It's Real! The New 2018 Suzuki RM-Z450

smashingpumpkins167 wrote:

I want to feel the handling for one of these suzuki dream machines. I've always ridden yamahas tanks that can't stay in a ruts to save...

I want to feel the handling for one of these suzuki dream machines. I've always ridden yamahas tanks that can't stay in a ruts to save their life, but I think ill try a 15 rmz. This new bike should help drop the price.

Bruce372 wrote:

If you are close to nor cal, I can help you live the dream. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173836/s1200_20170107_114248.jpg[/img]

If you are close to nor cal, I can help you live the dream.

JW381 wrote:

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're...

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're just going off looks, it looks great. It looks like a stylish dirtbike drawing on many other popular aesthetics. Your desire for new and shiny is what is killing this sport at the grassroots level. I see a lot of guys at the track on these "new and shiny" bikes that putt around in 2nd gear, all the while some kid on a 10 year old 2 stroke rips everyone to shreds. Or, worse yet, someone on an RMZ450!

JW381 wrote:

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're...

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're just going off looks, it looks great. It looks like a stylish dirtbike drawing on many other popular aesthetics. Your desire for new and shiny is what is killing this sport at the grassroots level. I see a lot of guys at the track on these "new and shiny" bikes that putt around in 2nd gear, all the while some kid on a 10 year old 2 stroke rips everyone to shreds. Or, worse yet, someone on an RMZ450!

kiwifan wrote:

so basically you only want a forum where everyone only says things you like?

Moens_Andy wrote:

I dont know about you guys but i'm sold. It's by far the best looking bike out there imo.

Motofinne wrote:

I still think that the 2017 Husqvarna looks a tiny, tiny bit better(and it's bit unfair to compare since the RMZ is a factory bike) but...

I still think that the 2017 Husqvarna looks a tiny, tiny bit better(and it's bit unfair to compare since the RMZ is a factory bike) but other than that i agree.

Husqvarna and the 18 RMZ are the best looking bikes at the moment in my opinion.

Rowlands wrote:

Remeber this is the factory model so compare to factory bikes. Honda wins for me but I do really like this new Suzuki, be interesting to...

Remeber this is the factory model so compare to factory bikes.

Honda wins for me but I do really like this new Suzuki, be interesting to see the stocker.

jonesaustin wrote:

I think the changes, at least aesthetically (which should follow how radical changes are to the chassis) are very, very minimal. Like, very minimal. It's basically...

I think the changes, at least aesthetically (which should follow how radical changes are to the chassis) are very, very minimal. Like, very minimal. It's basically the same bike in look, because they used color schemes to make it appear to have more of a drastic plastic change (again, where the plastics mount to the bike is driven by the chassis) so kinda cheating. The shroud is basically the same as before, and though I get heat for my emphasis on shroud design, the shroud tells you a LOT about how "different" the bike is. This RM is a microwaved version of what we've seen the last 10 years imo. Either the funds aren't there or the will isnt, or the designers aren't in place, but looks like, aside from Honda who stepped it up, the ball of evolution is firmly in the court of KTM and Husqvarna.

Bring back the works bikes, and rehire 70 year old HRC engineers to explain what radical means to the younger team. Break the mold, try wild ideas, push the envelope. The 1990 KX line was a great example of that kind of leap. Maybe those days are behind us now, as changes seem painfully incremental.

aaryn #234 wrote:

Or there is no need to go all out with some radical design because the platform they have works, why change something drastically for the sake...

Or there is no need to go all out with some radical design because the platform they have works, why change something drastically for the sake of change?

Maybe MX / SX bike have reached their potential for now withough going into new age materials that would force the cost of a bike up so much they we could not afford to ride them.

I just don't understand what some people are asking for, it is a dirt bike, there is only so many changes you can make to it.

It has two wheels, a frame, a motor and suspension.

The old platform just wont he American outdoor championship, it is more than capable so why go fucking with it from top to bottom.

Maybe the should hit up M2R and see if they have any of the old fins from the top of their helmets laying around, maybe Suzuki could pop them on the rear fender to keep people happy and give them the change they are looking for!

jonesaustin wrote:

I think the changes, at least aesthetically (which should follow how radical changes are to the chassis) are very, very minimal. Like, very minimal. It's basically...

I think the changes, at least aesthetically (which should follow how radical changes are to the chassis) are very, very minimal. Like, very minimal. It's basically the same bike in look, because they used color schemes to make it appear to have more of a drastic plastic change (again, where the plastics mount to the bike is driven by the chassis) so kinda cheating. The shroud is basically the same as before, and though I get heat for my emphasis on shroud design, the shroud tells you a LOT about how "different" the bike is. This RM is a microwaved version of what we've seen the last 10 years imo. Either the funds aren't there or the will isnt, or the designers aren't in place, but looks like, aside from Honda who stepped it up, the ball of evolution is firmly in the court of KTM and Husqvarna.

