

redrider_714 wrote:

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch the chin bar. Really want something with a bit of room between.

The Evo is pretty similar to the VFX-W

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11/15/2018 2:53 PM

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we’ll see how it compares

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11/15/2018 2:59 PM

DTR830 wrote:

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we’ll see how it compares


I’m a medium VFX w & evo
Going off the size chart I bought a large alpinestar
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11/15/2018 7:04 PM

I’ve been running the Alpinestars helmet for a while now and love it. It’s super light and the ventilation is amazing. The fit is great plus it’s adjustable so you can fine tune it. Different size cheek pads will be available soon too if you need them. You can run hydration in it if you want too which works awesome.


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11/15/2018 7:06 PM

I've been a Moto-9 guy, but I'm waiting for Black Friday to try and snag a new SE4 WITHOUT the MIPS.

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11/15/2018 7:08 PM

Are you dead set on those two helmets. The new atr2 and se4 are worth serious consideration imo

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11/15/2018 8:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/15/2018 8:22 PM

DTR830 wrote:

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we’ll see how it compares

I have a VFX-W now, but will probably need a new helmet in the next year. What is so different with the EVO liner now?

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11/15/2018 8:24 PM

DTR830 wrote:

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we’ll see how it compares

RoflCopter726 wrote:

I have a VFX-W now, but will probably need a new helmet in the next year. What is so different with the EVO liner now?

The front clips break & then it falls out of the front every time you take the helmet off.

spoke to two others yesterday that experienced the same thing.

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11/15/2018 9:15 PM

6d.

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11/15/2018 11:33 PM

mtl wrote:

6d.

is that 3d x2 ?

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11/16/2018 3:02 AM

while we are talking helmets anyone know the difference in the new TLD se4 polylycrite shell and their composite version?

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11/16/2018 3:53 AM

Aussie_power_sports wrote:

while we are talking helmets anyone know the difference in the new TLD se4 polylycrite shell and their composite version?

Weight.

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11/16/2018 4:49 AM

I got a sm10 a month or so ago. Local dealer had them for 400. Most I’ve ever spent on a helmet but so far absolutely love it.

I was using a fox v1 and it’s a cheap pos so was in the market and it just worked out.

Comes with a spare visor and decent bag to keep it in

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11/16/2018 5:25 AM

1983YZ125 wrote:

I got a sm10 a month or so ago. Local dealer had them for 400. Most I’ve ever spent on a helmet but so far absolutely love it.

I was using a fox v1 and it’s a cheap pos so was in the market and it just worked out.

Comes with a spare visor and decent bag to keep it in

How is the fit on the chin bar? Maybe it’s just me but I don’t like it too be so close I can touch it with my lips.

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11/16/2018 5:55 AM

1983YZ125 wrote:

I got a sm10 a month or so ago. Local dealer had them for 400. Most I’ve ever spent on a helmet but so far absolutely love it.

I was using a fox v1 and it’s a cheap pos so was in the market and it just worked out.

Comes with a spare visor and decent bag to keep it in

redrider_714 wrote:

How is the fit on the chin bar? Maybe it’s just me but I don’t like it too be so close I can touch it with my lips.

It’s not close to your face like some helmets tend to be.

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11/16/2018 6:00 AM

The evo is good. I tested it on hard pack with my head pretty hard. Didn't get knocked out. I didn't find any cracks in it either but the shell is pretty horrid looking now and I don't know if I should even wear it

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11/16/2018 6:08 AM

WheelieNelson wrote:

The evo is good. I tested it on hard pack with my head pretty hard. Didn't get knocked out. I didn't find any cracks in it either but the shell is pretty horrid looking now and I don't know if I should even wear it

Dont! Your head is worth way more than to take a chance like that.

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11/16/2018 6:39 AM

Shoei has a free inspection program. They can check it out for you, to see if it’s still safe to use.

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11/16/2018 8:27 AM

How’s the new FLY helmets? I get 2 FLY for the price of 1 Shoei so take that in to consideration.
But i also heard a rumor that the swedish Fly importer might have fucked up somehow and now no swedish dealer have no way to get the stuff in to the country, paging JT$?

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11/16/2018 8:31 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/16/2018 8:32 AM

quadzrulebro wrote:

I wore a medium VFX-W and feel very comfy in my new medium VFX-Evo.

redrider_714 wrote:

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch the chin bar. Really want something with a bit of room between.

I never really really considered the room between your mouth and the the chin bar until my son crashed. He clipped a high speed double at WW in FL and the bike landed on him. Somehow the crossbar went between the his chin and the helmet resulting in a broken jaw and 4 teeth being knocked out. They saved 3 but he will need a bone graft and an implant for the missing tooth.

He was wearing a JUST1 Helmet and the helmet did it's job as far as protecting his head but the mouth is a different story. I'm sure he would have suffered injuries no matter what helmet he was wearing but there is a large gap in the chin area.

