It's Real! The New 2018 Suzuki RM-Z450

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mx836 2/3/2017 11:20am
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Moens_Andy wrote:
the 2018 model did you listen to the live stream?
No, you should see that sometime this fall.
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mx836 2/3/2017 11:22am
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set...
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set for a comparison.
That's one part. Some are more, some are less. They may be more in general, but they sure aren't double like what I was responding to. Don't think anybody can disagree with that.
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flatout111 2/3/2017 11:31am
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Really sweet looking bike from overhead. Love the blue tank, seat and like the black rims over the yellow honestly.

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Rotaholic 2/3/2017 11:48am
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I wonder which parts will swap over from the older gen. It will be cool to see what parts JGR make for this, they have already started making some pretty cool stuff for the current rmz
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bents 2/3/2017 12:06pm
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If this bike can weigh what the new Kawasaki weighs, then big win for Suzuki. Fix the suspension, make it lighter, and it will be a front runner. I love the blue highlights. Looks awesome. Oh the deals to be had on any new 15-17 model!
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JW381 2/3/2017 12:07pm
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I'm a fan.
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Motofinne 2/3/2017 12:11pm
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bents wrote:
If this bike can weigh what the new Kawasaki weighs, then big win for Suzuki. Fix the suspension, make it lighter, and it will be a...
If this bike can weigh what the new Kawasaki weighs, then big win for Suzuki. Fix the suspension, make it lighter, and it will be a front runner. I love the blue highlights. Looks awesome. Oh the deals to be had on any new 15-17 model!
Yep. This is just speculation but if any dealers still have 15 or 16 models in stock you could get them for really, really cheap. I mean around 4500-5000.
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sende 2/3/2017 12:12pm
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The more I look at it, the more I like it. I'm sold.
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kiwifan 2/3/2017 12:22pm
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Factory bike looks great...I will be more interested when the works Japanese bike gets rolled out, that is probably more likely to be more of a 2018 model...i.e. racing the preproduction unit like Honda did in 2016 for the 2017 model.

And we wont know HP, EC or not, chassis dimensions, suspension and weight until the 2018 bikes are produced/unveiled Smile

One thing I think that works bike would look even better with the yellow/blue...is gold rims.
Dirty Points 2/3/2017 12:23pm
2/3/2017 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2017 12:27pm
Externally, engine looks the same. Not that any 450 needs more power at this point, but there's been lollipop-dreams of GSXR-style centrifugal VVT (which, itself arrived with all new castings), or whatever. So it looks like nuthin' that highfalutin has trickled down to us dirt plebes quite yet.
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JW381 2/3/2017 12:27pm
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I like the rake angle. Reminds me of the 12 CRF a lot.
Dirty Points 2/3/2017 12:32pm
2/3/2017 12:32pm Edited Date/Time 2/3/2017 1:13pm
Just a Question: What if Zook just kept making the old 2008+ style model and charged 2-3K less than their competitors? Throw on some cheapo Chinese tires, steel bars, crap bodywork, maybe even a carb... whatever.

I mean, clearly Suzuki was not intentionally positioning themselves as a value option, but still enough people here at Vital (and elsewhere) have bought RMZs based solely on the idea that the raw platform itself is competitive while offering steep dealer discounts..

So, would the market be bigger, less, or the same for that model if Suzuki just focused on positioning themselves as a value-oriented race branding and took some of that pricing burden off the dealers?
coastlinecascot 2/3/2017 1:14pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set...
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set for a comparison.
mx836 wrote:
That's one part. Some are more, some are less. They may be more in general, but they sure aren't double like what I was responding to...
That's one part. Some are more, some are less. They may be more in general, but they sure aren't double like what I was responding to. Don't think anybody can disagree with that.
Ok price out their crank for a 450 and bearings. Valves, crank, pistons, gaskets and lower end bearings are what is mostly bought. Double the price easy over a yamaha. Fn camchain is 50 bucks!!

If you love suzukis then great. I just think the prices are rediculously priced.
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JW381 2/3/2017 1:31pm
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fox1nz wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173730/s1200_RM450s.jpg[/img]


Kinda unfair comparison. But good looking bike nonetheless
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fox1nz 2/3/2017 1:35pm
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This is better
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bayodome 2/3/2017 1:43pm
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Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.



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fox1nz 2/3/2017 1:45pm
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bayodome wrote:
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173675/s1200_suzuki_mxgp_presentationrmz450ws4.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/content/common/vr/yz450f/2017/3/zoomimages/17YFZ450F_blue_1500-01.jpg[/img]
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.



Bloody identical !!
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bayodome wrote:
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173675/s1200_suzuki_mxgp_presentationrmz450ws4.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/content/common/vr/yz450f/2017/3/zoomimages/17YFZ450F_blue_1500-01.jpg[/img]
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.



fox1nz wrote:
Bloody identical !!
Like I said earlier, its a YamaHonZuki
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fox1nz 2/3/2017 1:55pm
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bayodome wrote:
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173675/s1200_suzuki_mxgp_presentationrmz450ws4.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/content/common/vr/yz450f/2017/3/zoomimages/17YFZ450F_blue_1500-01.jpg[/img]
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.



fox1nz wrote:
Bloody identical !!
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Like I said earlier, its a YamaHonZuki
it's just typical Suzuki, very conservative and safe.
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JAFO92 2/3/2017 2:08pm
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bayodome wrote:
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173675/s1200_suzuki_mxgp_presentationrmz450ws4.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/content/common/vr/yz450f/2017/3/zoomimages/17YFZ450F_blue_1500-01.jpg[/img]
Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.



fox1nz wrote:
Bloody identical !!
Except one bike will turn and the other navigates like the Exxon Valdez
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tobz 2/3/2017 2:36pm
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Just had a quick skim thru the broadcast, was there any actual specs of the changed model? We're just looking at pictures? Doesn't "look" ground breaking. Just reshaped plastics?

And who said it looks like a Yamaha?

https://youtu.be/JMw1GmJzF6A
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this is not a case of a Japanese company copying a Japanese company.

It is the same old thing, The Japanese simply copy whoever does it the best, then they attempt to improve the quality.

In this case, the design was done in Italy many years ago, someone care to remind me what bike (s) I am referring to.....
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HenryA 2/3/2017 2:47pm
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Ooop, seems like they forgot to install the new engine. Huh
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seth505 2/3/2017 2:52pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set...
Yamaha parts are really well priced and comes in kits for ease and price. Suzuki and kawasakis are high. Look at any year oem valve set for a comparison.
mx836 wrote:
That's one part. Some are more, some are less. They may be more in general, but they sure aren't double like what I was responding to...
That's one part. Some are more, some are less. They may be more in general, but they sure aren't double like what I was responding to. Don't think anybody can disagree with that.
Don't go there, I compared actual part costs and showed that KTM and Suzuki weren't the most expensive across the board and got called a fan boy in another thread.
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#76 2/3/2017 2:52pm
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Is there even a slight possibility for e-start does anyone think?....
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mxman 2/3/2017 2:54pm
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Not sure the excitement. Doesn't look any different to me other than new graphics.

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