New Dunlop?

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Edited Date/Time 2/4/2022 12:41am
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


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Jardo wrote:
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/02/531762/s1200_EDBBEF4E_04CA_4AA2_B36C_9D08F0168778.jpg[/img]
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on the MX33, with different rubber compounds or carcass. Supercross puts some unusual strain on tires, so some of these changes are to work with the rigors of SX. Some are to learn more about how the MX33 works with these changes, and then there's tires like Roczen's here that are currently a race only. A version of it could eventually make it to production or it may stay a race only item depending on feedback.

One thing that caught my eye is a few of the top 250 teams are grooving their tires again. At least more than I've seen in the past couple years. At the moment, I've seen PC, TLD, and HRC 250 making some modifications themselves.
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Jardo wrote:
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/02/531762/s1200_EDBBEF4E_04CA_4AA2_B36C_9D08F0168778.jpg[/img]
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


ML512 wrote:
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on...
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on the MX33, with different rubber compounds or carcass. Supercross puts some unusual strain on tires, so some of these changes are to work with the rigors of SX. Some are to learn more about how the MX33 works with these changes, and then there's tires like Roczen's here that are currently a race only. A version of it could eventually make it to production or it may stay a race only item depending on feedback.

One thing that caught my eye is a few of the top 250 teams are grooving their tires again. At least more than I've seen in the past couple years. At the moment, I've seen PC, TLD, and HRC 250 making some modifications themselves.
Wow, I was thinking about that scene in On Any Sunday when I started reading your post and then you said they are grooving their tires again. Do they still use a razor blade like the movie?
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I asked a friend of mine that tests for Dunlop and he said they are working on a MX34, but it's a ways out.
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Jardo wrote:
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/02/531762/s1200_EDBBEF4E_04CA_4AA2_B36C_9D08F0168778.jpg[/img]
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


ML512 wrote:
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on...
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on the MX33, with different rubber compounds or carcass. Supercross puts some unusual strain on tires, so some of these changes are to work with the rigors of SX. Some are to learn more about how the MX33 works with these changes, and then there's tires like Roczen's here that are currently a race only. A version of it could eventually make it to production or it may stay a race only item depending on feedback.

One thing that caught my eye is a few of the top 250 teams are grooving their tires again. At least more than I've seen in the past couple years. At the moment, I've seen PC, TLD, and HRC 250 making some modifications themselves.
Love the insight. Thank you sir
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On a different note, I tried the Pirelli MX32 rear on the 250f lately, and it is one hell of a tire for soft and semi hard dirt.
IMO it is on par if not a bit better than the Dunlop MX 33 rear.

Never used a Pirelli before this.
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I thought I also read something somewhere about ET3 running a Dunlop on the front I've never heard of- my memory says it was labeled "759"(I could off on that number). Any input on this ML512?
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Jardo wrote:
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/02/531762/s1200_EDBBEF4E_04CA_4AA2_B36C_9D08F0168778.jpg[/img]
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


ML512 wrote:
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on...
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on the MX33, with different rubber compounds or carcass. Supercross puts some unusual strain on tires, so some of these changes are to work with the rigors of SX. Some are to learn more about how the MX33 works with these changes, and then there's tires like Roczen's here that are currently a race only. A version of it could eventually make it to production or it may stay a race only item depending on feedback.

One thing that caught my eye is a few of the top 250 teams are grooving their tires again. At least more than I've seen in the past couple years. At the moment, I've seen PC, TLD, and HRC 250 making some modifications themselves.
The ClubMX guys are also doing it as seen in Troll Trains Vlog.
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Jardo wrote:
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/02/531762/s1200_EDBBEF4E_04CA_4AA2_B36C_9D08F0168778.jpg[/img]
I noticed this on Ken’s Instagram story. Said geomax on the sidewall.


ML512 wrote:
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on...
Most of the factory teams that are partnered with Dunlop are on some sort of proto or tire that differs from production. Most are based on the MX33, with different rubber compounds or carcass. Supercross puts some unusual strain on tires, so some of these changes are to work with the rigors of SX. Some are to learn more about how the MX33 works with these changes, and then there's tires like Roczen's here that are currently a race only. A version of it could eventually make it to production or it may stay a race only item depending on feedback.

One thing that caught my eye is a few of the top 250 teams are grooving their tires again. At least more than I've seen in the past couple years. At the moment, I've seen PC, TLD, and HRC 250 making some modifications themselves.
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Wow, I was thinking about that scene in On Any Sunday when I started reading your post and then you said they are grooving their tires...
Wow, I was thinking about that scene in On Any Sunday when I started reading your post and then you said they are grooving their tires again. Do they still use a razor blade like the movie?
They use a "hot blade" of some sort
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Brent wrote:
On a different note, I tried the Pirelli MX32 rear on the 250f lately, and it is one hell of a tire for soft and semi...
On a different note, I tried the Pirelli MX32 rear on the 250f lately, and it is one hell of a tire for soft and semi hard dirt.
IMO it is on par if not a bit better than the Dunlop MX 33 rear.

