Need Mor Bikes! (How to voice your opposition to a 100% tariff on motorcycles imported from the EU)

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You've probably heard about the potential 100 percent tariffs on motorcycles imported from the European Union with an engine size between 51cc and 500cc. At the center of that is a E.U. - U.S. beef hormone trade dispute. Obviously this would not only affect the cost of bikes here, but it would also very negatively affect dealers, and brands that make aftermarket components. Affected brands include: Aprilla, Beta, BMW, Ducati, Fantic, Gas Gas, Husqvarna, KTM, Montesa, Piaggio, Scorpa, Sherco, TM, and Vespa.

We're not sure how putting a tariff on motorcycles relates to beef, and apparently the ladies in the video below also don't understand it.

https://youtu.be/CkSI1hT4dZU

To learn more? Check here.
http://bit.ly/NoBikesforBeef

If you want a quick and easy way to send a letter to the United States Trade Representative, click the link below.
https://cqrcengage.com/amacycle/app/write-a-letter?3&engagementId=284993
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GuyB 2/7/2017 10:37am
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Awesome. Same here.
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Camp332 2/7/2017 10:48am
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I'll write a letter Bro.

Great commercial right here.

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Sent.
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rancor19 2/7/2017 12:27pm
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If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
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kijen 2/7/2017 12:51pm
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Are the euro mfgs writing to their trade reps too?
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
That would be pretty neat now wouldn't it?
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
hvaughn88 wrote:
That would be pretty neat now wouldn't it?
Which is what we need...in regards to a lot of industry. I'm all for forcing them to bring manufacturing back to the US...however, in the meantime I will send a letter too...
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I did my part a while back and received a follow up from the AMA. This is outrageous.
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
hvaughn88 wrote:
That would be pretty neat now wouldn't it?
huck wrote:
Which is what we need...in regards to a lot of industry. I'm all for forcing them to bring manufacturing back to the US...however, in the meantime...
Which is what we need...in regards to a lot of industry. I'm all for forcing them to bring manufacturing back to the US...however, in the meantime I will send a letter too...
yessir!
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FreshTopEnd 2/7/2017 12:57pm
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Its related to beef in that motorcycles and motorcyclists as a constituency are a cheap bargaining chip for politicians, friendly party or not. They don't care what promises they may make or how friendly they try to appear to OHV use; we can be sold out without consequences when they are playing give and take at that level.
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Bolt-On 2/7/2017 1:12pm
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
hvaughn88 wrote:
That would be pretty neat now wouldn't it?
huck wrote:
Which is what we need...in regards to a lot of industry. I'm all for forcing them to bring manufacturing back to the US...however, in the meantime...
Which is what we need...in regards to a lot of industry. I'm all for forcing them to bring manufacturing back to the US...however, in the meantime I will send a letter too...
It would definitely be pretty cool and be a boost for the US, but what about the others like Sherco, GasGas, Beta, etc? I don't believe they would be big enough to afford something like that and they're really starting to gain more traction in the US off-road scene. Each of those brands have increased their racing efforts significantly this year. A person who doesn't follow the off-road world would be blown away at how many Shercos were at last weekend's National Enduro.
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Letter sent.
Cool

Edit: I predict my wife, kids, and parents will send one too.
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GuyB 2/7/2017 2:46pm
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The Office of the United States Trade Representative scheduled a public hearing on its proposal to include 100 percent tariffs on motorcycles imported from the European Union in the E.U. - U.S. beef hormone trade dispute. The proposed tariff would apply to motorcycles with an engine size between 51cc and 500cc.

The public hearing begins at 9:30 a.m. Wednesday, Feb. 15 in Rooms 1 and 2, 1724 F Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. AMA President and CEO Rob Dingman will testify, opposing the "Bikes for Beef" tax.

This is a public hearing and the motorcycle industry strongly urges riders and others to attend. If you attend, please bring a government-issued identification. You should arrive early to allow enough time to pass through security.
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harescrambled 2/7/2017 3:21pm
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Steve...thanks for posting this. I've shared it on FB, sent letters to my senators and representatives, etc.. Unfortunately, I think my political views might just render my opinion irrelevant in the government's eyes. The reason I say this is that the US has a problem with the fact that in the EU (and most of its member nations had this prior to the existence of the EU) it is not permitted to add hormones to beef cattle, among other things. The EU and its member nations have rather strict rules regarding hormones and antibiotics in their foods. Also, they have a lot of restrictions regarding genetically modified organisms. My question in all of the letters I sent is this: "Who are we to tell people in other countries what they should and should not eat?"
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bvm111 2/7/2017 3:52pm
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After 25 years of service and counting in the US Army i will continue to support the USA not the EU. The main issue is the US Beef not being allowed into europe and I am more concerned about supporrting the US farmer and beef industry than the euro motorcycle industry. Maybe the KTM, DUC, and BMW should lobby the EU trade commission or what ever they are called and have the beef ban lifted.