I will be out of pocket around $15k when all is said and done and we took the year off and sold the bike. Hopefully we can return sometime next year. When that time comes we will be wearing the new LS2 Subverter Helmet. They offer excellent protection. lightweight and venting second to none. Don't let the price point scare you because they manufacture several of the high end helmets on the market. They can sale the subverter cheaper because they own the factory and there's no middle man.

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11/16/2018 9:47 AM

quadzrulebro wrote:

I wore a medium VFX-W and feel very comfy in my new medium VFX-Evo.

redrider_714 wrote:

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch the chin bar. Really want something with a bit of room between.

brocsdad wrote:

I never really really considered the room between your mouth and the the chin bar until my son crashed. He clipped a high speed double at WW in FL and the bike landed on him. Somehow the crossbar went between the his chin and the helmet resulting in a broken jaw and 4 teeth being knocked out. They saved 3 but he will need a bone graft and an implant for the missing tooth.

He was wearing a JUST1 Helmet and the helmet did it's job as far as protecting his head but the mouth is a different story. I'm sure he would have suffered injuries no matter what helmet he was wearing but there is a large gap in the chin area.

I will be out of pocket around $15k when all is said and done and we took the year off and sold the bike. Hopefully we can return sometime next year. When that time comes we will be wearing the new LS2 Subverter Helmet. They offer excellent protection. lightweight and venting second to none. Don't let the price point scare you because they manufacture several of the high end helmets on the market. They can sale the subverter cheaper because they own the factory and there's no middle man.

My brother just bought the LS2...I bought a Suomy...after trying on his LS2, I wish I'd of purchased that one. It looks great...is crazy light...super comfortable...and is way ventilated.

The mouth guard is very close to the face though...it would take some getting used to for me, I think.

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11/16/2018 9:53 AM

SeaClassExpert wrote:

I've been a Moto-9 guy, but I'm waiting for Black Friday to try and snag a new SE4 WITHOUT the MIPS.

Without the MIPS?

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11/16/2018 12:04 PM

redrider_714 wrote:

How much room is there between the chin bar and your mouth? I tried on another brand and if I stuck my lips out I could touch the chin bar. Really want something with a bit of room between.

brocsdad wrote:

I never really really considered the room between your mouth and the the chin bar until my son crashed. He clipped a high speed double at WW in FL and the bike landed on him. Somehow the crossbar went between the his chin and the helmet resulting in a broken jaw and 4 teeth being knocked out. They saved 3 but he will need a bone graft and an implant for the missing tooth.

He was wearing a JUST1 Helmet and the helmet did it's job as far as protecting his head but the mouth is a different story. I'm sure he would have suffered injuries no matter what helmet he was wearing but there is a large gap in the chin area.

I will be out of pocket around $15k when all is said and done and we took the year off and sold the bike. Hopefully we can return sometime next year. When that time comes we will be wearing the new LS2 Subverter Helmet. They offer excellent protection. lightweight and venting second to none. Don't let the price point scare you because they manufacture several of the high end helmets on the market. They can sale the subverter cheaper because they own the factory and there's no middle man.

Titan1 wrote:

My brother just bought the LS2...I bought a Suomy...after trying on his LS2, I wish I'd of purchased that one. It looks great...is crazy light...super comfortable...and is way ventilated.

The mouth guard is very close to the face though...it would take some getting used to for me, I think.

I wished my son would have had one on with a the mouth piece closer. It's been a rough year!

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11/16/2018 2:17 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/16/2018 2:18 PM

DTR830 wrote:
I’m a medium VFX w & evo
Going off the size chart I bought a large alpinestar

According to the Alpinestars size chart I am the very top of Large. Should I go with an XL? Don’t want it to be too tight that’s it’s uncomfortable.

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11/16/2018 5:03 PM

SeaClassExpert wrote:

I've been a Moto-9 guy, but I'm waiting for Black Friday to try and snag a new SE4 WITHOUT the MIPS.

psg119 wrote:

Without the MIPS?

They only come with MIPS.. it was the big feature upgrade from SE3

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11/16/2018 7:34 PM

DTR830 wrote:

I have an evo, don’t do it. The liner system is garbage now ( they did warranty me a new one) I just bought a sm10 today so we’ll see how it compares

DTR830 wrote:
I’m a medium VFX w & evo
Going off the size chart I bought a large alpinestar

redrider_714 wrote:

According to the Alpinestars size chart I am the very top of Large. Should I go with an XL? Don’t want it to be too tight that’s it’s uncomfortable.

I’ll let you know the sizing when I receive mine

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11/17/2018 1:00 PM

What about the Bell Moto 9 with MIPS? How do they fit? Do the Carbon Flex fit any differently? Im gonna be running Spy Goggles also if anybody has any experience with how those fit in any of these helmets? Thanks.

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