Bring back the works bikes, and rehire 70 year old HRC engineers to explain what radical means to the younger team. Break the mold, try wild ideas, push the envelope. The 1990 KX line was a great example of that kind of leap. Maybe those days are behind us now, as changes seem painfully incremental.

aaryn #234 wrote:

Or there is no need to go all out with some radical design because the platform they have works, why change something drastically for the sake...

Or there is no need to go all out with some radical design because the platform they have works, why change something drastically for the sake of change?

Maybe MX / SX bike have reached their potential for now withough going into new age materials that would force the cost of a bike up so much they we could not afford to ride them.

I just don't understand what some people are asking for, it is a dirt bike, there is only so many changes you can make to it.

It has two wheels, a frame, a motor and suspension.

The old platform just wont he American outdoor championship, it is more than capable so why go fucking with it from top to bottom.

Maybe the should hit up M2R and see if they have any of the old fins from the top of their helmets laying around, maybe Suzuki could pop them on the rear fender to keep people happy and give them the change they are looking for!

brightlights wrote:

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in...

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in 3rd gear when I put it there. Exceed 5k rpm in 2nd and shift to 3rd, and it will stay in 3rd 4 out 6 times. More success if you shift it immediately before gettting to the high revs, but shifting that quick means your not really even fully out of the rut/square edges yet usually. The 2 out of 6 times it doesn't stay in 3rd are the reason the bike I bought for a return to agressive moto is best kept in the woods. Im trying to find a fix for this if anyone is in the know thanks in advance. Weight of bike, no big deal, air fork, well I'll work with it just like the harsh shock. Handles pretty good, but not sinking money into this suspension until I know it will stay in 3rd gear. Anyone in the know?

brightlights wrote:

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in...

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in 3rd gear when I put it there. Exceed 5k rpm in 2nd and shift to 3rd, and it will stay in 3rd 4 out 6 times. More success if you shift it immediately before gettting to the high revs, but shifting that quick means your not really even fully out of the rut/square edges yet usually. The 2 out of 6 times it doesn't stay in 3rd are the reason the bike I bought for a return to agressive moto is best kept in the woods. Im trying to find a fix for this if anyone is in the know thanks in advance. Weight of bike, no big deal, air fork, well I'll work with it just like the harsh shock. Handles pretty good, but not sinking money into this suspension until I know it will stay in 3rd gear. Anyone in the know?

mmcmx wrote:

Add a tooth, turn in 3rd.

brightlights wrote:

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in...

The only change I am looking for as a 16' Suzuki RMZ450 owner with less tham 4 hours on it is for it to stay in 3rd gear when I put it there. Exceed 5k rpm in 2nd and shift to 3rd, and it will stay in 3rd 4 out 6 times. More success if you shift it immediately before gettting to the high revs, but shifting that quick means your not really even fully out of the rut/square edges yet usually. The 2 out of 6 times it doesn't stay in 3rd are the reason the bike I bought for a return to agressive moto is best kept in the woods. Im trying to find a fix for this if anyone is in the know thanks in advance. Weight of bike, no big deal, air fork, well I'll work with it just like the harsh shock. Handles pretty good, but not sinking money into this suspension until I know it will stay in 3rd gear. Anyone in the know?

bayodome wrote:

Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/02/03/173675/s1200_suzuki_mxgp_presentationrmz450ws4.jpg[/img] [img]https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/content/common/vr/yz450f/2017/3/zoomimages/17YFZ450F_blue_1500-01.jpg[/img]

Yep... looks a lot like the Yamaha, which isn't a bad thing.

JW381 wrote:

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're...

I hate this thread. You guys are impossible. You literally know nothing about the bike other than how it looks, and you're condemning it. If we're just going off looks, it looks great. It looks like a stylish dirtbike drawing on many other popular aesthetics. Your desire for new and shiny is what is killing this sport at the grassroots level. I see a lot of guys at the track on these "new and shiny" bikes that putt around in 2nd gear, all the while some kid on a 10 year old 2 stroke rips everyone to shreds. Or, worse yet, someone on an RMZ450!

kiwifan wrote:

so basically you only want a forum where everyone only says things you like?

RPM68 wrote:

Didn't Grant Langston switch to the 08 YZ at Southwick in 07? Villopoto the 12 model at Unadilla in 11?

ML512 wrote:

For the US the bikes have to be homologated, which in those two cases there were enough bikes in the country that it was legal. For...

For the US the bikes have to be homologated, which in those two cases there were enough bikes in the country that it was legal. For the GPs there is no such rule, meaning they can race them all season long, regardless of production numbers.

reded wrote:

Really big guy or really small bike?

reded wrote:

Really big guy or really small bike?

brightlights wrote:

I think Ill add 6 teeth run it in 5th and sell the rest of the gears on ebay.