I am now going to Mc Donalds and having a Grand Big Mac in support of US Beef!
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Bolt-On wrote:
It would definitely be pretty cool and be a boost for the US, but what about the others like Sherco, GasGas, Beta, etc? I don't believe...
It would definitely be pretty cool and be a boost for the US, but what about the others like Sherco, GasGas, Beta, etc? I don't believe they would be big enough to afford something like that and they're really starting to gain more traction in the US off-road scene. Each of those brands have increased their racing efforts significantly this year. A person who doesn't follow the off-road world would be blown away at how many Shercos were at last weekend's National Enduro.
Beta - 27
Gas Gas - 13
Honda - 31
Husaberg - 2
Husqvarna - 59
Kawasaki - 13
KTM - 432
Sherco - 16
Suzuki - 13
TM - 6
Yamaha - 112

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SlackBoy 2/7/2017 5:27pm
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Y'all could just produce beef without massive amounts of hormones and other crap.....just saying..
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SlackBoy wrote:
Y'all could just produce beef without massive amounts of hormones and other crap.....just saying..
This....Right? So simple.... and keep our soldiers outta stupid $$ wars too... and hire teachers instead of cops... Etcetera... Etcetera.... If I see another Trump or US Army Vet sticker on a fuck'n Hyundai I'm gonna shit on it...
Letters sent.... can only hope they matter....
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SlackBoy wrote:
Y'all could just produce beef without massive amounts of hormones and other crap.....just saying..
That would make too much sense.......we need to bully people I guess..Wink
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SlackBoy wrote:
Y'all could just produce beef without massive amounts of hormones and other crap.....just saying..
I agree with this.
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GuyB 2/7/2017 7:38pm
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bvm111 wrote:
After 25 years of service and counting in the US Army i will continue to support the USA not the EU. The main issue is the...
After 25 years of service and counting in the US Army i will continue to support the USA not the EU. The main issue is the US Beef not being allowed into europe and I am more concerned about supporrting the US farmer and beef industry than the euro motorcycle industry. Maybe the KTM, DUC, and BMW should lobby the EU trade commission or what ever they are called and have the beef ban lifted.

I am now going to Mc Donalds and having a Grand Big Mac in support of US Beef!
Is that where McDonald's beef comes from? I'm not so sure.
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bvm111 wrote:
After 25 years of service and counting in the US Army i will continue to support the USA not the EU. The main issue is the...
After 25 years of service and counting in the US Army i will continue to support the USA not the EU. The main issue is the US Beef not being allowed into europe and I am more concerned about supporrting the US farmer and beef industry than the euro motorcycle industry. Maybe the KTM, DUC, and BMW should lobby the EU trade commission or what ever they are called and have the beef ban lifted.

I am now going to Mc Donalds and having a Grand Big Mac in support of US Beef!
GuyB wrote:
Is that where McDonald's beef comes from? I'm not so sure.
Right from their website:



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kzizok 2/7/2017 7:48pm
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The above mentions of moving manufacturing to the US got me thinking. What is the definition of an imported bike?

Since starting up manufacturing plants that produce whole units woud be very costly, is there a loop hole that they could get around? Like producing just frames (or something else) in the USA and importing the rest?
Underground 2/7/2017 7:54pm
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
hvaughn88 wrote:
That would be pretty neat now wouldn't it?
And they could employ all those cheap Mexican workers to keep costs down. Oh wait ........
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I want to send a letter , but not sure what to say. Will this work?

" Hey!....If you mark up my bike price , we will nuke your ass! "

Sincerely Jeffro ( who is trying to buy a Husky 250 )

Message sent btw.
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Bearuno 2/7/2017 8:28pm
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rancor19 wrote:
If all else fails, could KTM and Husky build assembly plants here to skirt this?
They'd be more likely to ship parts to Bajaj (I think now the 'single' majority shares holder in KTM, and where they get a lot of their models made / put together now), in India, and do a CKD (complete knock down) or PKD (partial KD) if imports from India were not affected.

This has been going on for quite a few years - the US trying to subvert Sovereign Nations / EU Food production standards through bullying, and that being through unrelated products, at times. Though, every trading 'partner' will always try 'things' - it's not just the US - I'm not slagging you guys.

Hell, do like many enterprising Australian primary producers do - when you see an opportunity that could open up to you by following that markets food standards, you meet them and get accredited for them.
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Bearuno 2/7/2017 8:33pm
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jeffro503 wrote:
I want to send a letter , but not sure what to say. Will this work? " Hey!....If you mark up my bike price , we...
I want to send a letter , but not sure what to say. Will this work?

" Hey!....If you mark up my bike price , we will nuke your ass! "

Sincerely Jeffro ( who is trying to buy a Husky 250 )

Message sent btw.
So, Jeffro; you are going to Nuke Trump / the board or whatever it is, that is threatening to raise import taxes? Because it's your near end of the chain, that would pocket that increase.
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jeffro503 wrote:
I want to send a letter , but not sure what to say. Will this work? " Hey!....If you mark up my bike price , we...
I want to send a letter , but not sure what to say. Will this work?

" Hey!....If you mark up my bike price , we will nuke your ass! "

Sincerely Jeffro ( who is trying to buy a Husky 250 )

Message sent btw.
Bearuno wrote:
So, Jeffro; you are going to Nuke Trump / the board or whatever it is, that is threatening to raise import taxes? Because it's your near...
So, Jeffro; you are going to Nuke Trump / the board or whatever it is, that is threatening to raise import taxes? Because it's your near end of the chain, that would pocket that increase.
Well , they are on the opposite side of the country , so yes , of course I would. Smile

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