Never used a Pirelli before this.
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because all the rocks at Glen Helen...
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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
Brent wrote:
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because...
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because all the rocks at Glen Helen...
We Barona guys chuckle when you use the words, "rocks" and "Glen Helen" in the same sentence. Cool
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We Barona guys chuckle when you use the words, "rocks" and "Glen Helen" in the same sentence. Cool
I grew up in Poway so I rode Barona for a minute.

THat place is a rock garden for sure...
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chuckie108 wrote:
I thought I also read something somewhere about ET3 running a Dunlop on the front I've never heard of- my memory says it was labeled "759"(I...
I thought I also read something somewhere about ET3 running a Dunlop on the front I've never heard of- my memory says it was labeled "759"(I could off on that number). Any input on this ML512?
Maybe a 756
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mx313 wrote:
Maybe a 756
I was guessing they weren't going that far back in time.
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Anyone else here ever cut a fresh edge on the leading side of their rear tire knobbies? With some WD-40 and a fresh razor blade, you can knock out a rear in about 25 minutes. Did that many times when I was a broke ass kid!
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mx313 wrote:
Maybe a 756
chuckie108 wrote:
I was guessing they weren't going that far back in time.
i watched the video also and his mechanic said it was a 768… i started searching pretty quick and couldn’t find anything so it must be a factory spec tire of some sort.
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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
Brent wrote:
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because...
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because all the rocks at Glen Helen...
Once you get past that initial edge wearing off they last quite a while. It reminds me of an AT81 that way. The Pirellis wear about as fast as the Michelin or the MX3s. The 33 lasts a really long time. I bought a used bike with 33s on it with 20 hours and they look like a Pirelli or Starcross 5 at 5 hours.

If you get in really soft stuff including sand that Pirelli is better than anything except a dedicated sand tire.

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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
Brent wrote:
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because...
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because all the rocks at Glen Helen...
I had chunking issues with pirelli
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When I run SC5’s and I lose the og siping, I take a cut off wheel on my grinder and add a sipe to each lug, and flip the tire. Really wakes the tire back up for a couple last rides before they are toast
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I sipe all my worn rear tires with different cuts in the middle tread. But hell does it help? Don’t hurt.
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LouisianaMotocross wrote:
I love the pirelli, but it wears out so fast that I couldn't/didn't want to change tires that much.
Brent wrote:
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because...
True - I only have about an hour on the rear Pirelli and it is rounding off quicker than I expected, I thought it was because all the rocks at Glen Helen...
Falcon wrote:
We Barona guys chuckle when you use the words, "rocks" and "Glen Helen" in the same sentence. Cool
Barona is a rock factory.
When I raced there in the mid 70's for a minute, the riders would track walk and clear rocks from the track.
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mx313 wrote:
Maybe a 756
Man that would be awesome. The 756 was my favorite tire. It hooked up and was predictable. Not too impressed with Dunlop’s recent offerings. Tried them twice. They stayed on my bike for maybe 30-40 min each time. Then switched to Michelin’s.
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Talisker wrote:
Man that would be awesome. The 756 was my favorite tire. It hooked up and was predictable. Not too impressed with Dunlop’s recent offerings. Tried them...
Man that would be awesome. The 756 was my favorite tire. It hooked up and was predictable. Not too impressed with Dunlop’s recent offerings. Tried them twice. They stayed on my bike for maybe 30-40 min each time. Then switched to Michelin’s.
The 756 was a great rear but I hated the front. Had no side bite for me
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mx313 wrote:
Maybe a 756
Talisker wrote:
Man that would be awesome. The 756 was my favorite tire. It hooked up and was predictable. Not too impressed with Dunlop’s recent offerings. Tried them...
Man that would be awesome. The 756 was my favorite tire. It hooked up and was predictable. Not too impressed with Dunlop’s recent offerings. Tried them twice. They stayed on my bike for maybe 30-40 min each time. Then switched to Michelin’s.
I never much liked the 756. The front I had no confidence in and the rear wore quickly.

Which was disappointing cos I really liked the 752 back in the day.
I’m yet to spend any real time on the Pirelli MX32 MS & MH but the older MS32 was a great tyre.

Bridgestone have a new X30 coming I believe. I hope they’ve dropped some weight. If they have it’ll be great I’m sure.
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