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4/23/2018 4:09 AM

Hey everyone,

I need some bike suggestions. I have a 2017 KTM 250sx (2 stroke). While I absolutely love the bike, I'm beginning to think it is the wrong bike for me. I'm not a "always on the pipe" type of rider, which you really need to be with a 2 stroke. Being as it is still basically new with only 14 hours on it, I'm wondering if I should trade it for a 250 4-stroke? If I did this, I would be looking at either the Kawasaki or Yamaha. I want a bike where the power comes on smoother, so I think I should be focusing more on the Yamaha. Am I correct on this?

Thoughts on this would be great. Thanks!

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4/23/2018 4:28 AM

What about KTM 300XC/Husqvarna TX300? Smooth power with lots of torque

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4/23/2018 4:57 AM

What kind of riding do you do?

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4/23/2018 6:09 AM

Kawis are probably the smoothest 4 strokes out there. They dont make the highest peak numbers but they hold a really smooth line. Ive got a 250 and 450 and they both are smooth as hell. Cant go wrong with either brand.

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4/23/2018 6:12 AM

JMX82 wrote:

What about KTM 300XC/Husqvarna TX300? Smooth power with lots of torque

THIS!

If you are not on the pipe on a 250 2T you will not be on the pipe on a 250F. You need to rev the 250F to make it go. The 300 KTMs and Huskys are awesome. And no, they are not slow on a mx track.

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4/23/2018 6:18 AM

JMX82 wrote:

What about KTM 300XC/Husqvarna TX300? Smooth power with lots of torque

This... the 300 kit and a flywheel weight will make it a different animal.. far more civilised .

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4/23/2018 6:19 AM

A 250F is not nearly as "pipey" as a 250 2 stroke. Yes a 250F makes most of its power up high but it makes very good power down low too compared to a 2 stroke.

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4/23/2018 7:08 AM

JMX82 wrote:

What about KTM 300XC/Husqvarna TX300? Smooth power with lots of torque

Exactly. I have an 18 TX300 and it is insanely easy to ride just cruising with crazy torque for a 2 stroke. It's the jack of all trades bike for sure, moto, trails, putting around or hauling ass in the desert.

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Throwbackmxguy

4/23/2018 7:31 AM

Have you adjusted the power valve? Adjusting it has made the bike way more rideable for me. If not, turn it all the way out and then back in 1 1/4 turns to start with. I think mine is somewhere around 1 1/2 in currently.

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2018 KTM 250sx
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4/23/2018 8:12 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/23/2018 8:19 AM

AJ565 wrote:

Have you adjusted the power valve? Adjusting it has made the bike way more rideable for me. If not, turn it all the way out and then back in 1 1/4 turns to start with. I think mine is somewhere around 1 1/2 in currently.

This. The power valve makes a huge difference how your bike behaves..

Edit: funny I just opened Facebook and saw your post on Breezewood

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

4/23/2018 6:15 PM

Have you considered rescuing a fine cat from your local shelter?

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4/23/2018 6:29 PM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Have you considered rescuing a fine cat from your local shelter?

That’s jus’ wrong, Mister!
(But CLASSIC!)

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

4/23/2018 7:36 PM

The Yamaha 250F is the hardest hitting 250F on the market.

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Race Bike: 2018 KTM 350SXF

Other Bikes: 1985 CR80R, 1990 CR250R, 1998 PW80, Specialized Fuse Comp 29.

Sold: 2016 YZ250F, 2012 CRF250R

4/23/2018 8:31 PM

So...I had the 17 TC 250 for a few months (sister of the SX). I raced 450s since 06, then went to a YZ 125 for '17 just for something different. I also race vintage on a CR 500, and have had a number of 250 2Ts, so it's not like I don't know what two strokes are about. I loved the 125 two stroke and thought that TC 250 would be more of the same. It was not. The TC 250 powerband is inexcusably thin for a 250. Weak bottom, hard hit, abrupt sign off. I messed with the power valve, the gearing, even put an FMF pipe on it. BTW -- adjusting the powervalve really only pushes the hit further back, which makes for a strange peak in the acceleration curve. Almost like it has two hits. I did not find adjusting the powervalve to be helpful at all. It ran most predictably for me at 1.5 turns in from full out.
In the end, those things helped but it just was not a good bike for me to do consistent laps on (I ride +30B and +40cool. The power was so thin it was always sketchy. After four hours of riding time I cut my losses, traded it in for a 17 YZ 250F and I couldn't be happier. It is a great lap time motor, wide power spread from literally idle to redline, and in my opinion pretty mellow so that it doesn't ever surprise me.

For some reason, I just don't gel with 250 two strokes. They have too much power to be ridden aggressively like a 125 (at least at my skill level), and this particular model doesn't have the torque to be ridden lower in the RPMs like a 450F or 500 2T.

I've put 11 hours on the YZ 250F and the only issue I've had is the forks were sprung way to stiff for my weight and speed on the terrain that I ride. This made it harsh and ruined the turning. I went from the stock .47 to a .44 front spring and I am completely sold on this bike now. It isn't as exciting to ride as the 250 2T, but it is a hell of a lot better for doing consistent laps and motos.

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4/23/2018 8:34 PM

You don’t have to be on the gas that hard for my yamaha 250f to get going but, it’s not stock either, it’s full mod

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4/23/2018 9:52 PM

Many people have been recommending the KTM 350 for me recently. Might be easier to ride than the 250SX and 250SXF

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4/24/2018 5:42 AM

I went from a 14 YZ250F to a 17 FX350. I loved my yz but this Husky just raised the bar. WAY better in the woods and maybe even a tick better on a track.

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4/24/2018 6:03 AM

300 kit, retune your powervalve spring and a FWW will make it much more tractable. Cheaper than buying a completely new bike.

If you're going 250F route, then Yamaha has the best "ride it down low" characteristic. Bike will have e-start in 19, so I'd wait for them to come out before thinking of buying one.

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4/24/2018 7:09 AM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Have you considered rescuing a fine cat from your local shelter?

laughing
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4/24/2018 7:54 AM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Have you considered rescuing a fine cat from your local shelter?

This is purfect.

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2018 CRF250R

4/24/2018 11:39 AM

Alta.

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4/24/2018 12:29 PM

Try a 350

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4/24/2018 12:37 PM

mnoble0902 wrote:

Hey everyone,

I need some bike suggestions. I have a 2017 KTM 250sx (2 stroke). While I absolutely love the bike, I'm beginning to think it is the wrong bike for me. I'm not a "always on the pipe" type of rider, which you really need to be with a 2 stroke. Being as it is still basically new with only 14 hours on it, I'm wondering if I should trade it for a 250 4-stroke? If I did this, I would be looking at either the Kawasaki or Yamaha. I want a bike where the power comes on smoother, so I think I should be focusing more on the Yamaha. Am I correct on this?

Thoughts on this would be great. Thanks!

I noticed you're not too far from me. If you want to try out a 250F or 450F let me know and you are more than welcome to take a couple laps on mine. I will be at Tomahawk Friday afternoon. Prcatice Friday, Masters race on Saturday, MDRA race on Sunday.

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4/24/2018 9:10 PM

You can most likely get what you need out of what you have now.

1. Try adjusting the powervalve according to your manual. Super easy to do it right at the track.

2. If that still doesn’t get you where you want to be you can get a flywheel weight pretty darn cheap and then try the different PV settings to fine tune the hit where you want it.

3. If that still doesnt get you where you want to be... a 300 kit with a flywheel weight will be smooth as butter. You can lug it, run the wheels off it wide open and anything in between.

Best case scenario you’ll get exactly what you’re looking for without spending a crap load of money and relative low hassle.

Worst case you’ll just go to plan B to buy a 4 Stroke and be able to sell the extra parts to recover a good bit of those costs back.

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4/24/2018 9:28 PM

Harry Backmon wrote:

Have you considered rescuing a fine cat from your local shelter?

Haha....fuggin' Harry!

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

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4/24/2018 9:33 PM

mnoble0902 wrote:

Hey everyone,

I need some bike suggestions. I have a 2017 KTM 250sx (2 stroke). While I absolutely love the bike, I'm beginning to think it is the wrong bike for me. I'm not a "always on the pipe" type of rider, which you really need to be with a 2 stroke. Being as it is still basically new with only 14 hours on it, I'm wondering if I should trade it for a 250 4-stroke? If I did this, I would be looking at either the Kawasaki or Yamaha. I want a bike where the power comes on smoother, so I think I should be focusing more on the Yamaha. Am I correct on this?

Thoughts on this would be great. Thanks!

JBlain619 wrote:

I noticed you're not too far from me. If you want to try out a 250F or 450F let me know and you are more than welcome to take a couple laps on mine. I will be at Tomahawk Friday afternoon. Prcatice Friday, Masters race on Saturday, MDRA race on Sunday.

Great offer from a great dude! If the OP does in fact do this , it could save him a bunch of money on being able to try something out first.

From what the OP stated , it seems like he would really dig a 250F. Not everyone likes the 2 stroke power , and the way deliver it. I myself love it , but if I was going to pick up a 4 stroke , it would most definitely be a 250F.

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And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja